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Covid Vaccine

Tim Steelersfan said:
You don't have a clue about the efficacy of these vaccines, as demonstrated for over 200 pages.

I know that these "differences" are attributable to the vaccines waning in efficacy.

What's hysterical is how you now spin away from VT setting ALL TIME record highs in cases, and equivalent deaths now to their worst peak ever to "cold weather" and it is expected. LMAO. They are currently experiencing as many deaths in this wave as they did in their highest.

vtdigger.org

Vermont reports 377 Covid cases, releases latest breakthrough case data

Three new deaths were also reported, and 45 people are in the hospital with Covid.
vtdigger.org



Those vaccines are really working. Yep.



Now just wait a minute. You've been spouting 95% effectiveness against deaths. The State of VT now says those unvaccinated are 2x more likely to die. You've been spouting 12x, 10x, 15x more likely.

Weird how as time passes, these numbers continue to drop, meaning the chances of dying while being vaxed increase. Odd that, is it not?

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Those protection numbers continue to slide downward from 95%, 15x, 12x, 10x, 9x....to only 1.9x for deaths. How far will they go down?

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These vaccines, compared to their peers, are terrible.
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Do you realize the article referenced a plea from the governor stating, in bold, “THIS PANDEMIC IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE UNVACCINATED”?
 
Troglodyte said:
Do you realize the article referenced a plea from the governor stating, in bold, “THIS PANDEMIC IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE UNVACCINATED”?
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And if the governor had said, "I can flap my arms and fly," that would make it a fact?

Dull, stupid, lazy people look for an easy "bad guy." You and Biden certainly fit that category. You need a simple answer to complex questions, such as, "Trumpists are to blame" for mistrust of the government, or "white supremacists are to blame" for the nation's deepening problems, or "the unvaccinated are to blame" for Covid when the number of infected and hospitalized is higher WITH the vaccine than without. (Every point I listed above is easily proven.)

Basically, your ilk - giving China a pass, allowing millions to walk across the border, allowing hundreds of thousands of Covid infected to walk across the border, imposing restrictions and mandates on the rests of us while ignoring your own rules, ignoring the science, lying about the science - are to blame. Man up and admit your wrongdoing.

Or just continue farting and ******** your pants.
 
Steeltime said:
And if the governor had said, "I can flap my arms and fly," that would make it a fact?

Dull, stupid, lazy people look for an easy "bad guy." You and Biden certainly fit that category. You need a simple answer to complex questions, such as, "Trumpists are to blame" for mistrust of the government, or "white supremacists are to blame" for the nation's deepening problems, or "the unvaccinated are to blame" for Covid when the number of infected and hospitalized is higher WITH the vaccine than without. (Every point I listed above is easily proven.)

Basically, your ilk - giving China a pass, allowing millions to walk across the border, allowing hundreds of thousands of Covid infected to walk across the border, imposing restrictions and mandates on the rests of us while ignoring your own rules, ignoring the science, lying about the science - are to blame. Zi/Zer/Zey up and admit your wrongdoing.

Or just continue farting and ******** your pants.
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FIFY
 
Troglodyte said:
Do you realize the article referenced a plea from the governor stating, in bold, “THIS PANDEMIC IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE UNVACCINATED”?
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I'm quite aware that was in there. That is government speak.

Critical thinking Flog.

MORE and MORE of the cases are being driven by the vaccinated Flog.

Have you noticed that as the death rates increase among the vax, as the efficacy of the vaccines wane, the Gubmint continues saying the same, tired things? All very orchestrated.

"The vaccines are 95% effective at preventing deaths and serious illness."
"The pandemic is driven by the unvaxed."
"The unvaxed are 15x more likely to die than the vaxed."
"The unvaxed are 10x more likely to die than the vaxed."

Go look up ANY state-provided article on Covid cases/deaths. You will see these lines. Follow a state, like I have VT or WA. While the data shows the vaccines waning, the cases increasing among the vaxed, the deaths increasing among the vaxed...the "leaders" continue to spout the same lies.

You drink that Kool-aid. That's your choice.
 
Simple question, Floggy. Please provide an answer.

Why do the government vaccine sites CONSTANTLY refer to the percentage of United States population vaccinated, rather than the ELIGIBLE population until a couple of days ago (12 and above)? I mean, what the hell does the number of unvaccinated because they CANNOT GET THE GODDAMN VACCINE have to do with the price of tea in China?

ourworldindata.org

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations

Our vaccination dataset uses the most recent official numbers from governments and health ministries worldwide. Population estimates for per-capita metrics are based on the United Nations World Population Prospects. Income groups are based on the World Bank classification. A full list of our...
ourworldindata.org ourworldindata.org

usafacts.org

US Coronavirus vaccine tracker

Each state has a different plan — and different challenges — in distributing vaccines. Learn more about who is getting vaccinated by parsing the data by age, sex and race.
usafacts.org usafacts.org

www.npr.org

How is the COVID-19 vaccination campaign going in your state?

