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College Football Playoffs Expanding to 12 Teams

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It's all but a done deal that college will expand the playoff to 12 teams. It probably won;t go into effect for a few years but is likely to be finalized soon.

I think 12 teams is the perfect number. 16 is too many and would make the regular season almost meaningless like the tournament makes college basketball regular season meaningless.

It would be an automatic berth for the power 5 champs, plus an automatic for the top rated non power 5 conference champ. Then 6 wildcards.

They would give a bye to the top 4 teams. Then seeds 5-8 would host a home playoff game vs seeds 9-12. This is the advantage of 12 teams. It means that a team like Clemson or Bama still has to play hard to ensure a bye. Then the next group still plays hard because they want to get a home playoff game.

Clay Travis has a good breakdown including a list of how many times each team would have made the playoff over the last 10 years. Obviously he's a SEC hater for saying Bama only would have made it 9 of 10 years.

 
Good. Puts some value on the conference championship. It also gives perennial also rans that have a single unbeaten season a shot at the National Championship.
 
Just in time for the end of college football
 
Vis said:
Just in time for the end of college football
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College football isn't going to end, Jeepers. They will recruit differently and players will receive a different value for their playing contribution. The Supreme Court ruling isn't "ending" college footbal but it will change compensation criteria.

Don't go jumping off a bridge or burning your college gear as College Football will be around for a long time....... to BIG $$$money$$$ maker to stop.





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So that would have included Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati and Indiana in the playoffs last year. That's actually pretty good. I like it....only about 55 years too late.
 
That would be a lot of extra games for a team that plays a conference championship. They could potentially play that and 4 more games if they made it to the championship game. I really don't think it's needed. The way it is really is just fine with me. Even going to 12 teams, you will always have teams that get "screwed". You will never satisfy everyone. Just leave it alone. Just like the NFL, this is all about money, especially now that they will have to start paying the players to some extent.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
It would be an automatic berth for the power 5 champs, plus an automatic for the top rated non power 5 conference champ. Then 6 wildcards.
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Unless something changed from when I first read about this, it's the six highest-ranked conference champions and then six at-large teams, so there are no guaranteed spots for the P5 champions. They were also taking about all the games after the first round would be played at a bowl site. They need to ditch that idea as soon as possible. It gives no homefield advantage to the teams earning a bye week and is just unnecessary. Play the title game at a neutral site like the Super Bowl.

I also think this should mean the end of conference championship games. There's little good that will come out of them outside of a team losing a playoff spot or bye week plus having to play an extra game. On top of this, with the NCAA moving slowly to having to pay players, you wonder when the haves and have nots will break away. There are a ton of teams that will never have a chance at the playoffs let alone compete with even mid-tier programs and they would probably still get to share in some of the income. I wonder if the FBS as we know it shrinks to 50-60 teams with more regional (NFL style) conferences with no needs for divisions. This would all be down the line, but the current structure could be adjusted for a more competitive balance moving forward.
 
based on this Jim needs to hit the gas pedal hard while Ohio ST is down, QB for the first time in a long time looking good for atleast 5 years, need a big boast at RB/WR @ CB need some 5 star recruits there.
glad UM just landed a 4 star QB from Cal
 
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So 1 week of four games, another week of four games, another week of 2 games and a final. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. that is a lot of weeks.
 
TDX27 said:
That would be a lot of extra games for a team that plays a conference championship. They could potentially play that and 4 more games if they made it to the championship game. I really don't think it's needed. The way it is really is just fine with me. Even going to 12 teams, you will always have teams that get "screwed". You will never satisfy everyone. Just leave it alone. Just like the NFL, this is all about money, especially now that they will have to start paying the players to some extent.
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TDX27 said:
The way it is really is just fine with me.
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Are you joking??? The annual 'Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma tournament? I think there has only been 10 different teams represented in the 7 years of the playoffs out of a possible 28 playoff teams. Get rid of it. Would love to see a #2 conference placer take it all.
 
