A possible solution in Syria
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Yoo-hoo, go Putin! The natural next step, following his aligning with Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia, drumroll please...
Vladimir Putin says Russia will fight for the right of Palestinians to their own state
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...palestinians-to-their-own-state-10141902.html
He told the summit this weekend: “Palestinians have the right to establish an independent and habitable state with a capital in East Jerusalem.
“Russia will continue to contribute to achieving this goal through bilateral and multilateral channels,” he said.
Vladimir Putin says Russia will fight for the right of Palestinians to their own state
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...palestinians-to-their-own-state-10141902.html
He told the summit this weekend: “Palestinians have the right to establish an independent and habitable state with a capital in East Jerusalem.
“Russia will continue to contribute to achieving this goal through bilateral and multilateral channels,” he said.
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No dummy, this is not ISIS, but the Syrian rebels fighting Assad, our enemy. You know, the Assad propped up by the Iranians, and now backed by the Russians. But please continue sinking this thread into the deepest depths of disinformation.
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[QUOTEthe 20 fighet=bs;168570]No dummy, this is not ISIS, but the Syrian rebels fighting Assad, our enemy. You know, the Assad propped up by the Iranians, and now backed by the Russians. But please continue sinking this thread into the deepest depths of disinformation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the 20 fighters that we spent $500 mil training will be appreciative.
Yeah, the 20 fighters that we spent $500 mil training will be appreciative.
the same Iranians that Bomma just bent over (forward) for to allow "nuclear energy"?
the same Russians that Bomma scoffs at?
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Important deal signed off on by all western powers in the world. Better this deal, than no deal.
Yup, same Russians we should all be scoffing at. Certainly not cheering them on, like what's been happening here at SN. Quite baffling.
No doubt.
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I believe you will see they are one in the same.
Just think, the nuclear winter it creates, will solve global warming. Win and win.
*sigh*.....
My money is its a Russia plane.
Turkey says it shot down aircraft near border with Syria
By Hande Atay, CNN
Updated 7:16 AM ET, Fri October 16, 2015
(CNN)Turkey's air force shot down an unidentified aircraft that had entered Turkish airspace near the Syrian border, Turkish armed forces said in a statement Friday.
The aircraft was shot down after it did not respond to three warnings from the Turkish air force, according to the statement.
Turkey says it shot down aircraft near border with Syria
By Hande Atay, CNN
Updated 7:16 AM ET, Fri October 16, 2015
(CNN)Turkey's air force shot down an unidentified aircraft that had entered Turkish airspace near the Syrian border, Turkish armed forces said in a statement Friday.
The aircraft was shot down after it did not respond to three warnings from the Turkish air force, according to the statement.
Today's Religion of Peace Update:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...ats-seven-year-old-daughter-saying-dont-love/
A Saudi man living in the kingdom’s capital city Riyadh beat his seven-year-old daughter to death with an air conditioning hose in a fit of rage. Her crime was telling him she did not love him.
Yara was reportedly forced to live with her father under the terms of her parents’ divorce, against her wishes. Her mother reportedly told the Saudi daily newspaper Al Watan that Yara did not want to move in with him, that she was very unhappy. Under Saudi Sharia law, fathers automatically gain custody rights of their daughters when they turn nine and sons when they turn seven.
The father reportedly became angry when Yara told him she did not love him and did not want to live with him, which sent him into a rage. The Daily Mail notes that this is when he snatched a hose from the air conditioning unit and began beating her with it, including hitting the little girl on the head. He allegedly told prosecutors that he wanted to “educate” his daughter.
He then locked her in her bedroom, where she had an uncontrollable crying fit. “When he unlocked the room, he noticed she was in a bad condition and drove her to hospital. However, she died on the way.” The blow to her head likely caused the fatality.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...ats-seven-year-old-daughter-saying-dont-love/
A Saudi man living in the kingdom’s capital city Riyadh beat his seven-year-old daughter to death with an air conditioning hose in a fit of rage. Her crime was telling him she did not love him.
Yara was reportedly forced to live with her father under the terms of her parents’ divorce, against her wishes. Her mother reportedly told the Saudi daily newspaper Al Watan that Yara did not want to move in with him, that she was very unhappy. Under Saudi Sharia law, fathers automatically gain custody rights of their daughters when they turn nine and sons when they turn seven.