The U.S. is engaged in a massive effort to vaccinate the bulk of its population against COVID-19. But some states are working faster than others. See how yours is faring.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

www.cdc.gov

COVID Data Tracker Weekly Review

The week’s key data, narrative interpretations, & visualizations.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

Look forward to your answer.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
I'm quite aware that was in there. That is government speak.

Critical thinking Flog.

MORE and MORE of the cases are being driven by the vaccinated Flog.

Have you noticed that as the death rates increase among the vax, as the efficacy of the vaccines wane, the Gubmint continues saying the same, tired things? All very orchestrated.

"The vaccines are 95% effective at preventing deaths and serious illness."
"The pandemic is driven by the unvaxed."
"The unvaxed are 15x more likely to die than the vaxed."
"The unvaxed are 10x more likely to die than the vaxed."

Go look up ANY state-provided article on Covid cases/deaths. You will see these lines. Follow a state, like I have VT or WA. While the data shows the vaccines waning, the cases increasing among the vaxed, the deaths increasing among the vaxed...the "leaders" continue to spout the same lies.

You drink that Kool-aid. That's your choice.
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Sure, Tim.

www.texastribune.org

Unvaccinated Texans make up vast majority of COVID-19 cases and deaths this year, new state data shows

The new state survey is the first time Texas health officials have been able to statistically measure the vaccine's true impact on the pandemic.
www.texastribune.org www.texastribune.org

www.haaretz.com

COVID in Israel: The 17% unvaccinated make up 60% of deaths this week

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www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com
 
multiple choice answer. see if you can get this one correct.

Q: so why are people DYING after being vaxxed, Floggy?

a) the vaccine shot isnt as holy as it was said to be
b) a
 
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Superman said:
multiple choice answer. see if you can get this one correct.

Q: so why are people DYING after being vaxxed, Floggy?

a) the vaccine shot isnt as holy as it was said to be
b) a
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You’re like a snatch that points outs to people celebrating a championship that their team wasn’t undefeated.
 
Djfan said:
Why are any professionals pretending that a zero infection rate is the only standard acceptable? We do that with exactly ZERO other sicknesses.

Also, I still don't trust the death total being put out there.
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Who is saying that? Have you seen football stadiums or bars and restaurants lately? They’re packed.
 
Troglodyte said:
Who is saying that? Have you seen football stadiums or bars and restaurants lately? They’re packed.
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I work for my state's department of corrections. They have locked down, or severely restricted the inmates activities until they achieve a zero% infection rate. When asked why, I was told by the person responsible for these decisions, that they are only following the CDC recommendations.
 
Troglodyte said:
You’re like a snatch that points outs to people celebrating a championship that their team wasn’t undefeated.
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the point is - and its a point you continue to hammer as being false - is that the shot wanes.
aren't you following the science?
 
Superman said:
the point is - and its a point you continue to hammer as being false - is that the shot wanes.
aren't you following the science?
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**** sake this shot is about as good as “protecting against” as pulling out.
 
Troglodyte said:
Sure, Tim.

www.texastribune.org

Unvaccinated Texans make up vast majority of COVID-19 cases and deaths this year, new state data shows

The new state survey is the first time Texas health officials have been able to statistically measure the vaccine's true impact on the pandemic.
www.texastribune.org www.texastribune.org

www.haaretz.com

COVID in Israel: The 17% unvaccinated make up 60% of deaths this week

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www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com
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LMAO, so 40% of the deaths in Israel this past week were the vaccinated?

Seriously sometimes you can't make **** up as good as this. True comedy gold.

I'm also curious why in WA state, you are 1.9 times more likely to die if you are unvaxed, but in TX you are 12x more likely. Is it the water in both places? Do the vaccines work more effectively in TX than in WA? Or could it be...

However, state officials still don’t have official numbers on how many vaccinated people were hospitalized with COVID-19 because hospitals are not required to report that level of data under state law.

But the state’s largest hospital districts and counties have reported that at least 90% of the hospitalized Texans with the virus were unvaccinated.
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Perhaps you'll wake up to the realization that there is no consistency with data. In fact, the data from one state to the next and from one country to the next vascillates mightily. Why is that? The Pfizer given in Israel is the same give here. The same given in Ireland and in WA and in TX and in VT.

So why exactly are the death rates among the vaxed so vastly different in these populations Dr. Flog? Do tell.

Do you still believe the vaccines are 95% effective universally in preventing death? Cases? Hospitalizations? I'm curious. Do share.
 
Troglodyte said:
Who is saying that? Have you seen football stadiums or bars and restaurants lately? They’re packed.
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Why are they packed?

