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3rd for Darnold?

Gotta get those pedigree pieces... failed first rounders are glamorous gets... name brands over actual production...,

well if they do it i hope he is a grand slam... they are due for one of those... alualu was like a triple... most were strikeouts...
 
This is what we have to look forward to once BEN if gone, bring in scraps and hope it sticks.

EDIT: you can sub the "scraps" with anything you feel is more appropriate

Salute the nation
 
Darnold has had **** to work with in NY. My guess is he is better than Rudolph. The only bad thing is I believe this is the final year of his rookie contract as well. Still not sure where these pundits think Haskins will be battling with anyone at this point. He's just coming to OTA's and camp hoping to make the team. Putting him in a battle for our future starter at this point is just ludicrous.
 
They have an 8th overall QB from Washington and a guy they supposedly had a first round grade on. If they make this deal they are not feeling good about those guys
 
SteelerSask said:
They have an 8th overall QB from Washington and a guy they supposedly had a first round grade on. If they make this deal they are not feeling good about those guys
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They shouldn't be feeling good about those guys. I would make the deal and send Haskins packing.
 
Id offer next year’s fifth at the most... my guess is that will be the best real offer they get...
 
I doubt very much that the Steelers value him better than Rudolph so I don't see this happening.
 
SteelerSask said:
They have an 8th overall QB from Washington and a guy they supposedly had a first round grade on. If they make this deal they are not feeling good about those guys
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For the sake of accuracy, Haskins was #15 overall, not #8. Not that it really matters...he sucks either way.

I'd love to see the Steelers give Darnold a chance.
 
my problem with any of these reclamation projects Haskins
/Darnold is I have no confidence in any QB coaching to actually make them better
 
Isn't he due like 20 something million this year in salary?
 
topseed said:
For the sake of accuracy, Haskins was #15 overall, not #8. Not that it really matters...he sucks either way.

I'd love to see the Steelers give Darnold a chance.
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Hell...why not...

They seem to be after reclamation projects or finding a diamond or two in the rough this off-season..

If they Jets draft a QB...I would offer a 4th this year and a 5th next for him.
 
steel dino said:
Hell...why not...

They seem to be after reclamation projects or finding a diamond or two in the rough this off-season..

If they Jets draft a QB...I would offer a 4th this year and a 5th next for him.
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yeap, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat
 
LeXX75 said:
my problem with any of these reclamation projects Haskins
/Darnold is I have no confidence in any QB coaching to actually make them better
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The Steelers have a new QBs coach. So that would be a wait and see.
 
troymania said:
Isn't he due like 20 something million this year in salary?
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If you're asking about Darnold, no. He's in the last year of his contract, with a $920,000 salary, $3.85 million roster bonus, and a $5.02 prorated signing bonus (which would stay with the Jets even if they trade him). So his cost to a new team in 2021 would be under $5 million.

You could be thinking about the 20 million for 2022 if the Steelers (or any other team acquiring Darnold) would decide to pick up his fifth-year option. He would be eligible for the third-highest tier, which is yet to be determined, but expected to be in the 15-20 million range. And that decision would have to be made by May 3rd.
 
topseed said:
If you're asking about Darnold, no. He's in the last year of his contract, with a $920,000 salary, $3.85 million roster bonus, and a $5.02 prorated signing bonus (which would stay with the Jets even if they trade him). So his cost to a new team in 2021 would be under $5 million.

You could be thinking about the 20 million for 2022 if the Steelers (or any other team acquiring Darnold) would decide to pick up his fifth-year option. He would be eligible for the third-highest tier, which is yet to be determined, but expected to be in the 15-20 million range. And that decision would have to be made by May 3rd.
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Well that ends this argument. This team is not trading for a guy that will cost close to 5 million dollars this year and a 15-20 million 2022 option. Not happening. Case closed.
 
topseed said:
If you're asking about Darnold, no. He's in the last year of his contract, with a $920,000 salary, $3.85 million roster bonus, and a $5.02 prorated signing bonus (which would stay with the Jets even if they trade him). So his cost to a new team in 2021 would be under $5 million.

You could be thinking about the 20 million for 2022 if the Steelers (or any other team acquiring Darnold) would decide to pick up his fifth-year option. He would be eligible for the third-highest tier, which is yet to be determined, but expected to be in the 15-20 million range. And that decision would have to be made by May 3rd.
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^This^

I’ll take it one step further. Why would NYJ pick up the 5th year option when they already know their future franchise QB is one month away? They could keep Darnold at his 4th year rookie salary and be their 3rd QB behind Flacco and the rookie. Better yet why pay the 3rd QB that much when you can sign another for $800k (minimum). Nope, if there isn’t a team going to trade for him, and why would they if they haven’t already, Darnold will be cut. Then he can choose where to go. Wherever he goes he’s getting a 1 year deal. He saw what happened to Rosen being dealt, I doubt he wants the same result. PIT could be a good opportunity for him like Haskins, and like Haskins he’s only getting a minimum one year deal.
 
SteelerSask said:
Well that ends this argument. This team is not trading for a guy that will cost close to 5 million dollars this year and a 15-20 million 2022 option. Not happening. Case closed.
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Actually, had Ben retired, it would have made perfect sense for the Steelers. Now, I don't know about "case closed," but it's unlikely.
 
Ike Kelly said:
^This^

I’ll take it one step further. Why would NYJ pick up the 5th year option when they already know their future franchise QB is one month away? They could keep Darnold at his 4th year rookie salary and be their 3rd QB behind Flacco and the rookie. Better yet why pay the 3rd QB that much when you can sign another for $800k (minimum). Nope, if there isn’t a team going to trade for him, and why would they if they haven’t already, Darnold will be cut. Then he can choose where to go. Wherever he goes he’s getting a 1 year deal. He saw what happened to Rosen being dealt, I doubt he wants the same result. PIT could be a good opportunity for him like Haskins, and like Haskins he’s only getting a minimum one year deal.
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First of all, Flacco signed with the Eagles.

But, yes, I agree that there is no way the Jets are going to pick up Darnold's fifth-year option. And they don't want to pay his roster bonus when training camp rolls around, either. That's why they're shopping him around now.
 
topseed said:
Actually, had Ben retired, it would have made perfect sense for the Steelers. Now, I don't know about "case closed," but it's unlikely.
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But Ben did not retire, and if he had, my guess is they look at Rudolph as much as Darnold. But either way this trade is not happening. Good chance Trask is on board at 24. I'd have more faith he could be QB of the future than Sam Darnold with his 213 yards per game and almost one to one TD to Int ratio.
 
topseed said:
First of all, Flacco signed with the Eagles.

But, yes, I agree that there is no way the Jets are going to pick up Darnold's fifth-year option. And they don't want to pay his roster bonus when training camp rolls around, either. That's why they're shopping him around now.
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Tip of the hat’ Top. It didn‘t hit me that he was a FA and signed with Philly. He’s a Jersey guy so he’s still close to home.
 
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