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A possible solution in Syria

I guess they finally crossed that red line or something.


Obama to Send Troops to Syria
By JOHN PARKINSON LUIS MARTINEZ JIM AVILA JUSTIN FISHEL
Oct 30, 2015, 10:53 AM ET
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PHOTO: Barack Obama addresses the International Chiefs of Police (IACP) annual conference at McCormick Place, Oct. 27, 2015, in Chicago.PlayScott Olson/Getty Images
WATCH President Obama Reportedly Weighs Sending Troops to Syria
President Obama is directing the Pentagon to send special forces into Syria to advise the Syrian opposition in its fight against ISIS, sources confirmed to ABC News.

The change would station U.S. special operations forces on the ground for the first time in Syria in its fight against the Islamic State after thousands of airstrikes in the past year produced mixed results, although their mission is expected to be primarily advisory.


The change "is consistent with strategy to intensify the battle against ISIS,” a White House senior official told ABC News.

A U.S. official says the White House will announce that Obama has authorized somewhere around 50 special operations forces to go into Syria to work with the rebel group known as the Syrian Arab Coalition. These forces will work along the Syrian border and not on the front lines with the rebel groups. They will provide training, assistance and advise just as U.S. troops are doing in Iraq.

They will not be in combat, they will work with the Syrian Arab Coalition to facilitate airstrikes, but they are not forward air controllers. They will be at the group’s headquarters speeding up coordination of potential airstrikes.

The White House is expected to characterize the change as "an enhancement" of the existing training, advisory and assist mission in Iraq against ISIS. There will not be additional troops for Iraq though there will likely be a redistribution of existing forces there to better work with Iraqi forces.
 
I think troops in syria is a bad idea. I foresee a clash with russian forces. They may bomb is by 'accident' or we may run into them while they are. I think it welts be a mistake to make a crazy guy with nukes mad especially when we are so passive.
 
jitter77 said:
I think troops in syria is a bad idea. I foresee a clash with russian forces. They may bomb is by 'accident' or we may run into them while they are. I think it welts be a mistake to make a crazy guy with nukes mad especially when we are so passive.
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If that happened. And I actually think Putin would do it if he knew where they were. You think this pissy of a pres would do anything.
 
Of course he would do something......He would say "your a bad bad boy putin, dont do it again!"
 
jitter77 said:
Of course he would do something......He would say "your a bad bad boy putin, dont do it again!"
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No, he would call up Air Force One and go golfing immediately.
 
Seems we have a new solution....Have ISIS bomb an Russian plane which makes Russia destroy Syria.
 
Snap. Whatcha going to do Putin.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ocean-two-weeks-claiming-downed-one-jets.html


The Islamic State has released a chilling video warning of attacks in Russia 'very soon' and threatening to 'make their wives concubines and their children slaves'.

The footage, posted by the group's notorious propaganda wing, also included chants of 'the blood will spill like an ocean' while showing horrific images of beheadings and scenes of Russian troops.

ISIS has previously called for attacks on Russia and the United States in revenge for air strikes on its fighters in Syria.

Western intelligence officials also suspect the ultra-hardline Sunni group of planting a bomb in a Russian passenger jet which crashed in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula two weeks ago killing 224 people.
 
Maybe the U.S. planted the bomb to make it look like ISIS and pull Russia into an anti-terrorism war like we were the last decade....

Conspiracies abound....
 
Oops.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/middleeast/warplane-crashes-near-syria-turkey-border/index.html

One of the world's most volatile regions was roiled further Tuesday when a Russian warplane went down near the Turkish-Syria border. Turkey said it "responded" to a plane after the aircraft repeatedly violated its airspace and ignored several warnings.

Turkey's semi-official Anadolu news agency quoted Turkish presidential sources in reporting that the Russian Su-24 was "hit within the framework of engagement rules" in Syria's Bayirbucak area, near the border with Turkey.

But Russia's state-run Sputnik news agency said that, "According to preliminary reports, the plane was gunned down from the ground."
 
Spike said:
The EU is crumbling...**** NATO


France: Assad's troops could help fight ISIS

France's foreign minister suggested Friday that, in spite of his country's resistance to allowing him to remain in power, Syrian dictator Bashar Assad's forces could play a valuable role in wiping out the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-isis-help-bashar-assad-forces-syria-turkey-russia/
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This is getting so ****** up. Great history lesson of the last 5 years:

https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153737513773410/
 
Basically Assad needs to step aside and they need to have elections but the problem is that middle eastern citizens are children with rockets and automatic weapons. In the West if your party loses an election you try to figure out where you went wrong and get better candidates next time. In the middle east if you lose an election then you still try to kill the people in the other party.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Basically Assad needs to step aside and they need to have elections but the problem is that middle eastern citizens are children with rockets and automatic weapons. In the West if your party loses an election you try to figure out where you went wrong and get better candidates next time. In the middle east if you lose an election then you still try to kill the people in the other party.
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The basic mistake that the entire west has made, from Brittish colonization onwards, was that the people in the mideast wanted or were ready for some semblance of democracy.

Afghanistan is very unlikely to adopt any form of government close to "democracy" until well after her people are educated enough to understand what rights and choices really might mean.

The US was a grand experiment in establishing a republic with democratic values; this happened because the new folks settling the land bought into and strengthened the institutions that gave them rights. (good thing there was no real opposition, eh)

Look how many wars have been ravaged thru Europe for hundreds of years to get their people to the point where they regard their governments as democratic in nature.

The massive arrogance of the west in simply assuming "we know best" for foreign governments/peoples has cost billlions and billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands/millions of lives.

Those 'civilized' westerners mostly give a ****, and are moved to action after some spectacular event like 9/11 or recently in Paris. Horrific, dramatically shown on TV by the media.

But no one gives a **** for far worse atrocities brought onto the Nigerian people by Boko Haram; even recently. Have more people died recently in Paris or NorthEastern Nigeria because of Islamic extremists? People around the world clearly understand the message that westerners matter more. What a shameful hypocrisy.
 
Obama had a chance to go into Syria. He could have. We still had troops on the ground in Iraq and Assad crossed a so-called "international" line by dropping chemical weapons on his own people.

He was so intent on withdrawing all troops, he just let the whole region play it's games with money and weapons and religion and this is where we're at. Mass migration. Islamic extremists with huge swaths of land, resources and money. Turkey fighting the Kurds. Turkey funding (through Saudi Arabia) the Assad rebels. Russia/Iran funding Assad. And the U.S./Europe bombing ISIS.

Iraq could care less. For all intensive purposes, they've given up on the northern half of their country and have aligned themselves with Iran.

Israel is pissed because the West is more worried about ISIS than Russia/Iran/Assad/Hezbolah and its potential to come out much stronger on the other end of this.

Really goes to show that for all those Americans who believe we should just "let them fight it out for themselves" and play an isolationist game in the Middle East don't have a clue what they are talking about. IMO of course.
 
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