Because people across the spectrum have said "**** it". Some are vaxed, some aren't. Most simply don't care because this isn't the bubonic plague. I've been to two SEC football games, one Big 10 football game, and one CAA football game this fall. Jam packed. Tailgating. Bars before and after. 3% are wearing masks.

In real life, this ain't a big deal. Because...it's not...a...big...deal.

But remember, mask up those kids, because COVID kills.

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Superman said:
@Tim Steelersfan

www.wreg.com

Dyer County teen in hospital after rare reaction to COVID vaccine

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — The CDC says COVID-19 vaccines have been a remarkable success and serious adverse reactions are rare, but a teenager from Dyer County, Tennessee is in the hospital Tuesday af…
www.wreg.com www.wreg.com
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17 years old. Trusted the Gubmint. Trusted these EUA developed vaccines.

“It’s a condition where the body’s immune syndrome gets a little bit confused and targets your nerve cells and that leads to weakness,” he said.
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You hear a lot about that **** with the flu shots and measles vaccines right?

Nope.

Frat brother of mine. I had a private message with him after he publicly shared some struggles he and his wife had with the vaccines. I asked him privately, what happened?

I have had constant back pain and put on 15 lbs without changing eating or workout habits.

My wife’s voice has literally been hoarse ever since she got her vax and she has had fluid in her ears for three weeks. We both had J&J and had Covid early before any tests were available.

My friend is a medical rep. His girlfriend is a buyer for Atrium health. They were part of the vac study. She did Pfizer he did Moderna. Same times for first and second. When they tested for antibodies, they had none! He is not a believer anymore.

I have a friend at the Club that got the Moderna booster after the J&J initial shot on Thursday. He was sick as **** for the entire day on Friday. He’s 60 and had Covid.

Good luck. We did the one shot for the one and done for pressure at my wife’s job and her office. Total BS.

Our son will NEVER get this VAX. It seems that if you’ve had Covid. The VAX is worse. Good luck!! Total BS world we live in now bro
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A co-worker of mine, who was adamantly against our company's vaccine mandate, buckled last week and got the first shot from Pfizer. I talked to him Monday, he informed me. While we spoke, I asked him how he felt. He said, "Generally lethargic. I've been nauseated for days, running a mild fever, but I think it was due to my activity this weekend." He texted me today: "Temperature spike yesterday of 101. And now have a terrible cough. Still no energy." That was his first shot.

My sister got Moderna back in March, shot 1. Got shot 2 in April. She was in bed for 2.5 days. Said she will not get the booster. She was also hospitalized with suspicion of pericarditis. Docs ruled it out as stress. ::cough cough::

Neighbor of mine, with heart issues, got the jab. Dead 3 days later.

My son got the J&J. Lost feeling in his legs, got sick as ****.

I literally know more people who've suffered from these wonder shots than I do who died of Covid (no one I know).

Wonderful world we live in.
 
“We didn’t have vaccines that block transmission. We got vaccines that help you with your health, but they only slightly reduce the transmission. We need a new way of doing the vaccines.”

 
finance.yahoo.com

FLCCC Tells Children’s Health Defense: World’s Leading ICU Doctor Files Lawsuit Against Hospital System After Being Barred from Administering Proven COVID-19 Treatments

A Virginia physician has been prohibited from using safe and time-honored medications inhospital while death rates from COVID-19 continue to mountWashington, DC, Nov. 10, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Paul Marik, MD, one of the most highly published critical care physicians in the world and the...
finance.yahoo.com finance.yahoo.com

Washington, DC, Nov. 10, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Paul Marik, MD, one of the most highly published critical care physicians in the world and the Director of the ICU at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital, was recently told by Sentara Healthcare that he could no longer administer a range of highly effective COVID-19 treatments to critically ill patients—the same treatments he has successfully used to reduce COVID deaths in the ICU by as much as 50%. The result of the prohibition has been a sharp increase in patient mortality.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
finance.yahoo.com

FLCCC Tells Children’s Health Defense: World’s Leading ICU Doctor Files Lawsuit Against Hospital System After Being Barred from Administering Proven COVID-19 Treatments

A Virginia physician has been prohibited from using safe and time-honored medications inhospital while death rates from COVID-19 continue to mountWashington, DC, Nov. 10, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Paul Marik, MD, one of the most highly published critical care physicians in the world and the...
finance.yahoo.com finance.yahoo.com

Washington, DC, Nov. 10, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Paul Marik, MD, one of the most highly published critical care physicians in the world and the Director of the ICU at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital, was recently told by Sentara Healthcare that he could no longer administer a range of highly effective COVID-19 treatments to critically ill patients—the same treatments he has successfully used to reduce COVID deaths in the ICU by as much as 50%. The result of the prohibition has been a sharp increase in patient mortality.
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Shameful, and their lame excuse for denying treatment.
 
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