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Another player retires early

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POP said:
Not according to the Jets beat writer who said this decision was most likely made before they asked for a new deal to lower his cap hit. He was on Mike & Mike today. He also had come out and said the movie "Concussion" affected him and it ticked him off that the NFL tried to hide the truth about CTE for so long. That likely had more of an impact than talking about a pay cut. Dude walked away from 11 mill.
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EARLY RETIREMENT................... The average life span in the NFL is way less than ten years,........So early retirement should be less than ten years. EITHER way the MONEY had something to do with his retirement. The PAY CUT is part of the money involved........Thus the pay cut had something to do with it.....KAPISH???????




Salute the nation
 
Reading the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about the Bills LBer AJ Tarpley who was an undrafted rookie last year who just retired because of concussions.

Should of known better it is a Pop thread lol Average NFL career is 3.3 years, guy just played 10 seasons
 
POP said:
I define "early" as still being able to get a team to cut you a check for millions a year but you choose to walk away. That barely ever happened before; the vast majority of players only quit when no teams were willing to pay them. This clearly isn't the case.
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So was Peyton Manning an early retirement then? Surely, Denver or some other sorry team would be willing to cut him a check for millions a year and chose to "walk away."
 
The dude has options. He's made millions, set his family up for life. He's also playing for a **** franchise going nowhere fast.

I've written this before, and it is my take when anyone walks away. Football is too often "taken" from those of us who play. Either we aren't good enough to play at the next level up, or we get hurt, or cut, or whatever. My hat is off to anyone who can leave on their own terms...when THEY decide they are done. Ferguson just might not have his heart in it any more, and I can't pass judgement on that. He had a 10-year run that was damn good. Now he can move on to something more fulfilling than protecting Ryan Fitzpatrick's *** on Sunday afternoons...
 
I wonder how many old school football players would have retired a lot earlier if they'd been making the kind of money the players are making these days.
 
With all the emphasis on concussion prevention and treatment protocol, why hasn't the NFL made mouthpieces mandatory? Don't they help prevent concussions?
 
chipped ham said:
So was Peyton Manning an early retirement then? Surely, Denver or some other sorry team would be willing to cut him a check for millions a year and chose to "walk away."
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Denver - nor any team - weren't willing to pay Manning. Where the F did you get this from? No team was going to pay Manning. He was totally spent, physically, very lucky to win another ring.
 
Troglodyte said:
With all the emphasis on concussion prevention and treatment protocol, why hasn't the NFL made mouthpieces mandatory? Don't they help prevent concussions?
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I don't recall seeing any player playing without a mouthpiece, but no, those alone won't prevent concussions. When you get hit in the head, and the brain whacks into the skull, nothing a mouth piece does to protect against that.
 
nooneuno said:
Reading the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about the Bills LBer AJ Tarpley who was an undrafted rookie last year who just retired because of concussions.

Should of known better it is a Pop thread lol Average NFL career is 3.3 years, guy just played 10 seasons
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Straw man arguments are not worthy of a reply.
 
POP said:
I don't recall seeing any player playing without a mouthpiece, but no, those alone won't prevent concussions. When you get hit in the head, and the brain whacks into the skull, nothing a mouth piece does to protect against that.
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There actually is a newer mouthpiece developed with concussions in mind, it helps prevent shock and slamming in the jaw region... I'd imagine it is a good bit more uncomfortable or more teams would use it. Surprised you're not hip to these as the Patriots are one of the league leaders in using these. The stats were showing that they lessened possibility of concussion between 60-70% if my memory serves correctly. I'm actually surprised a league so concerned with player safety (tongue in cheek) does not make this new equipment mandatory.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
I wonder how many old school football players would have retired a lot earlier if they'd been making the kind of money the players are making these days.
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Can you imagine Mean Joe Greene / Jack Lampert / Terry Bradshaw (mean Joe Bradshaw's brother) HAD THEY all retired after their 2nd SB ???? What about Joe Montana???? How about t*mmy b*y after his 2nd, maybe that franchise might have kept the "CHEATING *** *******" persona at bay...........



