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A possible solution in Syria

Maybe Donald Trump can fly in on his private jet and hold Obama's hand as he works out a plan to deal with this. We all know the wealth of foreign policy and military knowledge the Donmeister has aquired over the years.


It never would have gotten to this stage to begin with. Odumma should've seriously gone after ISIS long ago. Now Putin is doing it and making him look like a fool.
 
What Indy said. Bomma has no means to deal with things when they don't go His way. When that happens His history is to ignore it and go play golf.

Funny how you guys regurgitate so much bullshit and just pass it back and forth...

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America's wartime president
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/23/opinion/bergen-obama-wartime-president/

Quick: Which U.S. president has authorized wars of various kinds in seven Muslim countries?

If you guessed Barack Hussein Obama, you are correct.

As it turned out, Obama was one of the most militarily aggressive American presidents in decades, authorizing military operations of various kinds in seven Muslim countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and, now, Syria.

Consider that he mandated a threefold increase in the number of American troops in Afghanistan, from 30,000 soldiers at the end of the Bush administration to 90,000, a surge of troops that played a critical role in blunting the Taliban's momentum, which had gathered strength in the final years of Bush's second term.

Consider that under Bush there were 48 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan. Under Obama there have been 328, which have killed some two-dozen al Qaeda commanders, according to a count by New America.

Consider that under Bush there was only one CIA drone strike in Yemen. Under Obama there have been 99 drone strikes and 15 airstrikes, which have killed more than three-dozen of the group's senior operatives there.

Obama is also the first American president to authorize the assassination of a United States citizen, the New Mexico-born al Qaeda operational commander Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed in Yemen in a drone strike in 2011.

The same year Obama initiated the alliance that overthrew the Libyan dictator, Moammar Gadhafi.

Obama has also waged an effective covert war in Somalia against the al Qaeda affiliate based there, Al-Shabaab, whose leader, Ahmed Godane, was killed in a U.S. airstrike earlier this month.

And Obama, of course, also authorized the risky U.S. Navy SEAL mission that killed al Qaeda's founder, Osama bin Laden, in 2011 in Abbottabad, a city deep inside Pakistan.

This is not the record of someone who is afraid to use American power, as his critics would have it, but rather a president who is comfortable exercising American hard power even in a country like Syria, where he has launched a war without the kinds of specific international or congressional authorizations other presidents have sought since World War II.
 
It never would have gotten to this stage to begin with. Odumma should've seriously gone after ISIS long ago. Now Putin is doing it and making him look like a fool.

Ahhh, the Trumpster brainiac chimes in. If you'd be paying any attention, Russia's air strikes - at least what we saw today - were not against ISIS, but they hit Syrian rebel troops (our allies fighting Assad) in Homs, western Syria.
 
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Bomma has said that He is not comfortable with America being a leader or winning. He is good at doing things half-assed and not finishing the job as in the events you posted above. This is not surprising because he was raised to believe that America is the source of all evil in the world so if we went to war, won, and took over the country, like we had pretty much done in Iraq, His head would explode and He would feel like a traitor to his Communist parents and grandparents,

I will say the same about the middle east situation as I did about the economy; it is pretty easily fixable but it requires doing things that Bomma doesn't believe in.
 
He is not comfortable with America being a leader or winning...he was raised to believe that America is the source of all evil in the world...
Yes, he hated America so very much, he decided to become a Senator then run for president and hold the office for two terms. Do you even read the nonsense you write, or just let your fingers do the typing? And your lap dog IndySteel is there to add his stamp of approval. This board is really something else...non-stop entertainment, a brief glimpse into the padded cells of a psychiatric ward.
 
Yes, he hated America so very much, he decided to become a Senator then run for president and hold the office for two terms. Do you even read the nonsense you write, or just let your fingers do the typing? And your lap dog IndySteel is there to add his stamp of approval. This board is really something else...non-stop entertainment, a brief glimpse into the padded cells of a psychiatric ward.
Not at all. He got into government (along with most other Democrats) in order to wreck the system He hates and turn it into a Socialist utopia. That's what that Hope and Change and Transformation is all about.
 
Not at all. He got into government (along with most other Democrats) in order to wreck the system He hates and turn it into a Socialist utopia. That's what that Hope and Change and Transformation is all about.
Or as you and your Tea Party brethren want us to believe. But it's a bunch of bullshit, simple as that. Wreck the system? Socialist utopia? You guys have got to put down your Ayn Rand books, go outside and get some fresh air.


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Funny how you guys regurgitate so much bullshit and just pass it back and forth...

