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Ben and AB health updates

Steelers1356 said:
How would Schefter know what AB's physical state will be on Sunday when the final concussion test is on Friday?
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Schefter is a tool, fishing to make himself look good. I use to think he knew his ****, but he doesn't have anything on anybody. If anything, he starts non-factual rumors in hopes they come true, o make him look credible. **** him with a red hot poker!!!!!





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For what its worthESPN says Ben is playing:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ms-ac-sprain-torn-ligaments-throwing-shoulder

Multiple sources told ESPN on Monday that Roethlisberger is likely to play against Denver. The three-time Pro Bowler said Tuesday that he would "do whatever I can to be out there, but not at the expense of my team."

"I'll go in tomorrow with the intent to see what I can do," Roethlisberger said during the interview. "I honestly don't know."

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said later Tuesday that Roethlisberger "has a chance" to play against the Broncos but admitted that he would probably be limited in Wednesday's practice. Landry Jones will get the majority of the reps at quarterback early in the week
 
I think BR has studied tapes of "Baghdad Bob," the Iraqi "Information Minister" during the 2003 invasion.

Why broadcast to the opponent details of the injury? I'm buying very little of it.

I expect him to play, and to be pretty effective.
 
Concussions are tricky.. a guy can look 100% normal and still be showing symptoms... Hoge was fine, left the stadium and got lost in a fog trying to get home from Chicago one day... no one even knew there was something wrong with him... Often a guy with one will be on the sidelines looking spry and fine, but his head is not clicking right. I don't care if AB got up, did a cartwheel off the field, and practices all week... if he failed that test administered by the independent dude on Saturday, then I will believe he is playing when he is suited up on the field Sunday. I have seen too many players in the NFL and NHL workout for months and seem fine, yet never play because symptoms lingered... its tricky and they are extra careful these days
 
Just saw a Ben interview Kaboly posted, jokingly said pain meds if it helps him play. He will get an injection I'm sure and be out there. Now its just waiting to see if AB can clear the protocol.
 
Ben's not day to day, more like hour to hour...


“We will just kind of take it day-by-day, but probably hour-by-hour really,” said Roethlisberger. “I will take a lot of mental reps, get in there and do my rehab and treatment and everything the doctors say to strengthen it and get back.”

Roethlisberger has yet to throw this week and will follow the advice of the team’s athletic training staff and doctors as to the how much work he can actually do.

“Today we might see what I can do, hand off, get mental reps,” said Roethlisberger. “We are going to take it hour-by-hour.”

One thing Roethlisberger won’t do is go out there if he feels like it will hurt the team. As much as he wants to play, if he can’t throw the ball downfield he understands that could be more of a hindrance than help.

“I want to be out there, unless I am going to hurt the team,” said Roethlisberger. “If you can’t throw the ball 25-30 yards down the field, I think you are hurting your team. I don’t think we put ourselves in that situation. If we can find any way possible to get out there where if I can deal with the pain and make plays, I will deal with it.

“I want to be out there with the guys, but I have always said not at the expense of hurting the team. We are going to do everything we can to get it as stable as we can. We will see what kind of pain things we can deal with on Sunday.”
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http://www.steelers.com/news/articl...ut-there/64d6df43-ce03-41db-8a7e-fe42fca8c74b
 
Here's the thing with Ben's injury, IMO, between the pain meds and adrenaline he will be able to play the 1st half and possibly play very well. What happens after the adrenaline wears off and they sit in the locker room for 15 minutes and he has to come and play to start the 3rd quarter. The Steelers should probably take their shots down field in the first half while the drugs are working and so is the adrenaline.

papillon
 
At some point, shouldn't Tomlin be putting a gag order on Ben?

