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Colbert or Tomlin whoever has the final say needs to go

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A laundry list of bad decisions, just not good enough.

We have seen enough to know that the bad decisions is a recurring problem.

And will continue to be....

* Canning Blount without bringing in a experienced backup immediately.
* Not being able to bench Troy when needed.
* Not bringing in a RT to compete with Gilbert and keeping Adams who has obvious pass blocking issues.
* Not canning Ike or drafting a corner high or bringing in a proven one like the Pats & Bronco's did
* Not bringing in a proven pass rusher like the Ravens and Broncos did
* letting two experienced productive WRs go in one off-season
* drafting a gimmick player high when there was plenty of obvious holes
* extending mediocre talent
*overpaying for a mediocre pass rusher

whoever has the final say needs to go

if they both have been making these horrific decisions equally then both need to go

some changes need to be made in who has controlling say

until then expect more of the same ......... seasons that are painful to watch and end badly................
 
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Nice list ...... to start with
 
I'm all for getting rid of whoever convinced me that drinking tonight was a good idea. It was a terrible ******* idea.
 
I want the owner of the jarvis pick canned. I strongly suspect it's Tomlin
 
any game day decisions on personel are on the coach.
The type of players we drafted changed when Tomlin was hired for what it's worth.
 
then he is the one who needs to go IMO
 
You would think these investors would be tired of the results they have seen by now
 
The investors are making money, the NFL is profitable even if zero fans came to the games.
 
The first personnel move after Tomlin was hired was the sacking of Joey Porter. Who apparently had a bit left in the tank as he went on to have a 16 sack All Pro NFL DPOY season two years later for the Miami Dolphins. Porter was under contract and still had one year left on that contract that paid him $4 million and a $1 million Roster Bonus.

That precluded the 2007 NFL Draft (Tomlins first) when we drafted not one but two OLB's in the first 2 rounds to compensate for the hole @ OLB that was created by the Porter release. A roster that included James Harrison. Imagine Joey Porter on one side and James Harrison on the other.

Another move made by the Steelers prior to the 2007 NFL Draft was the bolstering of the center position with the signing of Sean Mayhem Mahan from the Bucs to start. This was a player that Tomlin was familiar with from his time spent on the Bucs staff. The other centers on the roster, Chucky Okkobi and Marvin Phillip were cut. We went into the season with Mayhem Mahan #1 on the depth chart at center, #2 Center was our OG, oft injured Kendall Simmons.

Now multiply those decisions by 8 seasons of Roster Building.........
 
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8-8 next season with these decision makers....if we're lucky. The schedule doesn't look promising.
 
Unfortunately, Tomlin isn't going anywhere for a while. Get used to ****** drafts, excuses and poor play for the next several years. Especially since all the old guys we brought back or retained that helped make this run will most likely be gone next year and we have little talent behind them. Enjoy this division title because It's going to be ugly for a while.
 
So in essence "the steel" is out of the Steelers now. I suspect more old timers will be gone this off season and the last speck of what they used to be will be gone for good.
 
Blackstone said:
The investors are making money, the NFL is profitable even if zero fans came to the games.
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I dont buy that mindset because why, then, does any of the league's franchises decide to make personnel changes to their team? Whats the point if it doesnt matter because they're making huge profits anyway? The answer *gasp* is that it DOES matter
 
Both Tomlin and Colbert will be here as long as they want to be now to many of our dismay.

I have no idea how they won 11 games.

They lost to the Jets, went 2-2 against the worst division in football, and even the so-called great offense Tombert has assembled has struggled to score for the past month and has been made to look better than it is overall by a few isolated offensive outbursts.

As it pertains to Colbert, I just do not think the drafting of Bell and Bryant should offset all the mistakes that have been made on the defensive side of the ball.
 
The person I blame most is Art 2..........He allowed it to happen. Hell, he facilitated it.
 
coryea said:
any game day decisions on personel are on the coach.
The type of players we drafted changed when Tomlin was hired for what it's worth.
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I love this revisionist history.

Who drafted Jamain Stephens?

Who drafted Kordell, then stuck with him LONG after he'd proven he couldn't do it?

Who drafted Troy Edwards with the 13th overall pick?