140923160247-bombed-countries-obama-story-top.jpg


America's wartime president
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/23/opinion/bergen-obama-wartime-president/

Quick: Which U.S. president has authorized wars of various kinds in seven Muslim countries?

If you guessed Barack Hussein Obama, you are correct.

As it turned out, Obama was one of the most militarily aggressive American presidents in decades, authorizing military operations of various kinds in seven Muslim countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and, now, Syria.

Consider that he mandated a threefold increase in the number of American troops in Afghanistan, from 30,000 soldiers at the end of the Bush administration to 90,000, a surge of troops that played a critical role in blunting the Taliban's momentum, which had gathered strength in the final years of Bush's second term.

Consider that under Bush there were 48 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan. Under Obama there have been 328, which have killed some two-dozen al Qaeda commanders, according to a count by New America.

Consider that under Bush there was only one CIA drone strike in Yemen. Under Obama there have been 99 drone strikes and 15 airstrikes, which have killed more than three-dozen of the group's senior operatives there.

Obama is also the first American president to authorize the assassination of a United States citizen, the New Mexico-born al Qaeda operational commander Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed in Yemen in a drone strike in 2011.

The same year Obama initiated the alliance that overthrew the Libyan dictator, Moammar Gadhafi.

Obama has also waged an effective covert war in Somalia against the al Qaeda affiliate based there, Al-Shabaab, whose leader, Ahmed Godane, was killed in a U.S. airstrike earlier this month.

And Obama, of course, also authorized the risky U.S. Navy SEAL mission that killed al Qaeda's founder, Osama bin Laden, in 2011 in Abbottabad, a city deep inside Pakistan.

This is not the record of someone who is afraid to use American power, as his critics would have it, but rather a president who is comfortable exercising American hard power even in a country like Syria, where he has launched a war without the kinds of specific international or congressional authorizations other presidents have sought since World War II.

None of these are large in scope or scale. Also taking out Gadhafi was a ***** move. He gave up his nuclear ambitions and was much better than what Libya has now. Authorizing to kill OBL wasn't difficult. I have a hard time imagining what person wouldn't do that. Most of this is just limited air strikes and says nothing about his willingness to be involved in foreign wars. Drones aren't the same as tanks and people. It's an easy fight because he has no skin in the game.

He **** the bed in Syria and now doesn't know what to do. He **** the bed in Libya and doesn't know what to do. Hardly a record of an effective CIC. He's destabilized the entire region by not keeping troops in Iraqi and then not destroying ISIS to start with. He likes to play video game wars with drones. But drones aren't going to beat ISIS or any other terrorist group. Al Qaeda is still strong in the ME and his feckless leadership hasn't done anything other than take out a few leaders that are quickly replaced.
 
Or as you and your Tea Party brethren want us to believe. But it's a bunch of bullshit, simple as that. Wreck the system? Socialist utopia? You guys have got to put down your Ayn Rand books, go outside and get some fresh air.


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All because the govt is printing money and loaning it out to Wall St. at zero to negative interest rates. The wealthiest 1% have never done as well as they have under Bomma. But printing money and a wealthy elite served by an impoverished middle class is what Socialist countries do.
My business depends on getting clients from the middle to upper middle class and I can tell you that business sucks because those people don't have spare money any more.
 
Or as you and your Tea Party brethren want us to believe. But it's a bunch of bullshit, simple as that. Wreck the system? Socialist utopia? You guys have got to put down your Ayn Rand books, go outside and get some fresh air.


Obama-numbers.jpg

I'm no super fan of Obama and I love Ayn Rand books but that graph since 2008 is acceptable to me.

I wanted a better policy abroad and I don't think he's a good foreign leader at all, but his domestic policies aren't the worst I've seen. I don't think Obamacare is the end of the world. I think the economy is recovering pretty steadily. I think wages will start to go up over the next 3 years too.

I'd like to see some more fiscal management. Try to get our debt under control, but that's on Congress right now. They write the budget. If they'd stop ******* around worrying about Planned Parenthood and instead lobbied the American people to find a way to cut spending in a smart way, maybe Congress' approval rating would be higher than 10%.

But god forbid that would happen.
 
Russia says it’s bombing ISIS in Syria. It’s actually bombing their enemies.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/9423229/russia-bombing-isis-syria

Russia began bombing targets in Syria on Wednesday. Russian President Vladimir Putin has framed his military intervention there as targeting terrorist groups, especially ISIS. And Russia said its strikes today were launched against ISIS.