Ben is either honest or dishonest to a fault. I would much rather he stick with the 'I'm day to day' and leave it at that. It's clear he has an injury to his throwing shoulder, the extent of it should be 'needs to know' only.
 
madinsomniac said:
Hopefully not a Lis franc.... that would likely do it for him forever id guess
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Who knows what exactly it is. I just know he isn't playing if he went back into a boot. Next man up, Toussaint and Todman, aka TnT
 
papillon said:
Here's the thing with Ben's injury, IMO, between the pain meds and adrenaline he will be able to play the 1st half and possibly play very well. What happens after the adrenaline wears off and they sit in the locker room for 15 minutes and he has to come and play to start the 3rd quarter. The Steelers should probably take their shots down field in the first half while the drugs are working and so is the adrenaline.

papillon
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before kickoff and another at halftime
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During the presser I heard Pouncey's name... anyone have any update on him... Tomlin was coyer than usual about it
 
madinsomniac said:
During the presser I heard Pouncey's name... anyone have any update on him... Tomlin was coyer than usual about it
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We'll see Pouncey in Latrobe. He's been seen recently with a PICC line in his arm which means he still on an antibiotic regimen. At this point if he was even going to be able to dress for the Super Bowl, he'd have to start practicing pretty damn soon.

To answer your question directly, Tomlin had no update. I think he found it funny that someone was even asking about Pouncey. David Todd keeps bringing Pouncey up because he finds it annoying that the Steelers won't just come out and say Pouncey is done for the year.
 
SteelerAl said:
Dulac has Ben at 85-90% likelihood of playing, AB at 50% and DeAngelo at 0%
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AB is probably at 50% because he doesn't take the impact/baseline test until today I think.
 
Yeah at this point I'm not worried about Ben playing - I'm quite sure he will. It's AB I'm gonna be checking for updates on every hour. Ugh
 
Bradshaw threw when the Dr's told him not too and it ended his career. Not sure Ben's in same situation,
but I'd listen to Dr this time.
 
BAS said:
At some point, shouldn't Tomlin be putting a gag order on Ben?

Ben is either honest or dishonest to a fault. I would much rather he stick with the 'I'm day to day' and leave it at that. It's clear he has an injury to his throwing shoulder, the extent of it should be 'needs to know' only.
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I would. One reason the Patriots have an advantage is they never talk about how bad injuries are to their key players. Why should they, it only helps their opponents prepare. They let the NFL know when the deadline is up.

I think Tomlin should have a ban on social media for injuries, especially for key players in the playoffs. Let the Broncos worry about it. We need every edge we can get, and some of it should come from the coaches.
 
@ I fully expect Ben Roethlisberger to play Sunday against the Broncos. In fact, I expect him to play well.

It's been my experience – and I've covered Roethlisberger since he came into the league – when he talks about an injury in great detail before a game, he's better than he lets on.

When he doesn't talk about it much, he's typically not playing.

Roethlisberger said on KDKA-FM Tuesday that he's got a sprained AC joint and torn ligaments in his right shoulder.

Well, a sprained AC joint is a shoulder separation. And there are various degrees to that. And when you have a sprain, there is either stretching or tearing of some ligaments to some degree. So it's really all the same injury.

And he played through it last Saturday.

Given a full week of rest and therapy – plus perhaps a pain-killing shot prior to Sunday's game – Roethlisberger should be good to go. I can't imagine him not playing in a playoff game if he's even slightly capable.

And despite national reports, the Steelers expect Antonio Brown to be fine as well. Concussions are tough to judge and some linger longer than others, but everything I'm hearing is that Brown will get through concussion protocol quickly.

He has no history of concussions, which helps. The more concussions you suffer, the more they tend to occur and linger.

But don't tell Pacman that. He's likely to continue to say Brown deserves a Grammy Award for what happened Saturday. Never mind the fact that the Grammy is a music award.

The news on DeAngelo Williams wasn't quite as good. Despite the fact he's out of his walking boot, Tomlin said Williams is on the outside looking in as far as playing Sunday.

That's somewhat surprising. And even Williams responded to national reports that he would miss the game on social media with a “SMH.”

He thinks he's going to play.


http://www.observer-reporter.com/ap...160112/BLOGS08/160119863#.VpVtNx0wptk.twitter
 
Just saw a tweet on ESPN's app where AB has been telling some teammates that he is experiencing concussion symptoms. Hopefully that was yesterday. If he's still having them today and definitely tomorrow, then he isn't playing Sunday.
 
madinsomniac said:
During the presser I heard Pouncey's name... anyone have any update on him... Tomlin was coyer than usual about it
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Not that it matters cause he won't play a meaningful down this year, but when you said this and I saw Ben talking I noticed Pouncey's locker is still full. Shoulder pads and all. He hasn't practiced since August and his stuff is still out?
 
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