2016 Draft - What I Would Have Done

[deljzc]

This is my 10th draft of putting together an official "What I Would Have Done" vs. Tombert.

Some times I think I do better, other times not so much. It's close. For the most part, I'm building positions and looking much further out that the Steelers do.

I wanted Jared Gaither in the supplemental draft in the summer of 2007 (a 4th round pick would have gotten him). I wanted to trade up for Michael Oher in 2009 (instead of Evander Hood). We really didn't address the OT position until 2011 (Gilbert).

I was looking at ILB's earlier and NT's earlier.

So it's difficult when I look back and "what I would have done" include trading back and getting Brandon Roby in 2013 (instead of Shazier) and picking Xavier Rhodes in 2014 (instead of Jones).

But here we are. I pick not based on what I did in the past, but what the Steelers actually are.


1-32 Hunter Henry, TE
I would have traded back. No doubt, once William Jackson was selected. No one really on my Steelers-specific board I would have been in love with. I would have taken the Bronco's deal. At 1-32, I think Spence, Billings (who the Steelers obviously had issues with so remove him), Vernon Butler (picked right before this), even Myles Jack would have been in discussion and if Artie Burns is still there, I'd listen to that too. But I've been a fan of Hunter Henry for a while and that's the way I go. I think he's Heath Miller v2.0

2-58 Sean Davis, CB/S
I still look at him like a potential off-man/zone corner for us so I like this pick and am not overriding the War Room. Position of need and it works on my board.

3-89 Justin Simmons, FS
Everyone here liked him including me and we all hoped he would be available in the 3rd round, which he was. We have tons of openings in the secondary on our roster. I pick him.

3-94* Javon Hargrave, DT
If Hargrave lasts 5 more picks, I'm not going to override the draft room. There are lots of choices to me at DT left here if he's gone, including Andrew Billings and Willie Henry. If you guys think Hargrave is gone, then it's Willie Henry as the pick likely since Billings is probably off our board due to medical.

4-123 Rashard Robinson, CB
This was a good target round for this talent, even with his off-field and school issues with Les Miles. I still think there's room on the roster for one more back-end player so I now go into camp with Davis, Simmons and Robinson to look for help. Other options include Hawkins (who I do like) and Kenneth Dixon, RB or Jordan Howard, RB. If there is something REALLY bad in Robinson's interview or background check that we don't know about it's probably stick with the Hawkins pick at OT.

5-164 Moritz Boehringer, WR
If we still had the pick

6-201 Kevon Frazier, SS
If we still had the pick

6-220 Keith Marshall, RB
Too much talent to pass up and we have little depth behind Bell once Williams' contract is up after this year. Plus we have to think Bell might out-price himself in contract negotiations. You never know. I think Feeney is too much of a project, too light and I don't like the history of injured shoulders.

7-229 DeMarcus Ayers, WR
I'm okay with the room and understand the need for a punt return specialist. Can't have Brown doing that anymore except maybe in the playoffs.

7-246 Eric Striker, LB
I'm actually okay with Tyler Matakevich too. These guys are similar prospects. I'm kind of shocked Tomlin didn't like Striker better. He's more the runner-hitter type and might fit the Sean Spence mold in my opinion. I don't think this pick matters either way.

 

[FordFairLane]

#31- Myles Jack LB UCLA
I stay true to my board and looking at who's left I honestly don't see anyone who will start in 2016. I honestly think Burns would still be on the board but I also still don't see him beating out Gay, Cockrell and Grant on the outside and don't think he has the feet to play nickel or dime. So I draft Jack IR him and have him get the Microfracture surgery and plan on him taking over for Timmons in 2017. Not often can you get a top 5 pick with the last pick in the first round. I'm not overly upset with him being injured because as I stated I don't see another player starting year one anyways. And even if healthy I don't think a rookie would start over Timmons probably just play some sub packages.

