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AFC Division Game - Jags vs. Steelers

SteelBuckeye said:
It just amazes me that some of y'all can't see that the 14 points off of turnovers were as big a contributing factor as the ****** defense and bad coaching decisions. All combined to create this **** storm.

Ben is the absolute best QB this team has ever had. A sure H.O.F. QB ... However, he's not above reproach.
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Was Ben out there on D to start the game when the Jags drove down the field with no resistance at all for a lead? Was it Ben's idea to go empty set for 3 plays on their first series? Did Ben call those two 4th and short toss plays? Did Ben call onside kick? Not to mention this team came out of the tunnel unprepared to play. Sorry, that's coaching. It was the worst I've seen since the last time Tomlin got bounced by these jokers in 07 when he decided to go for two from the friggen 22 yard line.
 
oneforthebus said:
Anyone blaming Ben for this loss is a ******* moron. Without Ben we had no chance at all.
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So, you're saying those turnovers didn't matter. They didn't affect the outcome? Weren't reflected on the scoreboard?
I'm saying that we knew our defense was suspect and we couldn't afford mistakes like that. Those turnovers affected the game as surely as the defense's inability to get stops.
 
Steel G said:
Was Ben out there on D to start the game when the Jags drove down the field with no resistance at all for a lead? Was it Ben's idea to go empty set for 3 plays on their first series? Did Ben call those two 4th and short toss plays? Did Ben call onside kick? Not to mention this team came out of the tunnel unprepared to play. Sorry, that's coaching. It was the worst I've seen since the last time Tomlin got bounced by these jokers in 07 when he decided to go for two from the friggen 22 yard line.
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No, Ben threw an Int and fumbled the ball away. Two turnovers that led to 14 points. His play early in the game was a factor in why they lost this game. But, hey let's forget about those 14 points. Let's act like they didn't happen. We won the game by 11 points and are on our way to play the Cheats* next week right?
 
SteelBuckeye said:
So, you're saying those turnovers didn't matter. They didn't affect the outcome? Weren't reflected on the scoreboard?
I'm saying that we knew our defense was suspect and we couldn't afford mistakes like that. Those turnovers affected the game as surely as the defense's inability to get stops.
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She's saying the turnovers shouldn't have mattered when you still score 42 points. And she's right.
 
Stoney said:
She's saying the turnovers shouldn't have mattered when you still score 42 points. And she's right.
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Turnovers always matter. They mattered today. So did the ****** defense.
 
Without Ben's fearlessness and risk taking a lot of the big plays never happen. I shudder to think what this team would be like without Ben the last 14 years.

110 rating, 469 yards and 5 TDS and some people still blaming him for the loss. LMAO.
 
oneforthebus said:
Without Ben's fearlessness and risk taking a lot of the big plays never happen. I shudder to think what this team would be like without Ben the last 14 years.

110 rating, 469 yards and 5 TDS and some people still blaming him for the loss. LMAO.
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And im not blaming him but if he gets rid of the ball on both plays we dont have two turnovers. You have to take the good with the bad i guess
 
antdrewjosh said:
And im not blaming him but if he gets rid of the ball on both plays we dont have two turnovers. You have to take the good with the bad i guess
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And if he gets rid of the ball on several other plays we don't have 5 TDS. Yes, you have to take the good with the bad.
 
Stoney said:
The coaching came first.
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So the onside kick and 4th down decisions happened before the turnovers?? Look man it was a clusterfuck all around starting with the disappearance of Heyward and Tuitt.
 
oneforthebus said:
And if he gets rid of the ball on several other plays we don't have 5 TDS. Yes, you have to take the good with the bad.
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I agree but that doesnt excuse them they happened. We lost as a team today no one is blameless is the point im trying to make. Its enough to go around
 
oneforthebus said:
Without Ben's fearlessness and risk taking a lot of the big plays never happen. I shudder to think what this team would be like without Ben the last 14 years.

110 rating, 469 yards and 5 TDS and some people still blaming him for the loss. LMAO.
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I don't get what you don't see. I'm not blaming Ben entirely for the loss. HOWEVER, I am saying that his turnovers played a part in the loss along with ****** defense, poor game planning by Haley and poor decisions by Tomlin in the second half. It was a total team **** show. But, some of y'all want to blame only the defense, Haley (well i'm OK with that) and Tomlin. Ben's early play cost us too.
 
SteelBuckeye said:
I don't get what you don't see. I'm not blaming Ben entirely for the loss. HOWEVER, I am saying that his turnovers played a part in the loss along with ****** defense, poor game planning by Haley and poor decisions by Tomlin in the second half. It was a total team **** show. But, some of y'all want to blame only the defense, Haley (well i'm OK with that) and Tomlin. Ben's early play cost us too.
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I agree if Bell had fumbled early and it led directly to points i'd be saying the same thing
 
antdrewjosh said:
I agree if Bell had fumbled early and it led directly to points i'd be saying the same thing
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Ben had a very good game. The blame is on coaching Tomlin ‘s culture / lack of focus and bad onside kick call. And the defense.


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Coach said:
Ben had a very good game. The blame is on coaching Tomlin ‘s culture / lack of focus and bad onside kick call. And the defense.


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Did you mention the part about how well prepared they were for when they play the CHEATRIOTS??????????????




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Still this?
Our offense put up 42 points and 500+ yards vs the #1 defense in football, way above their season average

The defense gave up basically double the points and yards they averaged all season. The Jags scored one TD vs Buffalo and one TD vs Tenn the previous two weeks. The defense is the reason we lost. If the D just plays average we still win

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Tomlins defense sucks. Tomlins coaching decisions suck. The problem is tomlin. This team has talented players and a poor head coach.
 
Coryea said:
Still this?
Our offense put up 42 points and 500+ yards vs the #1 defense in football, way above their season average

The defense gave up basically double the points and yards they averaged all season. The Jags scored one TD vs Buffalo and one TD vs Tenn the previous two weeks. The defense is the reason we lost. If the D just plays average we still win

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This spin cycle continues I see , but this.

As many games have its main culprits. But in that J-ville loss it is.

1 Defense
2 Turnovers
3 Coaching (game plans, lack or preparation)

2 wasn't as bad as 1 so it can't be higher on the pecking order.
 
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