Ol hindsight is a ************. Steelers tend to go BPA at high areas of need. For better or worse.
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that was definitely for worse. He wasn't even the BPA for the need. Oh well. . . spilled milk.
But but,,,,. The pedigree
You gonna say the same thing about Tom Brady in the 2000 draft when every single team passed over him multiple times? The draft is based on potential and NEED. We did not NEED a QB in that draft. We needed defense to compete with the Cheats
or any starting QB
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I’m not sold on Edmunds and never liked that we drafted him in first round. Most scouting reports had a much later round projection on him. To me he’s very average which is what I’d expect from a middle round pick and not a first round one.
As for Lamar, he was drafted with building the offense completely around him. It’s a run first mentality which will eventually catch up with him, and it’s safe passes with in conjunction with his running ability makes him look even better than he is.
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As for Lamar, he was drafted with building the offense completely around him. It’s a run first mentality which will eventually catch up with him, and it’s safe passes with in conjunction with his running ability makes him look even better than he is.
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If Ben was healthy, but not having a great year, then they'd STILL think that Mason had a shot at being the predecessor in the near future, but as things have worked out, it's clear he isn't. Knowing this, doesn't change the fact that they weren't ever going to take Lamar. Sure, we see the need now, but they firmly believed they had something in Rudolph. Defensive back was a clear need and agree or not, was what they graded out as more of an immediate solution. Next year, QB, in some form or fashion, be it FA or draft, will be higher on their radar.
Now they would be wise to go back to BPA in the draft - offense OT/OG/WR/RB and FB.
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And we have a winner - when all is said and done, it comes down to coaching and adapting your system to the players you have.
The steelers didnt build an offense around Big Ben???
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Did you know the Steelers had a first round grade on Rudolph.
Unreal.On Jackson, I did not see his early success coming. He's very dim witted, and not a top passer. He's in a system with a top defense and special teams that is working, but like many mobile QB;s who are not good passers, the NFL will catch up to them soon, or they will get Injured.
Vince Young, was similar to Jackson with his legs and mind. He has some early success, then....
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I agree, the Ravens have MUCH better coaching. But what makes you certain Edumunds would not have slipped in round two? Most pundits felt he was over drafted.
I had a 3rd round grade on Edmunds. He could have very well have been there in round 2 for us. And he would be a disappointment if he was a 2nd round pick. Reid, and Bates, two guys I liked are better.
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If only there was a way back machine or deep archives on this forum
I hated ALL FOUR picks. It would be a chuckle to see those who blasted me for saying they were not good picks. Wink.
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"It's not about getting the best players. It's about getting the right players." Herb Brooks said that. All he did was take down a 20 year world dominating behemoth. Maybe the Steelers didn't think Reid or Bates fit for them. I guess they should have called you.
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They did but right now we don't have Big Ben. If we would have drafted Jackson do you think we would have adjusted our offense around him or tried to have him execute Ben's plays?
If they did it for Ben why wouldnt they do it for Jackson? Mason had been in the shotgun offense since high school so how much change did they have to make for him. Duck also has been in the shotgun since high school.. So they both are probably pretty familiar with the things the Steelers were already doing. Mason issues seem to be processing what he is seeing quickly enough. He doesnt ..
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he struggled last year because the offense was option-light. He threw against more real NFL coverage schemes and couldn't do it. This year they are all in on an option attack and he is not seeing any tough coverages. The reads are easy and well defined. Just look at how open most of his guys are on these pass plays.
This is pretty much what Kap's 1 good year looked like.
The big adjustment defense made toward the end of Kaps 1 good season, was to just hit Kap on every play. I'm surprised nobody has done that with Jackson yet. Screw the pitch. You hit Jackson every single play. When the QB ball fakes, he is eligible to be hit.
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It's funny you bring up Miracle. I was thinking of that movie regarding the Ravens. It's the scene where the Russians had just beaten and NHL all star team and Brooks is explaining that's because the NHL didn't put in the work to change their style of play to challenge the Russians. America put in the work, to match the style and beat them.
That happens a lot when a new player or new scheme dominates the NFL. It may take some time, but one game, somebody figures out how to put a stick in the spokes and shut it down.
McVey was a genius last year, but now that scheme has been solved and now they are just another team struggling with subpar QB play. The scheme no longer masking Goff's weaknesses.
How many damn times do we have to see this happen in the NFL before people learn to hold of on declaring young guys the greatest-est evah!!
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If only there was a way back machine or deep archives on this forum
All 4 of those picks were mostly hated, so you were not out on a limb there.
It might be more fun to dig up the Polamalu draft thread.
They were running the ball last year too pretty much doing the same things. In fact they ran more probably
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...-reinvented-their-offense-on-fly?platform=amp
That's an article from last year talking about how they went on their streak by going run heavy. All the passes he missed he is hitting now. And he is also hitting the passes where they ask him to stand in the pocket read the defenses and make the correct read out of empty sets where there is no play fake involved. He has gotten better.
I am encouraged by the effort out defense had against their offense let's me know we can compete with anyone on Defense..going to he interesting to see how we do without Tuitt though. But the talking head seemed to forget last nite we held them without an offensive TD in the first game..
So the better he gets in the pocket they may scale back on all the running they do with him.. like the Seahawks have done with Wilson.
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Yeah, we see things that never were really there...
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You could probably start a whole subcategory, call it "Coach's Corner". When anyone is feeling a little down, go to Coach's Corner for a laugh.
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Top players tend to fit. Exactly how was Edmunds the right player?
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