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At his annual season wrap-up, which continues to come no later than a week into the NFL playoffs, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin didn’t hand out many strong endorsements.

But he sounded more encouraged by the work of offensive coordinator Matt Canada than he did a year ago at this time, shortly before parting ways with Randy Fichtner. Tomlin didn’t want to express “satisfaction with any component” but added that Canada “brings things to the table that are attractive.”

“I'm optimistic about Matt and what he's capable of doing,” Tomlin said. “I acknowledge that we took a step back. There are some obvious, tangible reasons why that occurred. I'm not going to get into all of that. I'm not going to seek comfort in that. We've got to be better. We intend to be. And that's going to require a lot of planning and work, players and coaches.”

Before moving on from Fichtner following three seasons, Tomlin simply stated that he wasn’t ready to assess any coaches individually after the wild-card loss to the Browns. But he at least gave somewhat of an assessment of Canada, who would have the shortest tenure of any coordinator under Tomlin if he isn’t back in 2022.

In fact, the Steelers haven’t given an offensive coordinator less than two years since Ray Sherman’s lone campaign in 1998, a 7-9 finish. Canada’s offense failed to score a touchdown in seven of the final eight games, though his unit was littered with rookies and inexperienced starters, while being helmed by a 39-year-old Ben Roethlisberger who offered little to no mobility.

“We are proceeding with that assumption,” Tomlin said of Roethlisberger retiring, a certainty that hasn’t been officially announced yet by the quarterback or the organization. “Mason [Rudolph] and Dwayne [Haskins] have had their moments, but they’ll have to prove that.”

And thus, the Steelers would be back in something of a chicken-or-egg situation with their offensive coordinator. Canada’s system didn't work well with the roster assembled for 2021, but there’s no guarantee that next season’s nucleus will be an upgrade.

“I don't know that I'm anticipating any, but I don't know that I'm going to be surprised by any,” Tomlin said of staff changes, then echoed comments from his opening statement. “I understand change is a part of our business and I don't run away from it. I'm not overly resistant to it. I don't run to it, as well. I don't change for the sake of changing. I'm open to change where appropriate.”

While Canada is the toughest decision the Steelers brass has to make, it looks as if another will be made for them. The team’s defensive coordinator since 2015, Keith Butler, has discussed retirement, Tomlin confirmed.

“He and I haven't had an opportunity to sit down,” Tomlin said. “I’m doing player [exit] interviews, he’s doing player interviews. We haven’t had a detailed conversation in that regard.”

And even more change could be in the offing for Tomlin at the highest levels of the organization. Although, if longtime general manager Kevin Colbert does indeed step down when his contract expires with the completion of the 2022 draft, there hasn’t been any sort of alteration in the day-to-day operation.

Colbert already has been getting the coach up to speed on draft preparation and what their plan is for the Senior Bowl in a couple weeks, no different than any other offseason for the two men with the most power in building the Steelers roster year in and year out.

“He and I have had discussions about it, but I’ll leave it to Kevin to address any issues regarding him and his future,” Tomlin said. “My plan and our plan is to proceed in the short term like we always do.”

Their approach may indeed be status quo, but their challenge is different this year from any other they’ve had together. Of course, the ultimate mission is the same — to improve the Steelers — but this is the first time since 2004 the franchise has not had Roethlisberger as their quarterback.

As Tomlin put it, “all options are on the table” beyond incumbent backups Rudolph and Haskins, but he spoke much more about finding another passer in the draft or free agency than via trade. That would all but rule out big-name long shots such as Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson, and Tomlin insisted that he has not made it known privately that he would prefer a veteran to a rookie as Roethlisbeger’s successor, despite a report in October from Fox Sports.

“I have not expressed that,” Tomlin said. “I think it's prudent and appropriate to be open to all of the above.”

Prudent and appropriate, sure, but definitely not simple.