The father reportedly became angry when Yara told him she did not love him and did not want to live with him, which sent him into a rage. The Daily Mail notes that this is when he snatched a hose from the air conditioning unit and began beating her with it, including hitting the little girl on the head. He allegedly told prosecutors that he wanted to “educate” his daughter.
He then locked her in her bedroom, where she had an uncontrollable crying fit. “When he unlocked the room, he noticed she was in a bad condition and drove her to hospital. However, she died on the way.” The blow to her head likely caused the fatality.
He should be executed in the exact same way. Plus pig's blood, etc...
Russia is still bombing the **** out of ISIS, 51 more sites in 24 hours. The terrorists are shaving their beards and fleeing to Turkey. (postponing my trip to Istanbul even longer, *******)
http://www.brobible.com/life/article/isis-terrorists-cut-beards-escape/
http://www.brobible.com/life/article/isis-terrorists-cut-beards-escape/
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Click link for video, interesting perspective.
Petraeus: Syria is a 'geopolitical Chernobyl'
http://www.france24.com/en/20151019-interview-david-petraeus-syria-iraq-afghanistan-assad-russia
The former commander of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and former director of the CIA, retired general David Petraeus, granted an exclusive interview to FRANCE 24.
Petraeus warned that Russia’s military involvement in Syria would further complicate the situation there, which he compared to a "geopolitical Chernobyl" with very little hope for a political solution.
The former top US general explained that Russia's intervention on the side of the regime, combined with that of Iran and Shia militias, had caused a "reversal of momentum on the battlefield", with the regime making up lost ground. He accused Russia of targeting the moderate Syrian opposition, saying that "90 percent" of Russian air strikes targeted such groups, including those supported by the US.
On Iraq, the former US commander said that the Iraqi army was making progress against the Islamic State group, but warned that the real key to solving the crisis was to make Iraqi politics more inclusive by bringing in the Sunnis.
Finally, Petraeus welcomed as "the right decision" the announcement by President Obama that the US would maintain 5,500 troops in Afghanistan through the rest of his mandate, stressing that it "remains a very important mission" aimed at preventing terrorist groups from regaining a base.
Petraeus: Syria is a 'geopolitical Chernobyl'
http://www.france24.com/en/20151019-interview-david-petraeus-syria-iraq-afghanistan-assad-russia
The former commander of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and former director of the CIA, retired general David Petraeus, granted an exclusive interview to FRANCE 24.
Petraeus warned that Russia’s military involvement in Syria would further complicate the situation there, which he compared to a "geopolitical Chernobyl" with very little hope for a political solution.
The former top US general explained that Russia's intervention on the side of the regime, combined with that of Iran and Shia militias, had caused a "reversal of momentum on the battlefield", with the regime making up lost ground. He accused Russia of targeting the moderate Syrian opposition, saying that "90 percent" of Russian air strikes targeted such groups, including those supported by the US.
On Iraq, the former US commander said that the Iraqi army was making progress against the Islamic State group, but warned that the real key to solving the crisis was to make Iraqi politics more inclusive by bringing in the Sunnis.
Finally, Petraeus welcomed as "the right decision" the announcement by President Obama that the US would maintain 5,500 troops in Afghanistan through the rest of his mandate, stressing that it "remains a very important mission" aimed at preventing terrorist groups from regaining a base.
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Great news! Go anti-Assad rebels! Let's not forget who the enemy is in this conflict...along with of course ISIS, who are left free to roam by the Russian-led operation to support Assad.
CIA-Armed Rebels March On Assad Homeland
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...on-assad-homeland.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
The Russian bombs were supposed to be helping Syria’s dictator. Instead, the rebels are advancing.
Three weeks of Russian aerial bombardment in Syria hasn't exactly helped the Bashar al-Assad regime in its push north of Damascus. Social media has for the last three weeks been awash with images of burning Syrian Arab Army tanks, all wrecked by a tactically powerful anti-tank missile, the BGM-71 TOW, supplied (via Saudi Arabia) by the United States to certain CIA-backed anti-Assad militias.
Yesterday, two large rebel umbrella groups—Jaysh al-Fateh (Army of Conquest), a large consortium of Islamists which includes the official Syrian al-Qaeda franchise, and the Free Syrian Army, an admittedly catchall category but one that includes 39 CIA-vetted TOW recipients—announced a major counteroffensive.