#58- Carl Nassib DL Penn State
I really do like Sean Davis but I stick with my with my board. Nassib is a poor man's JJ Watt and would help create pressure and be able to play a few different positions. He also will be able to spell Tuitt or Heyward and provide depth.

#89- Justin Simmons S Boston College
Simmons was in the mix for my second round pick but I had Nassib as an early second so I went BPA. Simmons is long, quick, smart, good tackler, takes correct angles, and is a leader.

#98- Andrew Billings DT Baylor
In my opinion this is a good value for a NT. I think he actually fell because he's viewed as a two down player but I feel he can play on passing downs. Definitely surges up the front seven with Jack, Nassib, and Billings.

#123- Deiondre Hall CB Northern Iowa
I'm probably a bigger fan than most but I had Burns, Fuller, and Hall all ranked as second or third round picks. Hall has almost 35" arms, huge hands, big at 6-2. He's a bit of a long strider like Sherman but has good long speed.

#164- Cole Toner OT Harvard
I look at Toner and he probably has no real trainer or nutritionist to help him with his strength and conditioning but he tested better than expected. I feel he could ad functional weight, quicken up, and has the brains to learn the several offensive positions all at the same time. Maybe in a season or two we have a starter but I feel he'd be a very nice back up from the get go. He really would fit into the zone blocking system and I think Munchak would work wonders with him.

#201- Elandon Roberts LB Houston
Too much speed and talent to pass up at this point. Would be a year one special teams monster and I feel could get on the field on some sub packages. Maybe he shows enough we don't sign Timmons to another monster contract.

#220- Travis Feeney LB Washington
Feeney is a quick twitched athlete with good college production. He definitely has to get stronger and I was leaning towards Stephen Weatherly but decided to go with the Steelers on this one.

#229- Keith Marshall RB Georgia
Went with a homerun hitting RB. Bell hasn't proved he can stay healthy, Williams is 32, and I feel Marshall has elite speed.

#246- Keyarris Garrett WR Tulsa
Big bodied long strider who is a mismatch with most CBs.

 

[deljzc]

You'r picking two guys that were probably off our board for medical reasons (Jack and Billings). That's a tough call to make over doctors that could care less about talent and fit.

I agree Jack as a potential replacement to Timmons is very tempting and I wouldn't mind that at all.

Any time you're dealing with Microfracture surgery however could just end his career. It's like a 25% chance of not working.

 

[FordFairLane]

I really didn't know much about microfracture surgery until Myles Jack. From what I ready it's 75%-80% successful but the biggest reason the 20%-25% aren't is because it is so non evasive that your knee feels fine but you still HAVE to keep in immobile for 8 weeks. Then you have a very specific non impact rehab regimen you have to follow. And again the whole time you knee feels like you can go for a run without a problem. All in all it takes 6-12 months to be 100%. It's a risk I know but so is any draft pick and before the injury Jack was one of the surest things coming out of college. So I guess it's a gamble but with the last pick of the first round I go ahead and take it. I also double down on Robert later for insurance.

Billings is a free pick so-to-speak as it's the pick we received from Denver via the trade. I never really liked Billings at #25 but at the end of the third with a pick I traded for I go for it. This pushes McCullers also to step it up. I know we only lost 30%-35% of our defensive snaps at NT when McLendon left but still it's a 350 snaps a year we need to fill.

 

[bermudasteel]

Neither list has Jake Coker on it...

 

[Coach]

My draft grades, and who I would have taken

This is my annual draft grades. It includes a grade for need, a grade for value in the round, and a grade for what type of player I think he will be in the NFL, and my comment on who I would have selected.

Those who throw rocks should post their own draft, explaining who they would have selected. But they won't 90% of the time.

