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Tomlin keeps Ben only to maintain "no losing season" streak?

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Now hear me out.... What is the chance that the main reason Tomlin kept Ben was to try and maintain his "no losing season" record? Tomlin has a history of records being meaningful to him even if they aren't meaningful to the success of the team (see ABs 5 catches for 50yrds streak). And while Tomlin's streak of no losing seasons is about as useful as ABs streak it is definitely important to him and I'm wondering if he wasn't looking at this team going "now there is no way we're going to be competitive without Ben. Maybe if I keep him just 1 more year I can keep my streak alive"? We've decimated the roster but I think as long as Ben is on the team 8-8 is pretty realistic. Problem is that keeping him meant losing other players that the team could have really benefited from but who might not have shown in the win category without a franchise QB and that's why Tomlin decided to have a team that has a competent QB but with not nearly the components around him to be a contender instead of keeping the roster mostly intact but not having a franchise QB for next year and having his first losing season.

Thoughts?
 
If you have taken the time, back at the lab you would realize that we do more than make popcorn in instances such as these. My deflection of the standard is less than the perceived above the neck play. We make slpash where it is needed and have a towel ready for wipe at any moment. My biggest fear is that you may be onto my indecision with-in the perameters of record holding.




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LOL, no coach here has ever had the authority to do anything of the sort. None of them. The Steelers are run by the Rooney family, nothing happens without their approval.
 
I wouldn’t think bringing back a 39 year old QB with not much of a line to protect him, no running game yet, we shall see, and minus your possession receiver in JuJu would be a good plan to have a non losing season.
 
TWEEK1106 said:
Now hear me out.... What is the chance that the main reason Tomlin kept Ben was to try and maintain his "no losing season" record? Tomlin has a history of records being meaningful to him even if they aren't meaningful to the success of the team (see ABs 5 catches for 50yrds streak). And while Tomlin's streak of no losing seasons is about as useful as ABs streak it is definitely important to him and I'm wondering if he wasn't looking at this team going "now there is no way we're going to be competitive without Ben. Maybe if I keep him just 1 more year I can keep my streak alive"? We've decimated the roster but I think as long as Ben is on the team 8-8 is pretty realistic. Problem is that keeping him meant losing other players that the team could have really benefited from but who might not have shown in the win category without a franchise QB and that's why Tomlin decided to have a team that has a competent QB but with not nearly the components around him to be a contender instead of keeping the roster mostly intact but not having a franchise QB for next year and having his first losing season.

Thoughts?
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Tweek, you get a transfusion from Coach recently? Please provide links denoting Tomlin has a history of records being meaningful. The only record I’ve ever heard him comment on is Lombardi trophies. To emphasize, when Willie Parker was in the running for a team Rushing record or League Rushing title, he stated the only record that’s meaningful is how many SB trophies their are in the glass case at the entrance to the Steelers offices
 
Ike Kelly said:
Tweek, you get a transfusion from Coach recently? Please provide links denoting Tomlin has a history of records being meaningful. The only record I’ve ever heard him comment on is Lombardi trophies. To emphasize, when Willie Parker was in the running for a team Rushing record or League Rushing title, he stated the only record that’s meaningful is how many SB trophies their are in the glass case at the entrance to the Steelers offices
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Shhhh ... Quiet .... The narrative must be satisfied. Tomlin is the fooseball debil. :ROFLMAO: :rolleyes:
 
blitzburgh418 said:
He went 8&8 with mason and duck
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That season can be looked at two fold. He went all the way down to a third stringer and still managed not to have a losing season. With a highly touted QB that wasn't a rookie he yet again missed the playoffs. I guess it is which way you lay on the pillow.
 
slashsteel said:
That season can be looked at two fold. He went all the way down to a third stringer and still managed not to have a losing season. With a highly touted QB that wasn't a rookie he yet again missed the playoffs. I guess it is which way you lay on the pillow.
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Who was the highly touted QB in 2019? Please don't say Mason Rudolph Slash.
 
SteelBuckeye said:
Who was the highly touted QB in 2019? Please don't say Mason Rudolph Slash.
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That is who they had a 1st round grade on right? I would consider first round prospects highly touted right?
 
This team out of the gate with tomlin, butler, Canada, reguardless of Ben, will be lucky to win 6 games... we’ll struggle to beat bengals
 
Ike Kelly said:
Tweek, you get a transfusion from Coach recently? Please provide links denoting Tomlin has a history of records being meaningful. The only record I’ve ever heard him comment on is Lombardi trophies. To emphasize, when Willie Parker was in the running for a team Rushing record or League Rushing title, he stated the only record that’s meaningful is how many SB trophies their are in the glass case at the entrance to the Steelers office
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stuntmanmike said:
This team out of the gate with tomlin, butler, Canada, reguardless of Ben, will be lucky to win 6 games... we’ll struggle to beat bengals
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We lost to them with Ben against some scrub QB at end of last season. Maybe we’re being too hard on the boys. They still have moves to make and a draft. Lots can change between now and start of season.
 
slashsteel said:
That is who they had a 1st round grade on right? I would consider first round prospects highly touted right?
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I'll say this every time I hear the Steelers thought Rudolph was a first-round prospect. They're lying. In no world do they take Edmunds and Washington over a QB who they though had first-round talent. Not a chance.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I'll say this every time I hear the Steelers thought Rudolph was a first-round prospect. They're lying. In no world do they take Edmunds and Washington over a QB who they though had first-round talent. Not a chance.
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Maybe they were blowing smoke up our arse. So far he has played like a ______ rounder. I will let you Yinzers er or Yinzhers fill in the blank.🤓
 
slashsteel said:
That is who they had a 1st round grade on right? I would consider first round prospects highly touted right?
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OH, I thought you meant that Mason was highly touted outside of their own building. 'Cause outside of the Steelers, I don't think many people would have considered him as "touted" ... let alone "Highly Touted". J.A.G.
 
stuntmanmike said:
This team out of the gate with tomlin, butler, Canada, reguardless of Ben, will be lucky to win 6 games... we’ll struggle to beat bengals
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8-8 next season, if Shades unleashes hell maybe 9-7.
 
slashsteel said:
Don't forget about that for sure extra game.
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Last I looked they weren't saying for sure until May. Of course with an odd number of games then Shades can't go .500.
 
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