The push is taking place in northern Hama and the eastern hills of Latakia. This coastal province is the Assad family’s homeland—and the area where Russia has constructed a forward operation base and headquarters for its Syrian adventure. Far from being pushed out, the rebels are actually pushing in on Moscow’s military fief in the Levant. ISIS, which Russia disingenuously claims to be focusing its fire and steel on, has also gobbled up geography in Aleppo.
Reports emerged earlier this week that rebel shelling may have even killed three Russian servicemen in Latakia, an allegation denied by the Kremlin, which insists it hasn’t any ground troops in Syria. But given the plausibility of the claim, and its provenance in pro-Assad state media, rumors of “Cargo 200”—the Russian military code for combat fatalities—only underscore the so-far lackluster performance of Vladimir Putin’s coalition.
Pro-Assad forces in the battle for Hama include the Syrian Arab Army, Lebanese Hezbollah, the Iran-built National Defense Force militia, and advisors from both the Russian military and Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps.
Yet against that multinational array, the FSA has managed to hold its ground because its campaign is clearly being coordinated and encouraged by Western and regional intelligence services, which have displayed a newfound willingness to allow more defensive weaponry to their proxies.
As Charles Lister, an analyst of Syria’s multifarious insurgency at the Brookings Institution, calculated, the use of the TOW missile has increased a staggering 850% since the Russians started bombing, a metric that bolstered by press accounts featuring rebels attest to sudden bonanza of the tank-killer. Also reappearing on the battlefield is the RBG-6 multiple grenade launcher, a munition purchased by the Saudis from Croatia and imported into southern Syria via Jordan in 2013. (That supply line was abandoned after the launcher was found in the hands of jihadists not long after its import.)
Evidence of rebel victories is everywhere on social media. Here’s a video of Liwa Suquour al-Jabal destroying an artillery gun with a TOW missile in Khirbat al Naqus, near Latakia. Here’s one of a BMP being wiped out with a TOW near al-Qarassi, Aleppo, a town the rebels appear to have sacked, along with Tel Qurha, which lies just hundreds of meters south of a regime army base. According to the opposition-run Local Coordination Committees, Jaysh al-Fateh seized the village of Mansoura in Hama today after intense combat with pro-regime forces. The FSA participated in that operation, too, because the same anti-tank missile system was put to use in Mansoura.
Mohammed Rasheed, a fighter with Suqur al-Ghab, one of the CIA-backed militias fighting in Hama, told The Daily Beast, “We have managed to liberate two towns; Mea’ar Kabi in the northern [suburb] of Hama and Lahaya. We have been planning for this operation since the start of the Russian invasion. We wanted to reverse the situation and attack them instead of just defending ourselves.” Rasheed said that his brigade destroyed 23 regime tanks and killed 15 Syrian soliders— in the last 24 hours. “What helped us in this operation is that we all got united and fought as one army.”
CIA-Armed Rebels March On Assad Homeland
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...on-assad-homeland.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
The Russian bombs were supposed to be helping Syria’s dictator. Instead, the rebels are advancing.
Three weeks of Russian aerial bombardment in Syria hasn't exactly helped the Bashar al-Assad regime in its push north of Damascus. Social media has for the last three weeks been awash with images of burning Syrian Arab Army tanks, all wrecked by a tactically powerful anti-tank missile, the BGM-71 TOW, supplied (via Saudi Arabia) by the United States to certain CIA-backed anti-Assad militias.
Yesterday, two large rebel umbrella groups—Jaysh al-Fateh (Army of Conquest), a large consortium of Islamists which includes the official Syrian al-Qaeda franchise, and the Free Syrian Army, an admittedly catchall category but one that includes 39 CIA-vetted TOW recipients—announced a major counteroffensive.
The push is taking place in northern Hama and the eastern hills of Latakia. This coastal province is the Assad family’s homeland—and the area where Russia has constructed a forward operation base and headquarters for its Syrian adventure. Far from being pushed out, the rebels are actually pushing in on Moscow’s military fief in the Levant. ISIS, which Russia disingenuously claims to be focusing its fire and steel on, has also gobbled up geography in Aleppo.
Reports emerged earlier this week that rebel shelling may have even killed three Russian servicemen in Latakia, an allegation denied by the Kremlin, which insists it hasn’t any ground troops in Syria. But given the plausibility of the claim, and its provenance in pro-Assad state media, rumors of “Cargo 200”—the Russian military code for combat fatalities—only underscore the so-far lackluster performance of Vladimir Putin’s coalition.