**Since the Steelers were offered a 3rd round pick to trade down with Denver, I'm taking it. ***


Round one. Cornerback Burns. Grade for Need A. Grade for value in the Round C+. Grade for what type of player I think he will be in the NFL B-

I have seen him play live. Burns is big and fast but very raw. Good ball skills when he sees the pass coming his way. On the minus side, he has no clue in the zone, and tackling is not a good tackler. He's flag prone as well. Here's the thing, we are talking about a 20-year-old, so it very hard to see whether he can fill his upside or not. He could get bigger and stronger, and learn. But I think he's a slow learning type and could have used another year in college. An athlete playing cornerback if you will. Put him in zone, or off man, and he's struggling. His technique is non-existent. Burns is further away from NFL ready than most first round picks.

*** Who I would have taken. Give me Denver's 31st pick and their third *** I would have liked to see all the trade offers, but this one was the most confirmed.

My pick here was Billings until his knee became an issue. So I'm taking the best corner on the board in Xavien Howard. He's big, worked out even better than Burns did in many drills, and has two solid years of production as opposed to Bruns one.

Round two. Saftey Lewis. Grade for Need A. Grade for Value in the round B- Grade for what type of player I think he will be in the NFL C+

While Davis checks many boxes for height, speed, and combine drills, I question his man cover skills. He's best as a classic in the box hitting type of safety who can force fumbles. Davis should be a very good kick coverage person. The trouble is the NFL demands safeties to cover well. Davis is flag prone 4 pass interference calls was flagged for a late hit and a personal foul. More worrisome is he gave up 10 touchdowns last season. He was ripped for 614 passing yards against last season and missed too many tackles. Too many minuses here in coverage. Not a fan of this pick, and I'll say we could have done much better in round two.

My pick. OLB/DL Nassib He lead the nation in sacks, tackles for losses, and forced fumbles, and beat a decent group of tackles during the senior bowl week. Such a player can replace Jones at OLB, and add a lot of value in our 4 man fronts, which we play far more than our 3 man line. Nassib was in several of my mocks. He can explode after the snap and hand use are impressive.



Round three. Defensive Tackle / Nose Tackle Hargrave. Grade for Need B+, Grade for value in the round B. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL B-

If we ran a 4-3 system, Hargrave would project nicely as a 3 technique type of player. He's very quick for his size, with some moves and a motor. The knock on him is he did it vs weak competition, however, I see him as a very good sub-package type or 4 man front type of player who can be disruptive vs the run or pass in the NFL. As a pure Nose Tackle, I think he'll have issues holding his own, and isn't the type to hold up vs double teams. Not a bad pick at all for round three.

My pick, Nose Tackle / Defensive Tackle Ridgeway. He's much bigger and much better at run defense. Also disruptive vs the run and pass, with the ability to make tackles vs the run, pressure the QB or sacks vs the QB. Ridgeway was in some of my mocks.


Round three, Denver's pick. Saftey Simmons.

Simmons is tall ( 6'2" ) , rangy, and has fine ball skills. While he is not fast, his 20-yard shuttle is perhaps the best I have seen. I think Simmons is an ideal zone or cover 2 type of safety, with the height, compete for jump balls. Likely good in the red zone as well vs fade passes. Reports indicate he should be a good who special teams player. I wouldn't give him too many deep men responsibilities but if properly deployed, I think he can make his share of plays.

Round four. Offensive Tackle, Hawkins. Grade for Need B, Grade for Value in the Round C+. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL C-, likely off the teams in 4 years and a backup while he's here. If this was a round three pick, I'd say BUST.

Hawkins is tall with long arms, but I see some issues. He's has a narrow type of build, and isn't a knee bender. I think will have issues anchoring vs. Bull rushes in the NFL. His lateral agility concerns me as well ( Poor 20 yard shuffle time ), so speed rushers will expose him. A right tackle only types who needs to get stronger.

My pick. OT/G McGovern. Can play either RT or G. Super strong and a decent athlete with short area quickness. Alert to stunts and twists. An ideal guard, who could play Right Tackle in a pinch.


