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Black Monday for Head Coaches

Wish I still had photoshop......I'd do a pic of Kelly on the sideline holding up one of his stupid signs. Instead of a # it would be his resume'.....or a "will (fill in the blank) for food."
 
Most coaching contracts are guaranteed so the team has to pay after they are fired, unless they get another coaching job. Then the ex-team is off the hook in most cases. This is why so many coaches take a year off and do TV after they get fired. It allows them to collect 2 paychecks, from the old team and from TV.

This is why the Bengals will never fire Marvin. As long as he is under contract they will never fire him. When Marvin gets a three year extension he will be there for three years and not a day less.
 
Kelly is the one who traded for Bradford. So that's on him

Absolutely everything wrong in Philly this year comes down to Kelly. He took it upon himself to make a lot of roster moves, getting rid of good players, replacing them with less. He didn't slowly make changes here and there, he made big changes all in one year. It didn't work.
 
Pettine was garbage. All that drama with Manziel and the party pictures.

Manziel is a drunk. He's useless. Pettine was the only guy in the entire organization that was trying to get through that thick skull to that tiny booze-addled brain. He tried to discipline a child throwing a temper tantrum and the Browns fired him for it. as a "Thank you", Manziel failed to show up for his treatments and is pretty much attempting to manipulate the Browns into trying to trade him.

I'd suspend him without pay. And I'd find every conceivable way I could to fine him.
 
Thanks to Coughlin for being to lone coach to beat the *Pats in a Super Bowl. Appreciate that.
 
Giving Kelly full control of the roster is what sealed his fate. I don't buy into the Shady McCoy line that Kelly was a bigot or motivated by racism, but it is quite obvious that Kelly did want players whom he could fully control. He honestly believed that the NFL was like college, that you can just drop players and replace them with any others, even if their style does not fit with your system. You had a back in McCoy who was a much better fit for your system and you trade him, then go out and drop huge coin on DeMarco Murray who, as a straight-ahead, between-the-tackles runner, was not at all suited for the Kelly offense. You then sign Sam Bradford, who's about as mobile as a bronze statue, to run an offense that requires a mobile QB. These moves were pure hubris by Kelly and confirmed the fact that he should not be in charge of player personnel decisions.

I had also seen reports out of Philly that Lurie had met with Kelly and floated the idea of keeping Kelly as the coach while stripping him of any player personnel decisions, and Kelly balked at the idea. In many ways, he may have forced Lurie's hand and left him no option.

I agree with those who say the Kelly is probably the epitome of the college coach, and he should resign himself to that fact. You can get away with the "players are cogs" mentality in college, where you have each player for three or four years, but not so much in the pros.
 
Tom Coughlin given the boot. Just seen on ESPN feed. No link yet

I would jump at the opportunity for him to coach the Steelers.


He would fit what this team needs to a tee.
 
I couldn't stand Coughlin when he was in Jacksonville, but he ended up being one of my favorites once he landed in New York. Best of luck to him!
 
I would jump at the opportunity for him to coach the Steelers.


He would fit what this team needs to a tee.

You must not have watched many Giants games this year.. him clock management might be worse than Tomlins.
 
You must not have watched many Giants games this year.. him clock management might be worse than Tomlins.

I saw..... both coaches have that weakness...

but his ability to get the most out of his players

he knows how to beat the Pats

and his is strict on his players

exactly what is needed
 
Giving Kelly full control of the roster is what sealed his fate. I don't buy into the Shady McCoy line that Kelly was a bigot or motivated by racism, but it is quite obvious that Kelly did want players whom he could fully control. He honestly believed that the NFL was like college, that you can just drop players and replace them with any others, even if their style does not fit with your system. You had a back in McCoy who was a much better fit for your system and you trade him, then go out and drop huge coin on DeMarco Murray who, as a straight-ahead, between-the-tackles runner, was not at all suited for the Kelly offense. You then sign Sam Bradford, who's about as mobile as a bronze statue, to run an offense that requires a mobile QB. These moves were pure hubris by Kelly and confirmed the fact that he should not be in charge of player personnel decisions.

I had also seen reports out of Philly that Lurie had met with Kelly and floated the idea of keeping Kelly as the coach while stripping him of any player personnel decisions, and Kelly balked at the idea. In many ways, he may have forced Lurie's hand and left him no option.