Don't believe it. The strikes reported this morning aren't happening anywhere near ISIS territory and aren't actually hitting ISIS positions, as a look at the following map from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) should make clear. In fact, Russia is bombing ISIS's enemies in the Syrian opposition — which makes a lot more sense if you understand what Russia is really trying to accomplish.

According to ISW researcher Genevieve Casagrande, a Russian airstrike this morning appears to have hit Talbiseh, a town in the tan rebel-held swatch just north of Homs, in Syria's east. You'll note that this is nowhere near ISIS territory, marked in gray:

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"Talbiseh is home to Syrian al-Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra, hardline Islamist Ahrar al-Sham, and a number of other local rebel groups," Casagrande explains. These organizations are generally hostile to ISIS. "The airstrike," she concludes, "did not hit ISIS militants."

Michael Horowitz, a senior intelligence analyst at the Levantine Group, says that Russia bombed another town near Homs (Zaafarana) and one (Ltamenah) near the city of Hama, north of Homs. Again, as you can see on the map, none of these are near ISIS territory. According to Horowitz, all of the towns are held by non-ISIS groups.

"Russia targeted only groups that are not ISIS and it may have targeted groups backed by the US," Horowitz told BuzzFeed's Borzou Daragahi. "It’s really clear that the airstrikes were not meant to target ISIS."

This shouldn't be surprising. Russia is in Syria to prop up Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, Moscow's ally. The main threat to Assad is not ISIS, which the Syrian leader has often tolerated, but rather Syria's non-ISIS rebels — including al-Qaeda's Syrian franchise as well as more moderate rebel groups. These rebel groups (along with the Kurds in Syria's north) are also ISIS's main enemies in Syria.

"ISIS almost never fought the Assad regime," Glenn Robinson, an associate professor at the Naval Postgraduate School, told me earlier this month. "They were much more focused on fighting other opposition groups and gaining land their opponents had already acquired."

Assad has taken advantage of this, tacitly tolerating ISIS in northeastern Syria while focusing his military efforts on the rebels. This was part of what appeared to be a deliberate strategy to encourage extremism in order to discourage foreign intervention against him.

Both Assad and Putin win, in other words, if the West is forced to choose between Assad and ISIS in Syria. Which is part of why Russian airstrikes appear to be targeting ISIS's enemies in Syria — under the pretext of targeting ISIS.
 
I'm no super fan of Obama and I love Ayn Rand books but that graph since 2008 is acceptable to me.

I wanted a better policy abroad and I don't think he's a good foreign leader at all, but his domestic policies aren't the worst I've seen. I don't think Obamacare is the end of the world. I think the economy is recovering pretty steadily. I think wages will start to go up over the next 3 years too.

I'd like to see some more fiscal management. Try to get our debt under control, but that's on Congress right now. They write the budget. If they'd stop ******* around worrying about Planned Parenthood and instead lobbied the American people to find a way to cut spending in a smart way, maybe Congress' approval rating would be higher than 10%.

But god forbid that would happen.

Obama has bitched about sequestration every chance he gets. His budget hasn't received ONE single vote in all these years. He has no concern about the budget because if he did he wouldn't be bitching about not spending enough on everything. Congress can't do anything without his signature. Blaming them is just short sighted. That graph is also bullshit. The dems are the ones that forced the banks to loan money to people that couldn't afford it. They are also the ones who wouldn't do anything to reign in fanny or Freddie. Bush even sent people to congress to tell them what was coming and they did ****. So Obama pouring money into the market isn't impressive.

On top of that the number of people working is around 1977 levels. The unemployment rate is total bull ****. It doesn't count people that have fallen out of the work force.
 
Or as you and your Tea Party brethren want us to believe. But it's a bunch of bullshit, simple as that. Wreck the system? Socialist utopia? You guys have got to put down your Ayn Rand books, go outside and get some fresh air.


Obama-numbers.jpg

Burgundy beat me to it. That's all the result of a "Watered" stock market as a result of the Fed pumping out dollars in a round of "Quantative Easing".
 
Funny how you guys regurgitate so much bullshit and just pass it back and forth...

140923160247-bombed-countries-obama-story-top.jpg


America's wartime president
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/23/opinion/bergen-obama-wartime-president/

Quick: Which U.S. president has authorized wars of various kinds in seven Muslim countries?

If you guessed Barack Hussein Obama, you are correct.

As it turned out, Obama was one of the most militarily aggressive American presidents in decades, authorizing military operations of various kinds in seven Muslim countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and, now, Syria.

Consider that he mandated a threefold increase in the number of American troops in Afghanistan, from 30,000 soldiers at the end of the Bush administration to 90,000, a surge of troops that played a critical role in blunting the Taliban's momentum, which had gathered strength in the final years of Bush's second term.