Round 5. Pick traded for Cornerback Boykin, who Tomlin hardly played. I liked the trade, but frown upon playing Boykin so little. A wasted pick. Grade for this move D.


Round six. Pick traded for kicker Scobee. I hated this move. It was a fiasco. Grade F.


Round six, comp pick. Outside linebacker Feeney. Grade for value A. Grade for Need B+. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL. C+

Feeney is tall, fast ( 4.5 40 ) and productive with a good amount of sacks at tackle for losses. He is on the thin side, but at 6'4" can add more weight to his frame without getting fat. He isn't strong enough to hold the point of attack vs. the run at all. He's also had some injury issues with his shoulders. Feeney can be a nice role player as a pass rusher or special teams person. Best spot would be a weakside in a 4-3, however, he's fast enough to play in our nickel, and as a former safety, he could fit. Decent pick for round six.

Who I would have taken. Same player. OLB Feeney.


Round seven, comp pick. WR/ Kick return man Ayers. Value for round C. Value for Need B-. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL D.

Ayers looks to be a camp cut or practice squad player. While the Steelers need a return man, Ayers ran a 4.72 at the combine and a 4.66 at his pro day. At 5'9" and 182 pounds, these are reject numbers for the NFL. You want your return man or slot receiver to be much faster than this.

My pick would have been kick returner / wide receiver, WR Fuller. Fuller is 6 foot tall and ran a 4.39. He's a slot guy and return man. In college, he averaged 24.2 on kickoffs and almost 12 yards per punt return.



Round seven. Inside linebacker, Matakevich. Grade for need B. Grade for value in the round A. What type of NFL player do I think he will be B-

This is an excellent 7th round pick. Matakevich is a decorated college player. A tackling machine who also found a way to intercept 5 passes. He's a little slow ( 4.81 40 ) and a little short, however, his smarts and intangibles test off the charts, which are traits needed at inside linebacker. Matakevich had a nice senior bowl. Should be a contributor to special teams and solid NFL backup. I'd compare him a bit to Larry Foote, another short and slow type who had a fine career.

My pick here is the same player


My draft

Round 1 ) CB Howard - 2 quality seasons, better workout #'s, better vs the run

Round 2 ) OLB/DL Nassib - The best pass rusher in college last year, with some upside, and fine vs the run

Round 3 ) NT/DT Ridgeway - A beast vs the run, but some three-down ability vs the pass.

Round 3 ) S Simmons - Tall, smart and productive safety

Round 4 ) OT/G McGovern - Swing ability to play guard or right tackle. Super strong, with upside to fill

Round 6 ) OLB Feeney - A speedy pass rusher, who should also do very well on special teams.

Round 6 ) KR/WR Fuller - Tall and fast with production as a kickoff man and punt return man.

Round 7 ) Matakevich - Productive with high character and ability to back up or play special teams.


Some thoughts on the Steeler's draft. While the Steelers went for need in rounds one and two, they picked some raw players who need a lot of time and coaching. There is a danger when you do this. Our ability to develop DB's has not been great as of late.

If Burns is a bust, the Steelers will have spent a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 3rd on corners in the past two years...and likely won't pick CB high again until it's proven that Burns wasn't a good pick. For the record, I think Golson is a slot corner only and question his size and ability to match up vs bigger players. Not a fan of how his game projects in the NFL.

This is worrisome as Gay is getting older, and the pass defense gave up 29TD's and ranked 29th overall, benefiting greatly from playing 7 backup QB's. Ben might only have 2-3 more elite level seasons left and need a pass defense that won't get burned for yardage and touchdowns. The pass rush from the linebacker position needs a boost as Jones is a disappointment and Harrison very old.

I'd rather take more NFL ready and productive players at CB and S, and go for a pass rusher with some NFL upside. Not a huge fan of this draft overall.

 

[ZACKB]

Xavier Howard stinks...

