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3rd for Darnold?

A fifth is about as high as I’d go as well. I don’t think he is very good.
 
A fifth is about as high as I’d go as well. I don’t think he is very good.
Perhaps but I have zero faith in that team in getting anyone to shine. For a 4th or a following seasons 5th I wouldn't lose sleep on giving him a shot. Throw enough against the wall and something will stick.
 
 
But Ben did not retire, and if he had, my guess is they look at Rudolph as much as Darnold. But either way this trade is not happening. Good chance Trask is on board at 24. I'd have more faith he could be QB of the future than Sam Darnold with his 213 yards per game and almost one to one TD to Int ratio.
It's a miracle that Darnold was able to win 13 games with that hapless team. He went 13-25 the last three seasons. Other Jets starters were 0-10. He's big, strong, and much more mobile than Trask, and Darnold was the #3 pick in the draft just three years ago. The guy clearly has ability.

By the way, Ben had an almost one-to-one TD to INT ratio over his last six games (13:9) too. Only he wasn't playing for the Jets.
 
I stand by my previous trade offer.


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I would be OK with taking a flier on him with an offer of a 4th or 5th rounder. I think a 3rd might be a bit much for us, simply because we’ve got a good track record of 3rd round picks recently.
But I agree Darnold has has absolute GARBAGE to work with in NY.
Ben’s done after this year. We won’t finish bad enough to get a top 5 of top 10 pick where we could land a future franchise QB, so it would make sense to have as many possible options,
 
Makes no sense to acquire him, because if Ben has healthy year, he gets no playing time to show what he can do and he would be free agent
at end of the year, unless Steelers exercise 20 yr option on player they don't know if he can play.
 
Latest article I saw has the Bear, Redskins (**** PC) and the Panthers as interested in Darnold now. I don't know. For the right pick (preferably next years), I might kick the tires. He's been stuck in a **** organization. He still has talent and a good arm. He would immediately compete with Rudolph for the backup spot and actually push Rudolph. Haskins is just fighting for a roster spot at this point. We always take 4 QB's to camp.
 
Makes no sense to acquire him, because if Ben has healthy year, he gets no playing time to show what he can do and he would be free agent
at end of the year, unless Steelers exercise 20 yr option on player they don't know if he can play.
The way it makes sense is if the Steelers already believe he can indeed play. Darnold isn't a rookie; he isn't some unknown. He's started 38 NFL games. They don't have to exercise that 5th year option...maybe they think they can sign him to a new longer-term deal at a reasonable price, while his stock is down.
 
If we’re gonna blow yet another pick on QB when ya already have 3 guys and a bunch of more pressing holes to fill I’d much rather waste the mid to late round pick on Jamie Newman than Darnold.

on the off off off chance that Darnold did pan out you have him this year at a higher number than a new mid round QB pick would net and be on the hook for like $18mil (guessing) for his fifth year option.

This play makes zero sense imho.
Wait for him to be cut or nothing higher than maybe a 5th next year.
 
I will bet anyone that we will not sign Darnald this year. I only make bets when I know I'll win. This is why Coach can't beat me in bets!!


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A 3rd isn’t bad while his stock is down. He’s worth kicking the tires on and dangling a carrot infront of the Jets for
 
I don't know if he's going to be worth 18million in 2022 so this is a hard deal to make. We would have to get him to agree to re-work his contract somehow and give up no more than a 2022 4th that could turn into a 3rd if we make the playoffs(since we should get a comp 3rd).
 
I don't know if he's going to be worth 18million in 2022 so this is a hard deal to make. We would have to get him to agree to re-work his contract somehow and give up no more than a 2022 4th that could turn into a 3rd if we make the playoffs(since we should get a comp 3rd).
An incentive laden new contract? It could go from 10M (base) up to 20 millions depending on performance?
 
An incentive laden new contract? It could go from 10M (base) up to 20 millions depending on performance?
Was thinking instead of 5/18/FA if we could make it something like 10m Sb 1m/6mil/15mil/void/void, potential out after 2022 with 6million dead money in 2023 if he sucks as a starter, or if he's good we redo the deal after 2022.

Given that if we believe at all in Rudolph(I don't), we're probably going to do a deal with him like that later this summer. I'd rather give that deal to Darnold.
 
I would offer this years 5th rounder for him . . .(snickers)

Because he isn't going anywhere for awhile?

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An incentive laden new contract? It could go from 10M (base) up to 20 millions depending on performance?
They're going to be doing the same thing with Rudolph. They won't let him walk after this season unless he truly doesn't want to stay.
 
They're going to be doing the same thing with Rudolph. They won't let him walk after this season unless he truly doesn't want to stay.
Noone really knows what they think of Rudolph, though.

Rudolph has had moments where he looked pretty good, even in 2019, but they were pretty quick to sign Haskins, even knowing Ben was likely to be back.
 
Noone really knows what they think of Rudolph, though.

Rudolph has had moments where he looked pretty good, even in 2019, but they were pretty quick to sign Haskins, even knowing Ben was likely to be back.
They have 2 QB's on the roster and usually take 4 to camp. They signed Haskins as a camp body to see if he can turn things around and make the roster. He has NO chance to unseat Rudolph as the No. 2 this year. Darnold would if he came in during OTA's and camp. Right now, they have no QB for 2022 signed. They will be offering Rudolph a contract of some sort (would have to be with heavy incentives if he is the starter and not so much if he is the backup). He will probably take it as he wouldn't want to go elsewhere and learn a new system. He is currently the starter when Ben retires. Haskins is just signed to try and make the roster. If he does more than that, great. If not, that's what most expect.
 
Good post TDX27.




What happens if BEN turns in a 4000+ yard passing and say 36 TD / 9 int season ??? I'd bet the STEELERS would play another year with him or worse case, roster him and see where it goes............???

I'm not predicting tthat to be his season but just saying what if ? Everyone here wants to trade for Sam Darnaold with no regards to his contract / cap implications. If BEN turns in close to that type of season then he will be on next year's roster.



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Good post TDX27.




What happens if BEN turns in a 4000+ yard passing and say 36 TD / 9 int season ??? I'd bet the STEELERS would play another year with him or worse case, roster him and see where it goes............???

I'm not predicting tthat to be his season but just saying what if ? Everyone here wants to trade for Sam Darnaold with no regards to his contract / cap implications. If BEN turns in close to that type of season then he will be on next year's roster.



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If Ben puts up those kinds of numbers and the win a playoff game, I'd bet he comes back for another year. Rudolph or even Darnold will have to sign contracts that pay them based on incentives if they are the starter and pay them probably a little more than a normal backup if they aren't the starter. Rudolph would go for it. Darnold, I'm not so sure. Either way, their contracts would probably only be for a year or two or three at the most. Then, if they are the starter at that point, they can sign a true starters contract.
 
Well that is overwith. Going to Carolina.
 
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