I agree with those who say the Kelly is probably the epitome of the college coach, and he should resign himself to that fact. You can get away with the "players are cogs" mentality in college, where you have each player for three or four years, but not so much in the pros.

yep I agree... I thought all of the comments made by his explayers were never about him being racist, but about him not treating men like men... His was a spurrieresque reign in many ways... he isn't an NFL guy ... he ought to go back to little college ball where teams aren't as deep and experienced and gimmick offenses are useful...
 
Coughlin has long been on my "******** who id hate my team for if they hired him" list... and that is a very very small list... not as devious or unscrupulous as Belicheck, but not that far off... still remember him getting karma-smacked by having Jacksonville grow out their grass to slow down barry sanders, only to have Brunell catch his foot in the long grass and trip and rip his knee to shreds... also, despite the 2 superbowl wins, I though most of his teams throughout the years underperformed to their talent and that he burned too many bridges with his assholliness....
 
I have no idea why these big college coaches ever want to go NFL in the first place. You have almost total control over the program, you still make a shitload of money, if you have a self perpetuating winning program (which is the only way you are considered for an NFL job) you basically are guaranteed to win at a 80% or better click. And you can have wayyyyyy more of a life.
 
I have no idea why these big college coaches ever want to go NFL in the first place. You have almost total control over the program, you still make a shitload of money, if you have a self perpetuating winning program (which is the only way you are considered for an NFL job) you basically are guaranteed to win at a 80% or better click. And you can have wayyyyyy more of a life.

The challenge and and a guarantee to go back to college. Though you do have the chance of never returning to an elite program, I could see the allure. But if I'm a guy like David Shaw, there is no way that I leave Stanford, where I'm set for life, for an NFL job. I'm right with your thinking.
 
I have no idea why these big college coaches ever want to go NFL in the first place. You have almost total control over the program, you still make a shitload of money, if you have a self perpetuating winning program (which is the only way you are considered for an NFL job) you basically are guaranteed to win at a 80% or better click. And you can have wayyyyyy more of a life.

Over the last 20 years the NFL football and college football have gotten drastically different. its possible that despite having success in college, some of these guys just prefer NFL football... other want the challenge, still others want the prestige. Its probably a safer bet to stay in college, but in many cases teams grow delusions of national championships that are never coming and will fire good guys for failing to take that next step
 
Oh yeah I forgot this one too... some, like Petey Carrol, were running from impending sanctions... fleeing the skeletons in their closet, so to say.....
 
F'n Browns didn't even wait until sundown on the day of their last game. LOL.
 
Pagano got a 4 year extension instead of a pink slip. Irsay must have graduated from Hillbilly Heroin to the Rock. I mean, I get deciding not to fire him, but wouldn't a one or two year extension been good enough.
 
Pagano got a 4 year extension instead of a pink slip. Irsay must have graduated from Hillbilly Heroin to the Rock. I mean, I get deciding not to fire him, but wouldn't a one or two year extension been good enough.

That's what I thought
 
How the hell does Jeff Fisher still have a job, he is consistently mediocre yet you never hear his name mentioned on the chopping block.
 
How the hell does Jeff Fisher still have a job, he is consistently mediocre yet you never hear his name mentioned on the chopping block.

Don't even get me started on that traitorous fuckstick.

Dude ruined the careers of 3 potential Hall of Fame players in Tennesee (Mcnair, George, Kearse) by misusing them. Then after saddling himself with headcase Young, proceeds to stab his own team in the back by showing up at a banquet wearing their arch rival's jersey (Manning). He should have been fired on the spot for that stunt.

THEN he goes to the Rams and does nothing but lose. I don't get it. I think he must have pics of the Rams and Titans owner's in a hot tub somewhere.
 
How the hell does Jeff Fisher still have a job, he is consistently mediocre yet you never hear his name mentioned on the chopping block.

Never understood the appeal with Fisher. He gets a lot more respect than what he should.
 
Then after saddling himself with headcase Young, proceeds to stab his own team in the back by showing up at a banquet wearing their arch rival's jersey (Manning). He should have been fired on the spot for that stunt.

I'm not a fan of Jeff Fisher, but he wanted absolutely nothing to do with Vince Young. It was his owner (from Texas) who dictated the Vince Young draft choice.
 
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