 

[CoolieMan]

Ayers was running with a broken hand, it hurt his take off and made his times slower. watch his highlights, that is not a 4.6-4.7 player.

 

[Stryker]

Ayers was running with a broken hand, it hurt his take off and made his times slower. watch his highlights, that is not a 4.6-4.7 player.

I'm with you Coolie. His 40 time scared me, then I watched his game tape. He's at least a 4.5 guy. Could be high 4.4s as well. Doesn't have elite speed, but his change of direction is great, and his speed is not accurately timed at the combine or pro day.

 

[chipped ham]

This is my annual draft grades. It includes a grade for need, a grade for value in the round, and a grade for what type of player I think he will be in the NFL, and my comment on who I would have selected.

Those who throw rocks should post their own draft, explaining who they would have selected. But they won't 90% of the time.

**Since the Steelers were offered a 3rd round pick to trade down with Denver, I'm taking it. ***


Round one. Cornerback Burns. Grade for Need A. Grade for value in the Round C+. Grade for what type of player I think he will be in the NFL B-

I have seen him play live. Burns is big and fast but very raw. Good ball skills when he sees the pass coming his way. On the minus side, he has no clue in the zone, and tackling is not a good tackler. He's flag prone as well. Here's the thing, we are talking about a 20-year-old, so it very hard to see whether he can fill his upside or not. He could get bigger and stronger, and learn. But I think he's a slow learning type and could have used another year in college. An athlete playing cornerback if you will. Put him in zone, or off man, and he's struggling. His technique is non-existent. Burns is further away from NFL ready than most first round picks.

*** Who I would have taken. Give me Denver's 31st pick and their third *** I would have liked to see all the trade offers, but this one was the most confirmed.

My pick here was Billings until his knee became an issue. So I'm taking the best corner on the board in Xavien Howard. He's big, worked out even better than Burns did in many drills, and has two solid years of production as opposed to Bruns one.

Round two. Saftey Lewis. Grade for Need A. Grade for Value in the round B- Grade for what type of player I think he will be in the NFL C+

While Davis checks many boxes for height, speed, and combine drills, I question his man cover skills. He's best as a classic in the box hitting type of safety who can force fumbles. Davis should be a very good kick coverage person. The trouble is the NFL demands safeties to cover well. Davis is flag prone 4 pass interference calls was flagged for a late hit and a personal foul. More worrisome is he gave up 10 touchdowns last season. He was ripped for 614 passing yards against last season and missed too many tackles. Too many minuses here in coverage. Not a fan of this pick, and I'll say we could have done much better in round two.

My pick. OLB/DL Nassib He lead the nation in sacks, tackles for losses, and forced fumbles, and beat a decent group of tackles during the senior bowl week. Such a player can replace Jones at OLB, and add a lot of value in our 4 man fronts, which we play far more than our 3 man line. Nassib was in several of my mocks. He can explode after the snap and hand use are impressive.



Round three. Defensive Tackle / Nose Tackle Hargrave. Grade for Need B+, Grade for value in the round B. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL B-

If we ran a 4-3 system, Hargrave would project nicely as a 3 technique type of player. He's very quick for his size, with some moves and a motor. The knock on him is he did it vs weak competition, however, I see him as a very good sub-package type or 4 man front type of player who can be disruptive vs the run or pass in the NFL. As a pure Nose Tackle, I think he'll have issues holding his own, and isn't the type to hold up vs double teams. Not a bad pick at all for round three.

My pick, Nose Tackle / Defensive Tackle Ridgeway. He's much bigger and much better at run defense. Also disruptive vs the run and pass, with the ability to make tackles vs the run, pressure the QB or sacks vs the QB. Ridgeway was in some of my mocks.


Round three, Denver's pick. Saftey Simmons.

