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Myles Garrett traded to the Rams?!?!

And tge risk for the Rams is pretty big too.. non contention Browns spent years just trying to let Garrett stat up because what else was gonna get butts in seats there? ... Garrett has been a super entitled abd immature player thus far... a system change that doesnt center around him may not be great... think AB after he left here..
 
Steeltime said:
For some of the older fans here, a bit of George Allen - and it's working. Helps to have a coach like McVay running the offense. Rams under McVay, 92-57, 10-6 in playoffs, 2 SB appearances, 1 SB title.
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Pffft... has he ever had a losing season???











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ZonaBurgh said:
Maybe, but how many QB1's have they drafted in the last 20 years?
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Five. But, they started 42 QB's since they re-entered the league in 1999.

1. Tim Couch
2. Brady Quinn
3. Brandon Weeden
4. Johnny Manziel
5. Baker Mayfield

The Steelers have drafted 2 and started 17 during the same time period.

Cleveland IS THE factory of sadness.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Maybe, but how many QB1's have they drafted in the last 20 years?
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Since '99, 1st round QBs for the Clowns :
1) Couch
2) Quinn
3) Manziel
4) Mayfield
Your point is well noted. ;)

But outside looking in, seems like correct business move for Clowns.
Garrett will be 31 midway through this upcoming season.
Verse is a full 5 years younger, and the Browns get 1 day one pick and 2 day two picks.

I love TJ and would love nothing more than to see him win a SB wearing black n gold.
But living here in reality and the business of football and trying to get number 7?
Knowing what I know as I sit here and type this?
I couldn't pull the trigger fast enough if Rams offered exact same package for TJ.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
This makes the Rams pick of Ty Simpson even dumber. They make this aggressive move but then they wasted this year's #1 on a guy they don't plan on playing for 3 years.

Trade looks good on paper for the browns but in real life, they downgraded at DE. Verse is good but he's not a potential game wrecker like Garrett. This trade only works if the Browns are able to get their QB next year.
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For their careers, Garrett will go down as the better player. No argument here.
But from week one of the upcoming season going forward, Verse is going to play more games and better stats than Garrett.
Rams get instant payoff, Browns attempt to build for the future.......again.
 
slashsteel said:
Garrett wanted out for so long. They had to know that was a potential headache if it wasn’t already.

But yeah I wouldn’t be shocked if it played out very similar to what you are saying.
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Yeah, I could never figure out why they didn't do this instead of resigning him this last year.
 
Badcat said:
Five. But, they started 42 QB's since they re-entered the league in 1999.

1. Tim Couch
2. Brady Quinn
3. Brandon Weeden
4. Johnny Manziel
5. Baker Mayfield

The Steelers have drafted 2 and started 17 during the same time period.

Cleveland IS THE factory of sadness.
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Forgot about Weeden.
Thanks, BC!
 
Badcat said:
Five. But, they started 42 QB's since they re-entered the league in 1999.

1. Tim Couch
2. Brady Quinn
3. Brandon Weeden
4. Johnny Manziel
5. Baker Mayfield

The Steelers have drafted 2 and started 17 during the same time period.

Cleveland IS THE factory of sadness.
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madinsomniac said:
The Browns traded Garrett now because of their cap situation next year... the Deshawn Watson money they kept pushing into the future hits next year... if they dont extend him, the dead money cap hit is 86 million that hits all in one year.

They will play up the return, which was good, bit the Rams are now SB favorites.. so they are probably going to be getting a 28-32 spot pick in 27.

They got market value.. they arent competing in the next few years and they know it.. and there is no way to know how Garrett will fit in a new defensive scheme.
He is at peak value right now...

I mean everyone acts like this was a surprise... and it shouldnt have been at all... he was going to be a trade deadline move at worse this year.. they just cant afford him next season
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Great post madinsomniac.!!!

I didn’t think about the “happy ending” effect.

Thanks for clearing that up.



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Steeltime said:
Anybody who thinks dealing Garrett for Verse and draft picks makes a team better is wrong. Verse is good, maybe an 8 sack guy. He is basically Alex Highsmith, a 3rd rounder.

Meanwhile, you lose a guy who can demolish an offense. Then you draft three players, hoping - praying - they are as good as the guy you traded. But they won't be. I can all but guarantee that the three players they draft will combine for zero NFL defensive player of the year awards, zero MVP awards, almost certainly zero MVP votes, and probably zero NFL defensive player of the year votes.

So you wind up with four guys, none of whom is remotely as good as Garrett. It's the equivalent of trading Ohtani for four really good players. Stupid. Ohtani and three other even mediocre guys >>> the four guys you get in return. Ohtani and one good player plus two lousy players >>>>>> four good players, since you have Ohtani and a good player plus two roster spots to improve the team further.
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obviously you havent paid close attention to how well the Clowns have drafted lately.

hell, they got a starting QB in the 6th round who had his jersey retired by his college and a statue of his likeness displayed.

that's... kwalatee.
 
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