Who chose to start Troy Edwards and Courtney Hawkins, as though they were legitimate players?

Who drafted Will Blackwell?

Those late 90's and early 2000s teams sucked for a reason, and it wasn't Mike Tomlin.
 
Steel Not A Player said:
I love this revisionist history.

Who drafted Jamain Stephens?

Who drafted Kordell, then stuck with him LONG after he'd proven he couldn't do it?

Who drafted Troy Edwards with the 13th overall pick?

Who chose to start Troy Edwards and Courtney Hawkins, as though they were legitimate players?

Who drafted Will Blackwell?

Those late 90's and early 2000s teams sucked for a reason, and it wasn't Mike Tomlin.
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Hey don't try confusing people with facts, they are set in their hatred. And no, I'm no pom pom waver myself but when it comes to other people's personal preference or even hatred, I believe your referring to what is called selective memory.
 
Super Dave said:
The person I blame most is Art 2..........He allowed it to happen. Hell, he facilitated it.
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I'm curious to see if he extends Tomlin the customary "two years left on the contract" extension this offseason.

I thought the extension was a certainty going into last night, but given how poorly they played, I honestly don't know now.
 
TAS said:
I want the owner of the jarvis pick canned. I strongly suspect it's Tomlin
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Suspect as much as you want but Lebeau wanted him too. I saw an interview where he got super excited and giddy when Jarvis ran a 4.9 at his pro day because DL thought that they now had a chance to take him. So you can try your best to always lay blame at the feet of Tomlin, but it's just not legitimate. I'm not defending Tomlin by any means, only pointing out that DL was really excited to get JJ and that he had his hand in that pick as well.

I love how some people want to act as if the draft every year goes as the following:

Tomlin: We are taking "Insert name here"

Everyone else in war room: He is horrible why would we take him

Tomlin: That's my guy

Everyone: Mike we strongly suggest this guy "insert name here", the guy you want is not valuable and will never be any good

*Steelers on the clock*

Tomlin: turn in the card

Everyone: NO!

*pick announced*

*war room is dismayed, rolling their eyes and sighing. Tomlin incredibly delighted*

/\- Sound ridiculous? Because it is, yet many on here would have you believe this is not that far fetched, there is lots of blame to go around folks not just MT.
 
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11-5 and a division title. You guys are flapping your gums into the wind to think there will be changes at HC or GM.

"One or two splash plays and a few bounces go our way, we could have pulled it out. We are a few players away for making another run. We are close."
 
ianv2012 said:
Suspect as much as you want but Lebeau wanted him to. I saw an interview where he got super excited and giddy when Jarvis ran a 4.9 at his pro day because DL thought that they now had a chance to take him. So you can try your best to always lay blame at the feet of Tomlin, but it's just not legitimate. I'm not defending Tomlin by any means, only pointing out that DL was really excited to get JJ and that he had his hand in that pick as well.

I love how some people want to act as if the draft every year goes as the following:

Tomlin: We are taking "Insert name here"

Everyone else in war room: He is horrible why would we take him

Tomlin: That's my guy

Everyone: Mike we strongly suggest this guy "insert name here", the guy you want is not valuable and will never be any good

*Steelers on the clock*

Tomlin: turn in the card

Everyone: NO!

*pick announced*

*war room is dismayed, rolling their eyes and sighing. Tomlin incredibly delighted*

/\- Sound ridiculous? Because it is, yet many on here would have you believe this is not that far fetched, there is lots of blame to go around folks not just MT.
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Honestly I an convinced a lot of these people think that is EXACTLY how it goes.
 
Supersteeler said:
Honestly I an convinced a lot of these people think that is EXACTLY how it goes.
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Not to mention these poster's believe the guy everyone else in the war room wanted Tomlin to take instead is the guy the poster wanted, warped reality I say.
 
coryea said:
any game day decisions on personel are on the coach.
The type of players we drafted changed when Tomlin was hired for what it's worth.
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You better believe it Tom. I've been saying that for some time now. The drafting and F/A acquisitions were much better when Colbert and Cowher were together but took on a completely different look when Tomlin came here. I will never be convinced that Tomlin does not have a lot of influence in the draft and F/A.
 
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