Simmons is tall ( 6'2" ) , rangy, and has fine ball skills. While he is not fast, his 20-yard shuttle is perhaps the best I have seen. I think Simmons is an ideal zone or cover 2 type of safety, with the height, compete for jump balls. Likely good in the red zone as well vs fade passes. Reports indicate he should be a good who special teams player. I wouldn't give him too many deep men responsibilities but if properly deployed, I think he can make his share of plays.

Round four. Offensive Tackle, Hawkins. Grade for Need B, Grade for Value in the Round C+. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL C-, likely off the teams in 4 years and a backup while he's here. If this was a round three pick, I'd say BUST.

Hawkins is tall with long arms, but I see some issues. He's has a narrow type of build, and isn't a knee bender. I think will have issues anchoring vs. Bull rushes in the NFL. His lateral agility concerns me as well ( Poor 20 yard shuffle time ), so speed rushers will expose him. A right tackle only types who needs to get stronger.

My pick. OT/G McGovern. Can play either RT or G. Super strong and a decent athlete with short area quickness. Alert to stunts and twists. An ideal guard, who could play Right Tackle in a pinch.


Round 5. Pick traded for Cornerback Boykin, who Tomlin hardly played. I liked the trade, but frown upon playing Boykin so little. A wasted pick. Grade for this move D.


Round six. Pick traded for kicker Scobee. I hated this move. It was a fiasco. Grade F.


Round six, comp pick. Outside linebacker Feeney. Grade for value A. Grade for Need B+. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL. C+

Feeney is tall, fast ( 4.5 40 ) and productive with a good amount of sacks at tackle for losses. He is on the thin side, but at 6'4" can add more weight to his frame without getting fat. He isn't strong enough to hold the point of attack vs. the run at all. He's also had some injury issues with his shoulders. Feeney can be a nice role player as a pass rusher or special teams person. Best spot would be a weakside in a 4-3, however, he's fast enough to play in our nickel, and as a former safety, he could fit. Decent pick for round six.

Who I would have taken. Same player. OLB Feeney.


Round seven, comp pick. WR/ Kick return man Ayers. Value for round C. Value for Need B-. What type of player I think he will be in the NFL D.

Ayers looks to be a camp cut or practice squad player. While the Steelers need a return man, Ayers ran a 4.72 at the combine and a 4.66 at his pro day. At 5'9" and 182 pounds, these are reject numbers for the NFL. You want your return man or slot receiver to be much faster than this.

My pick would have been kick returner / wide receiver, WR Fuller. Fuller is 6 foot tall and ran a 4.39. He's a slot guy and return man. In college, he averaged 24.2 on kickoffs and almost 12 yards per punt return.



Round seven. Inside linebacker, Matakevich. Grade for need B. Grade for value in the round A. What type of NFL player do I think he will be B-

This is an excellent 7th round pick. Matakevich is a decorated college player. A tackling machine who also found a way to intercept 5 passes. He's a little slow ( 4.81 40 ) and a little short, however, his smarts and intangibles test off the charts, which are traits needed at inside linebacker. Matakevich had a nice senior bowl. Should be a contributor to special teams and solid NFL backup. I'd compare him a bit to Larry Foote, another short and slow type who had a fine career.

My pick here is the same player


My draft

Round 1 ) CB Howard - 2 quality seasons, better workout #'s, better vs the run

Round 2 ) OLB/DL Nassib - The best pass rusher in college last year, with some upside, and fine vs the run

Round 3 ) NT/DT Ridgeway - A beast vs the run, but some three-down ability vs the pass.

Round 3 ) S Simmons - Tall, smart and productive safety

Round 4 ) OT/G McGovern - Swing ability to play guard or right tackle. Super strong, with upside to fill

Round 6 ) OLB Feeney - A speedy pass rusher, who should also do very well on special teams.

Round 6 ) KR/WR Fuller - Tall and fast with production as a kickoff man and punt return man.

Round 7 ) Matakevich - Productive with high character and ability to back up or play special teams.


Some thoughts on the Steeler's draft. While the Steelers went for need in rounds one and two, they picked some raw players who need a lot of time and coaching. There is a danger when you do this. Our ability to develop DB's has not been great as of late.