It's about time college football had a legit college playoff system. 12 I will recognize. 16 is better.
 
I wonder how those O'l Nebraska Cornhusker teams would do in todays atmosphere against the bama boys or take the bama boys back into the Nebraska hay-day era.




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SteelerFan448 said:
Unless something changed from when I first read about this, it's the six highest-ranked conference champions and then six at-large teams, so there are no guaranteed spots for the P5 champions. They were also taking about all the games after the first round would be played at a bowl site. They need to ditch that idea as soon as possible. It gives no homefield advantage to the teams earning a bye week and is just unnecessary. Play the title game at a neutral site like the Super Bowl.

I also think this should mean the end of conference championship games. There's little good that will come out of them outside of a team losing a playoff spot or bye week plus having to play an extra game. On top of this, with the NCAA moving slowly to having to pay players, you wonder when the haves and have nots will break away. There are a ton of teams that will never have a chance at the playoffs let alone compete with even mid-tier programs and they would probably still get to share in some of the income. I wonder if the FBS as we know it shrinks to 50-60 teams with more regional (NFL style) conferences with no needs for divisions. This would all be down the line, but the current structure could be adjusted for a more competitive balance moving forward.
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i can't imagine that the P5 conferences won't have automatic spots in the final version. They should too. Even if the Pac or Big 12 are down, it's still a tougher schedule than any non P5 team will have played.

With paying players about to happen, non P5 schools will be dead soon. College football will suffer overall. It will be like before scholarship limits when a few big name teams dominated. That's what will happen again. There will be probably 10 teams that are contenders nearly every year, then another tier of 20 or so teams that are occasionally competitive, and the rest will just be cannon fodder.

Not to go political, but it's like raising minimum wage to $15. Walmart, Amazon, they'll be just fine, but small businesses are screwed and will have trouble staying open.

I expect a bunch of teams will simply drop down to a lower level. Some will drop football completely. This is what ESPN wants. They would much rather cover 20 teams like a pro league than have to cover 100 teams.

As for the # of games. It's clear nobody gives a **** about safety.

It's clear ESPN has pushed this. Notice how over the last few years they have been actively encouraging players to skip "meaningless" bowls. They wanted to break the bowl system. Now all of a sudden when players get paid, they better be at the game like Penny Hardaway in Blue Chips.
 
SEC fans should be a bit concerned about paying players. I mean paying them officially. If it starts to be about which schools offer the most, they may start losing out. I don't mean Bama, but Miss State and the lower tiers could be ******.

Alumni will also factor into this. I've already heard that websites are being set up almost like go fund me where alums of schools can contribute to a particular player if they pick their school. Big money schools with huge alumni bases like Texas, Penn State, Notre Dame, Michigan, etc. will start getting players out of the south that they would not have gotten previously.

Now with transfer portals, it may end up being like MLB. A guy kicks *** on the Pirates then goes to play for NY or LA. Mid tier teams like Iowa, Kentucky, Virginia, Cal etc, might become like JV teams. Kid has a star freshman season for Missouri and next year he's got a Mercedes and plays for Texas A&M.

But there could be a flip side to that coin as well. Texas A&M buys that guy from Missouri then probably cuts somebody who was a pretty good recruit who then may transfer to a smaller school just to get guaranteed playing time.

If you are a fan of a big money team then paying players will probably be good for your team. But if you are a fan of a mid tier team, you may want to start shopping for a secondary team to root for because your team may be about to become a practice squad for the big teams.
 
12 is too many... and they better bar any more than two from any conference... 8 was the right call... the 5 power conference winners, the best non p5 conference winner, and two wild cards...
 
Also every major recruit already gets paid.. about once or twice a decade a big scandal breaks and that all comes out then nobody cares because everyone already knows it

remember when espn broke all those guys getting paid and every one nonchalantly fessed up except santonio, who got all squirrely for some reason...

This just puts it on the up and up... even smaller school recruits were getting stuff, now its just out in the open... nothing changes
 
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