Consider that under Bush there were 48 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan. Under Obama there have been 328, which have killed some two-dozen al Qaeda commanders, according to a count by New America.

Consider that under Bush there was only one CIA drone strike in Yemen. Under Obama there have been 99 drone strikes and 15 airstrikes, which have killed more than three-dozen of the group's senior operatives there.

Obama is also the first American president to authorize the assassination of a United States citizen, the New Mexico-born al Qaeda operational commander Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed in Yemen in a drone strike in 2011.

The same year Obama initiated the alliance that overthrew the Libyan dictator, Moammar Gadhafi.

Obama has also waged an effective covert war in Somalia against the al Qaeda affiliate based there, Al-Shabaab, whose leader, Ahmed Godane, was killed in a U.S. airstrike earlier this month.

And Obama, of course, also authorized the risky U.S. Navy SEAL mission that killed al Qaeda's founder, Osama bin Laden, in 2011 in Abbottabad, a city deep inside Pakistan.

This is not the record of someone who is afraid to use American power, as his critics would have it, but rather a president who is comfortable exercising American hard power even in a country like Syria, where he has launched a war without the kinds of specific international or congressional authorizations other presidents have sought since World War II.

did they give him the Nobel Peace Prize because they knew he would only bomb Arabs and brown people?
 
I'm no super fan of Obama and I love Ayn Rand books but that graph since 2008 is acceptable to me.

I wanted a better policy abroad and I don't think he's a good foreign leader at all, but his domestic policies aren't the worst I've seen. I don't think Obamacare is the end of the world. I think the economy is recovering pretty steadily. I think wages will start to go up over the next 3 years too.

I'd like to see some more fiscal management. Try to get our debt under control, but that's on Congress right now. They write the budget. If they'd stop ******* around worrying about Planned Parenthood and instead lobbied the American people to find a way to cut spending in a smart way, maybe Congress' approval rating would be higher than 10%.

But god forbid that would happen.

It wasn't Obamma. It was The Bernanke.

What happens when interest rates go up???
 
- were not against ISIS, but they hit Syrian rebel troops (our allies fighting Assad) in Homs, western Syria.

Barry's meeting with Vlad the other day at the UN went exceedingly well, I see.
Seriously, Putin knows he can do whatever he wants. Bammy is a eunich.
 
I put my money on Putin


Iran troops to join Syria war, Russia bombs group trained by CIA

Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria to join a major ground offensive on behalf of President Bashar al-Assad's government, Lebanese sources said on Thursday, a further step in the rapid internationalization of a civil war in which every major country in the region has a stake.

Russian warplanes that joined the fight this week bombed a camp run by rebels trained by the CIA, the group's commander said, putting Moscow and Washington on opposing sides in a Middle East conflict for the first time since the Cold War.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/02/us-mideast-crisis-russia-syria-idUSKCN0RV41O20151002
 
Putin all the way


Iraqi prime minister says he would ‘welcome’ Russian airstrikes in Iraq

As Moscow deepens its military involvement in the region, Iraq appears to be increasingly looking east for assistance in its fight against Islamic State extremists, with Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi indicating Thursday that he would welcome a Russian bombing campaign.

The U.S.-led coalition has been bombing Islamic State targets in Iraq for more than a year, but Iraqi officials have repeatedly complained that the efforts are insufficient to decisively turn back the militants. The United States has spent more than $25 billion to train and equip Iraq’s military, but Abadi’s comments Thursday were the latest indication that the country is increasingly seeking support from other partners — particularly traditional U.S. rivals Russia and Iran.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...77cf3c-684b-11e5-8325-a42b5a459b1e_story.html
 
Hillary Clinton calls for no-fly zone in Syria

In an apparent break with the Obama White House, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton called for the creation of a no-fly zone inside Syria Thursday, the day after Russian warplanes started bombing rebels fighting the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

“I personally would be advocating now for a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air, to try to provide some way to take stock of what’s happening, to try to stem the flow of refugees,” Clinton said

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-calls-no-fly-zones-syria
 
Hillary Clinton calls for no-fly zone in Syria

In an apparent break with the Obama White House, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton called for the creation of a no-fly zone inside Syria Thursday, the day after Russian warplanes started bombing rebels fighting the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

“I personally would be advocating now for a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air, to try to provide some way to take stock of what’s happening, to try to stem the flow of refugees,” Clinton said

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-calls-no-fly-zones-syria

Typical soft-*** liberal pansy.
 
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