“It's a challenge, man,” Tomlin said of staring down the unknown at quarterback post-Roethlisberger, whose time here predates Tomlin. “It makes you uneasy. But I've learned to run to those challenges. I've learned to appreciate those challenges. The uncertainty surrounding them is inspiring to me.”


 

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PITTSBURGH -- As of now, Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin isn't anticipating any moves to come with the team's offensive coordinator. Heading into the offseason, Matt Canada will continue to operate as if he'll be with the team in 2022.

"I'm optimistic about Matt [Canada] and what's capable of doing," Tomlin said during his end of the year press conference. "I'll acknowledge that we took a step back. There's obvious tangles reasons why that occurred, so I'm not going to get into all of that. I'm not going to seek comfort in that. We got to be better. We intend to be, and that's going to require a lot of planning and work; players and coaches."

The Steelers' offense finished 15th in passing, 29th in rushing and 25th in scoring. This season, they averaged six less points per game than they did in 2020 under offensive coordinator Randy Fichtner.

Some of that is due to the turnover within the players. Pittsburgh had four new starters on the offensive line, including two rookies, and started four rookies on offense throughout the season.

"You can seek comfort in those facts, but I won't and I don't," Tomlin said. "We've got to be better than we were, and that's one of the critical reasons why we're sitting here having this end of the year discussion."

The Steelers will have a new starting quarterback in 2022, and could see more changes to try to solidify a more sound group moving forward.
As of right now, it appears Canada will continue to have control of that side of the ball next season.

 

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PITTSBURGH -- As of now, Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin isn't anticipating any moves to come with the team's offensive coordinator. Heading into the offseason, Matt Canada will continue to operate as if he'll be with the team in 2022.

"I'm optimistic about Matt [Canada] and what's capable of doing," Tomlin said during his end of the year press conference. "I'll acknowledge that we took a step back. There's obvious tangles reasons why that occurred, so I'm not going to get into all of that.


Oh, okay, Mr. Bon Mot, Mr. Tomlinism, don't "get into that," i.e., your offense sucking a dog's balls and stinking like a rotting fish left in the Florida sun for two days. Yeah, don't bring that up or explain why the @#$%ing why you think it will get better with the SAME OC and a much WORSE QB.

Yeah, you bet. Awesome.
 

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It's looking like we're going to have Cheerleader, Lady Rudolph, Strip Club Haskins, and Canaduh in 2022! Eat your heart out AFC!!!!

You know KC is already wondering what adjustments will be necessary to ensure that they can fend us off from the conference title next year.
 

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Two runs third and long punt. seems very attractive. I forgot we have three men shift before we run run pass punt.
 

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This is all the proof you need to see how ******* ST00PID and terrible coach Mike Tomlin is if he thinks Matt Canada is the right man for the OC job.

Any Rookie OC that refuses to allow an 18 year veteran QB audible out of the play calls that Matt Canada sends down is almost like stopping Peyton Manning from calling an audible because of the OC. You just wouldn't do that...and they shouldn't have done that to Ben.
 

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It's stuff like this that makes Mike Tomlin a terrible Head Coach. Would you stop Peyton Manning from calling an audible because the OC doesn't want that? Of course not....but they did it to Big Ben in his final season. TERRIBLE!
 

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Tomlin is not committed to winning, period. More concerned about protecting his ego, maybe the owner values saving a few bucks over winning as well.

This offense regressed, not progressed this season, which is the opposite of what a young group should do. Epically bad offense this year. Pathetic decision, wrong decision.

As far as his have red paint, paint the barn red comment-what should chill us all to the bone is if they draft a QB in the first round who is the "right color of paint" for Canada.

Can you imagine a rookie running this offense next year? Can you imagine our novice OC trying to develop that rookie? Canada will ruin any rookie QB who steps foot on the field next year, if that rookie is drafted in round 1 it could be 5 years before we even sniff conention again.
 

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Canada had a decent run at NC State before getting to coach an absolutely loaded Pitt roster. LSU ran him out after one year and he had a short stint at Maryland before sitting out of coaching for a year. I'm not even sure how good of a coordinator he even was at the college level. You knew they weren't going to fire him because the Steelers have to wait until the contract runs out.
 