If Burns is a bust, the Steelers will have spent a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 3rd on corners in the past two years...and likely won't pick CB high again until it's proven that Burns wasn't a good pick. For the record, I think Golson is a slot corner only and question his size and ability to match up vs bigger players. Not a fan of how his game projects in the NFL.

This is worrisome as Gay is getting older, and the pass defense gave up 29TD's and ranked 29th overall, benefiting greatly from playing 7 backup QB's. Ben might only have 2-3 more elite level seasons left and need a pass defense that won't get burned for yardage and touchdowns. The pass rush from the linebacker position needs a boost as Jones is a disappointment and Harrison very old.

I'd rather take more NFL ready and productive players at CB and S, and go for a pass rusher with some NFL upside. Not a huge fan of this draft overall.

You keep using Davis' stats as a cornerback to justify him being a poor safety. This is a true head scratcher because the kid is not going to be a cornerback. Also, while I know a lot were pretty high on Nassib, you also refuse to acknowledge that he too is a very raw player and has 1 year of college production. You can't use that argument to say that Burns is going to be a bust and then refuse to call Nassib rough around the edges. I seem to remember the Steeers using an early pick on a player who led the nation in sacks, tfl's, and forced fumbles and he has 3 career sacks. College production doesn't always translate.

 

[AggieSteel]

I'm glad others are mentioning Keith Marshall.. I was very disappointed we kept passing on him. He has game breaking speed and actually has reasonable size for an NFL RB

 

[Tibs]

Bear with me here, this will seem a little unorthodox. First off, no trading down, that's just dumb, can't live in our fantasies. So I went through each round and weighed the pros and cons of all the players available compared to our needs and depth chart considerations heading into the season. I spent hours pouring over each available player's pre-draft data, measurables, on field perfomance, combine, personal background, scouting reports and game tape.

I broke it all down, then built it back up again.

I believe in earnest I grabbed a guy with each and every pick that 1. was the best fit for us, and 2. represented the best value for that round.

Alas, my 2016 Steelers re-draft:

1 25 Artie Burns CB Miami
2 58 Sean Davis S Maryland
3 89 Javon Hargrave DT South Carolina State
4 123 Jerald Hawkins OT LSU
6 220 Travis Feeney OLB Washington
7 229 Demarcus Ayers WR Houston
7 246 Tyler Matakevich OLB Temple

 

[steel shinin]

Xavier Howard stinks...

I agree that guy is a penalty machine. He's aggressive I'll give him that but he gets beat and just grabs people.

 

[slashsteel]

Bear with me here, this will seem a little unorthodox. First off, no trading down, that's just dumb, can't live in our fantasies. So I went through each round and weighed the pros and cons of all the players available compared to our needs and depth chart considerations heading into the season. I spent hours pouring over each available player's pre-draft data, measurables, on field perfomance, combine, personal background, scouting reports and game tape.

I broke it all down, then built it back up again.

I believe in earnest I grabbed a guy with each and every pick that 1. was the best fit for us, and 2. represented the best value for that round.

Alas, my 2016 Steelers re-draft:

1 25 Artie Burns CB Miami
2 58 Sean Davis S Maryland
3 89 Javon Hargrave DT South Carolina State
4 123 Jerald Hawkins OT LSU
6 220 Travis Feeney OLB Washington
7 229 Demarcus Ayers WR Houston
7 246 Tyler Matakevich OLB Temple

if only the Steelers would listen !

 

[Coach]

You keep using Davis' stats as a cornerback to justify him being a poor safety. This is a true head scratcher because the kid is not going to be a cornerback. Also, while I know a lot were pretty high on Nassib, you also refuse to acknowledge that he too is a very raw player and has 1 year of college production. You can't use that argument to say that Burns is going to be a bust and then refuse to call Nassib rough around the edges. I seem to remember the Steeers using an early pick on a player who led the nation in sacks, tfl's, and forced fumbles and he has 3 career sacks. College production doesn't always translate.