Pro-Assad forces in the battle for Hama include the Syrian Arab Army, Lebanese Hezbollah, the Iran-built National Defense Force militia, and advisors from both the Russian military and Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps.
Yet against that multinational array, the FSA has managed to hold its ground because its campaign is clearly being coordinated and encouraged by Western and regional intelligence services, which have displayed a newfound willingness to allow more defensive weaponry to their proxies.
As Charles Lister, an analyst of Syria’s multifarious insurgency at the Brookings Institution, calculated, the use of the TOW missile has increased a staggering 850% since the Russians started bombing, a metric that bolstered by press accounts featuring rebels attest to sudden bonanza of the tank-killer. Also reappearing on the battlefield is the RBG-6 multiple grenade launcher, a munition purchased by the Saudis from Croatia and imported into southern Syria via Jordan in 2013. (That supply line was abandoned after the launcher was found in the hands of jihadists not long after its import.)
Evidence of rebel victories is everywhere on social media. Here’s a video of Liwa Suquour al-Jabal destroying an artillery gun with a TOW missile in Khirbat al Naqus, near Latakia. Here’s one of a BMP being wiped out with a TOW near al-Qarassi, Aleppo, a town the rebels appear to have sacked, along with Tel Qurha, which lies just hundreds of meters south of a regime army base. According to the opposition-run Local Coordination Committees, Jaysh al-Fateh seized the village of Mansoura in Hama today after intense combat with pro-regime forces. The FSA participated in that operation, too, because the same anti-tank missile system was put to use in Mansoura.
Mohammed Rasheed, a fighter with Suqur al-Ghab, one of the CIA-backed militias fighting in Hama, told The Daily Beast, “We have managed to liberate two towns; Mea’ar Kabi in the northern [suburb] of Hama and Lahaya. We have been planning for this operation since the start of the Russian invasion. We wanted to reverse the situation and attack them instead of just defending ourselves.” Rasheed said that his brigade destroyed 23 regime tanks and killed 15 Syrian soliders— in the last 24 hours. “What helped us in this operation is that we all got united and fought as one army.”
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We have NO friends over there in this fight. I say we sell arms to all of them, make a tidy little profit, and cheer them on as they kill each other.
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Well, yes and no. I agree with you to an extent, that we have enemies, and maybe lesser enemies in the region. What I do know, is that the Assad/Syrian regime, Hezbollah, the Revolutionary Guard of Iran are for sure our enemies. And I KNOW Isis is our enemy. Are rebel factions fighting Assad for a free Syria our enemies? Not so sure on that. When Russia swoops in and unilaterally attempts to prop-up Assad and his regime, in my book Russia is now clearly taking the side of the enemy.
This is the point I've been trying to make for weeks, hence my shock that the so-called conservatives on the board went all gonzo with their pro-Russian, pro-Putin man-crush. I think they completely misunderstand the realities on the ground. Conservatives back an iron-clad, unequivocal US support for Israel, yet cheer for Russia when they partner-up with Israel's sworn enemies like Assad, Hezbollah and Iran's Revolutionary Guard? The Russia that just rolled tanks into independant Ukraine a half a year ago and whose proxies shot down a civilian jet liner?
Crazy times, indeed. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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You can't be this obtuse. Nobody here is Pro-Putin. BHO was warned this would happen years ago. Hell Romney told him during the debates and BHO just laughed like a school girl. Now he looks like a moron. He is being out maneuvered by Putin. I don't like Putin but I can see when the POS is being out smarted. BHO has no plan and no policy in the ME. NONE. He half assed everything over there and now it's blowing up in his face. No body here is backing Russia. But I find it interesting that you are ok backing a anti- Assad group when you know nothing about them and the arms could easily fall into the hands of ISIS. There are no good guys there.
BTW all that bitching about the Benghazi committee spending a few million dollars and this administration spend $500 MILLION training 5... yes 5 soldiers. Doesn't make sense to me either.
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Oh boy, looks like somebody hasn't read through the thread. Pretty ironic for someone calling others obtuse.
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I've read every word. Nobody said they liked Putin. That's your spin. They see what he is doing to your boy on a world stage and wish our CIC had a set of balls.
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Yes this is pretty much it.
I don't believe I've expressed any love for the ex KGB guy. But, yeah he's showing the o to be a boy among men.