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The Steelers set a record for consecutive games without a first half touchdown. I don't care about the lack of talent on offense, that stretch of first half incompetence is an embarrassment and Tomlin just gave his stamp of approval.
 

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Canada got rid of the no-huddle/hurry-up offense prior to the season - a shock to everyone. Canada made no adjustments for 18 games. Canada had no game plans for 18 games. Canada's play calls were horrendous for 3 quarters of pretty much every game. The O did nothing until Ben took over. Ben still could and did throw very effectively downfield to lead the team to most of our victories in spite of Canada. And, the list goes on. Yet, Tomlin has no problem with Canada and openly blamed the players. Holy ****!
 

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Canada got rid of the no-huddle/hurry-up offense prior to the season - a shock to everyone. Canada made no adjustments for 18 games. Canada had no game plans for 18 games. Canada's play calls were horrendous for 3 quarters of pretty much every game. The O did nothing until Ben took over. Ben still could and did throw very effectively downfield to lead the team to most of our victories in spite of Canada. And, the list goes on. Yet, Tomlin has no problem with Canada and openly blamed the players. Holy ****!


These are things about Coach Tomlin that just baffles me. Glad I'm not the only one to see these type of things and I'm sure many here see it as well.

They did no favors for their greatest QB of all franchise time, they did BEN wrong regardless of how you look at it.




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He brings things to the table like donuts every Thursday morning. Are you ****** kidding me Tomlin. We took a step back. Yeah you took a step back from real ****** in 2020-21 which seemed damn near impossible. Fahhhhhhhhk
 

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Meh I knew he’d be back… we mostly ran Fitchners offense this year. As with every oc under tomlin we dont install the new stuff until year two…. A lot of nfl teams run the Canada offense At least in part… a lot of those plays that beat us Sunday night are based on his stuff… kc was one of the teams he consulted for when reid was modifying his offense.

That doesn’t mean the offense will improve though… we still might be handcuffed by the head coach wanting run run pass and only parameter or short passes…. Which is likely unfortunately
 

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I told yinz.
 

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Canada got rid of the no-huddle/hurry-up offense prior to the season - a shock to everyone. Canada made no adjustments for 18 games. Canada had no game plans for 18 games. Canada's play calls were horrendous for 3 quarters of pretty much every game. The O did nothing until Ben took over. Ben still could and did throw very effectively downfield to lead the team to most of our victories in spite of Canada. And, the list goes on. Yet, Tomlin has no problem with Canada and openly blamed the players. Holy ****!
Just a couple of questions. Hopefully you don’t take them as Ben Bashing. To me it’s just reality. Doesn’t matter who the QBs is.
Over and over I read about how Ben took over the 4th quarter.

Yet I also read that he is not allowed to Audible out.
Yet the same coaches are calling the plays. No......they didn’t go home at half time. ( though I wish they would have many times)

So how has he magically taken over the 4th quarter?
And why could Ben and the offense not play anywhere near like this in the first 3/4?

Now could it be because Ben and the offense **** the bed so many times in the first 3/4 that the opponent were playing incredibly soft on Defense?
They did nothing when the game was even up. Nothing.

I mean were you one of the people in last years playoff game after Ben threw 10 int’s in the first half to put us behind by a hundred points,were you one of those people that looked at his stats and thought he had a great game and almost brought them back? Knowing full well they were giving him 30 yard passes non stop for most of the game.

Yes I know the coaching sucked. But out of curiosity do you give them any credit at all for the 4th quarter improvement or just Ben?

And on the flip side are you just criticizing coaching for the first dismal 3/4 of a game play,or Ben too.
We used to laugh at QB’s that got all their yards in garbage time. When they were way behind.

And no....I don’t blame all the offenses woes on Ben. But he was a big part of it.
 

