According to Steelers Beat writer Easy Ed Bouchette, he says "thats all folks"

[Drink IRON City]

Here's a serious question about Tomlin. Aside from OL which is clearly Munchak's doing, what player in the Tomlin Era was drafted and then developed into a much better player than when he entered the league?

It seems there is not much player development under Tomlin. The steelers draft and if they hit on a good player like Watt or Juju then they have a good player. If they get a subpar or mediocre producer or raw prospect like Dupree or Burns, then they just don't seem to get much better.

Antonio Brown? He was a 6th rounder so he barely played as a rookie but in season 2 he had 1100 yards. AB was good immediately due to his elite quickness and hands. To this day though, he's a poor route runner. Ben is a QB that like to improvise so it works. Obviously AB is a much better player now. Everybody gets better with experience. Was he well coached though? Nobody taught him to run routes.

Shazier? He made plays but missed a bunch too. He was good, but with his talents, he should have been great, a real gamechanger.


Who else? Certainly no DB has developed. Mike Hilton seemed like maybe that guy but he seems to have plateaued as a solid but not great player.


Take a look at 2 guys from the same school, same position, same draft. Bud Dupree and Za'Darius Smith. Dupree has much more physical ability and was a 1st rounder. Smith was a 4th rounder by the Ravens. Fast forward a few years and Smith is a much better player than Dupree.

Ouch! Thats troubling! I think like many here that Tomlin talked himself into the head coaching job 12 seasons ago because that is what he does best. The Rooney's were taken back, enamored, wowed by the way he presented himself, and he happened to be a minority, when in fact in all seriousness, Whisenhut was the better, much more experienced candidate. Tomlin came with one, only one year as a defensive coordinator where his Vikings defense was at the bottom of the league and also had experience with DB's at Tampa.
Tomlin is not a teacher therefore no, he's not known for developing players or coaching them up. He's a talker, silver tongue artist, carnival barker, loaded with clever speak skirting around pertinent questions much too often at his weekly pressers, chest bumper who has poor management skills, not very good at keeping 53 men focused, much too often out coached and lacks the ability to adjust. Thats who he is.

Aditi said she spent a week at the Ravens while they where getting ready for their PLAYIOFF game and she noticed a dramatic difference. The3 coaches over there were always coaching up / talking betterment / to the players and that was something she never saw, to thaT DEGREE, HERE AT STEELERS - ville.




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[slashsteel]

Aditi said she spent a week at the Ravens while they where getting ready for their PLAYIOFF game and she noticed a dramatic difference. The3 coaches over there were always coaching up / talking betterment / to the players and that was something she never saw, to thaT DEGREE, HERE AT STEELERS - ville.




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Yeah sad that the rats clearly have a better approach. I mean hell they won the division with a running QB. Clearly they overachieved as the Steelers underachieved.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Yeah sad that the rats clearly have a better approach. I mean hell they won the division with a running QB. Clearly they overachieved as the Steelers underachieved.

slash, that brings us back to talent. I truly think the STEELERS are by far better talented than the rats. Why do we continually play down? Why can't this team be focused and ready similar to the Panthers / CHEATRIOTS / NO games more consistantly?? How do you tie with the Browns opening day and even lose to the Raiders?????? It all starts at the top........................... And to answer my question... It seems to be OK at the top with this lackadazical try.




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[black and gold apex]

WOW we sure made some big changes coming. most in football world had no idea the two let go were coaches in Pittsburgh. I can see number one defense in league next year after these coaching changes as well number one rushing offense. Tomlin likes to flap his jaw that is all.