Nassib has good technique. Burns does not. Naissib loves football and gives tremendous effort. burns said he focused on track and it delayed his football development. Nassib is smart. Burns plays well no so smart.

There is a difference. I would also say Nassib played better competition. Furthermore burns played a lower percentage of snaps last year

Now for Davis. He gave up too many yards, Td's and penalties. tackling for Davis can be an issue. He has a hitting mentality. I'd rather have a better coverage person that makes less mistakes. I think Davis will have a rough transition to the nfl based on his flaws and style

 

[MTC]

Davis can be similar to Ryan Clark. If he gives up too many yards and loves to hit. Play him a bit more back so when the ball connects to the reveiver. Davis can play to his strengths. It worked for Clark

 

[slashsteel]

Nassib has good technique. Burns does not. Naissib loves football and gives tremendous effort. burns said he focused on track and it delayed his football development. Nassib is smart. Burns plays well no so smart.

There is a difference. I would also say Nassib played better competition. Furthermore burns played a lower percentage of snaps last year

Now for Davis. He gave up too many yards, Td's and penalties. tackling for Davis can be an issue. He has a hitting mentality. I'd rather have a better coverage person that makes less mistakes. I think Davis will have a rough transition to the nfl based on his flaws and style[/QUOTE]

Steelers will play him at SS

not corner


so if you eval him off tape, which yinz will probably stick to your reading material

go back to when he was at S

because that is where the Steelers will play him not at corner

this is my tutorial for yinz


learn


hi

 

[SteelerSask2]

I'm good with your board Del, except that TE Green was the Steelers highest profile FA and I don't dislike Jesse James. If they would have went out and spend on a corner or a safety then I would have been good with your strategy. But they defiantly needed to cover two major holes DB (safety/corner) and TE.

 

[slashsteel]

I'm good with your board Del, except that TE Green was the Steelers highest profile FA and I don't dislike Jesse James. If they would have went out and spend on a corner or a safety then I would have been good with your strategy. But they defiantly needed to cover two major holes DB (safety/corner) and TE.

big risk with depth at S and CB being inexperienced

 

[MTC]

big risk with depth at S and CB being inexperienced

Coaches are gonna have to tough them up for training camp. Idk, I think Burns will be starting at the end of the season. Just a feeling

 

[chipped ham]

Nassib has good technique. Burns does not. Naissib loves football and gives tremendous effort. burns said he focused on track and it delayed his football development. Nassib is smart. Burns plays well no so smart.

There is a difference. I would also say Nassib played better competition. Furthermore burns played a lower percentage of snaps last year

Now for Davis. He gave up too many yards, Td's and penalties. tackling for Davis can be an issue. He has a hitting mentality. I'd rather have a better coverage person that makes less mistakes. I think Davis will have a rough transition to the nfl based on his flaws and style

His technique is so good that he missed a good amount of tackles last year and found himself out of position numerous times. This also lead to him trying to make too many plays from the ground. hes also a reach and grab tackler. Sure, a high motor is nice in a player, but even Jarvis Jones tries hard.

And, again, Davis played cornerback last year and will be employed as a safety for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

 

[CorpusDsteelers]

His heads to big

 

[deljzc]

I'm good with your board Del, except that TE Green was the Steelers highest profile FA and I don't dislike Jesse James. If they would have went out and spend on a corner or a safety then I would have been good with your strategy. But they defiantly needed to cover two major holes DB (safety/corner) and TE.

I would think if we drafted Hunter Henry, the odd man out is probably 33 year old Spaeth.

In my opinion, they could have kept Mike Adams if they really wanted a 6th in-line OL because that's all Spaeth does for us anyhows. Or keep Spaeth and only 8 offensive lineman. Doesn't matter to me really.