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Oh, okay, Mr. Bon Mot, Mr. Tomlinism, don't "get into that," i.e., your offense sucking a dog's balls and stinking like a rotting fish left in the Florida sun for two days. Yeah, don't bring that up or explain why the @#$%ing why you think it will get better with the SAME OC and a much WORSE QB.

Yeah, you bet. Awesome.
Listen, we don’t let the sack impact the pack. The shades be fine, when ib having da wine. My coaches are great, cause they cover my mistakes. Canada da man, told me he got a plan.
 

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Just a couple of questions. Hopefully you don’t take them as Ben Bashing. To me it’s just reality. Doesn’t matter who the QBs is.
Over and over I read about how Ben took over the 4th quarter.

Yet I also read that he is not allowed to Audible out.
Yet the same coaches are calling the plays. No......they didn’t go home at half time. ( though I wish they would have many times)

So how has he magically taken over the 4th quarter?
And why could Ben and the offense not play anywhere near like this in the first 3/4?

Now could it be because Ben and the offense **** the bed so many times in the first 3/4 that the opponent were playing incredibly soft on Defense?
They did nothing when the game was even up. Nothing.

I mean were you one of the people in last years playoff game after Ben threw 10 int’s in the first half to put us behind by a hundred points,were you one of those people that looked at his stats and thought he had a great game and almost brought them back? Knowing full well they were giving him 30 yard passes non stop for most of the game.

Yes I know the coaching sucked. But out of curiosity do you give them any credit at all for the 4th quarter improvement or just Ben?

And on the flip side are you just criticizing coaching for the first dismal 3/4 of a game play,or Ben too.
We used to laugh at QB’s that got all their yards in garbage time. When they were way behind.

And no....I don’t blame all the offenses woes on Ben. But he was a big part of it.
Its not so much that the d is playing soft… most often that isn’t the case… its tgat the O gets more aggressive…

This nfl isn’t like the 1990’s one. Without decapitation hits across the middle and with pass interference and personal fouls for many qb hits, the D is at a severe disadvantage…

For three quarters we play very safe… we get behind and then start challenging coverages and using the whole field… aggressive football wins… we just play it super safe early… that’s why we fail
 

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Just a couple of questions. Hopefully you don’t take them as Ben Bashing. To me it’s just reality. Doesn’t matter who the QBs is.
Over and over I read about how Ben took over the 4th quarter.

Yet I also read that he is not allowed to Audible out.
Yet the same coaches are calling the plays. No......they didn’t go home at half time. ( though I wish they would have many times)

So how has he magically taken over the 4th quarter?
And why could Ben and the offense not play anywhere near like this in the first 3/4?

Now could it be because Ben and the offense **** the bed so many times in the first 3/4 that the opponent were playing incredibly soft on Defense?
They did nothing when the game was even up. Nothing.

I mean were you one of the people in last years playoff game after Ben threw 10 int’s in the first half to put us behind by a hundred points,were you one of those people that looked at his stats and thought he had a great game and almost brought them back? Knowing full well they were giving him 30 yard passes non stop for most of the game.

Yes I know the coaching sucked. But out of curiosity do you give them any credit at all for the 4th quarter improvement or just Ben?

And on the flip side are you just criticizing coaching for the first dismal 3/4 of a game play,or Ben too.
We used to laugh at QB’s that got all their yards in garbage time. When they were way behind.

And no....I don’t blame all the offenses woes on Ben. But he was a big part of it.
My probably over simplified answer is like any OC Canada game plans for the game all week, and over the last 1/3 of the season that's what's run in the first half and it is hot garbage. Then they throw the ball down the field out of necessity-i don't know if those are Canada plays or Ben improvising.

No Ben didnt want to get hit this year and he missed some throws, but part of being a coach is making it work with what you have and leaning from what works and improving the results, Canada failed miserably at this

The bottom line is Im confident Canada is scheming the start of games and its horrendous.
 

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Canada and Tomlin who made Ray Ray the centerpiece of the offense. Yikes! We’re doomed!
 
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