Salute the nation
 
POP said:
Denver - nor any team - weren't willing to pay Manning. Where the F did you get this from? No team was going to pay Manning. He was totally spent, physically, very lucky to win another ring.
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Number 1, I was just going after your very vague generalization that being "young" in the NFL meant a team is willing to pay "millions" for a players services. Number 2, manning retired with another year left on his deal which was worth roughly $18 million. So, had Manning decided to play another year, Denver would've more than likely kept him but restructured his contract probably to just a couple million for next season. And if Denver released him, I have an extremely hard time seeing NO team in the league offering him Atleast $2-$3 million for next year. Remember, teams like the Browns do exist in today's NFL. How likely was all this to happen? It doesn't really matter because Forrest Gump retired. But, by your definition, he would be considered "young" in your opinion.
 
POP said:
Denver - nor any team - weren't willing to pay Manning. Where the F did you get this from? No team was going to pay Manning. He was totally spent, physically, very lucky to win another ring.
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This is a league where Robert Griffin still has a home and Matt Flynn received not just one, but TWO decent sized contracts for ONE ******* game. You're naive to think no team would have signed Peyton Manning.
 
chipped ham said:
This is a league where Robert Griffin still has a home and Matt Flynn received not just one, but TWO decent sized contracts for ONE ******* game. You're naive to think no team would have signed Peyton Manning.
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You're naive to think any team would. Flynn and RG still had an upside; Manning has none. Did you bother to notice his stats from last year?

http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/careerstats

9 TDs, 17 int, the worst season of his career BY FAR. 67.9 passer rating, worse than his ROOKIE YEAR.

Not a single team in the NFL would sign him.
 
chipped ham said:
Number 1, I was just going after your very vague generalization that being "young" in the NFL meant a team is willing to pay "millions" for a players services. Number 2, manning retired with another year left on his deal which was worth roughly $18 million. So, had Manning decided to play another year, Denver would've more than likely kept him but restructured his contract probably to just a couple million for next season. And if Denver released him, I have an extremely hard time seeing NO team in the league offering him Atleast $2-$3 million for next year. Remember, teams like the Browns do exist in today's NFL. How likely was all this to happen? It doesn't really matter because Forrest Gump retired. But, by your definition, he would be considered "young" in your opinion.
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Denver is in cap HELL...no way Manning was going to play for them next year. And no way would Manning take $2 or $3 million to play for anyone else next season. With all the money he has earned over his career through football, endorsements and making PIZZA's would he ever suit up in a uniform for that amount of money.
 
POP said:
I don't recall seeing any player playing without a mouthpiece, but no, those alone won't prevent concussions. When you get hit in the head, and the brain whacks into the skull, nothing a mouth piece does to protect against that.
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No, but biting down on the mouthpiece has been shown to help reduce the impacts of violent collisions.
 
I think the Jets would have probably signed Manning as it's their MO. But they might still be salty about his decision to stay in school back in 1997 as they had the #1 pick.
 
In his thank you facebook post to fan no mention whatsoever of any health reasons for his retirement. Simply said it was becoming to hard to keep playing at the level he was accustomed too.

Kudos to him he could of continued to collect a paycheck but decided to leave the game on his own terms.
 
POP said:
You're naive to think any team would. Flynn and RG still had an upside; Manning has none. Did you bother to notice his stats from last year?

http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/careerstats

9 TDs, 17 int, the worst season of his career BY FAR. 67.9 passer rating, worse than his ROOKIE YEAR.

Not a single team in the NFL would sign him.
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Exactly what upside did Matt Flynn offer on the SECOND big deal he got? He had proved to that point to be nothing more than a spot-starter at best. Yet, some orginization offered him a rather large deal. Yes, I am fully aware of his stats from last season. You throwing them out there prove exactly dick.
 
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