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Should the NFL allow field goal tending?

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Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1 (informally known as the "Stroud Rule"): "Goal tending by any player leaping up to deflect a kick as it passes above the crossbar of a goal post is prohibited. The referee may award 3 points for a palpably unfair act"


Time to change this. Kickers are too good. Let a tall guy who can jump try to block it ( without touching the goal post ) . It would be a fan-friendly denial type of play. Sure this might only happen a few times a year, but so what. Tall guys that can jump can clear 12+ feet, two feet over the goal post. Enough to deny some long field goals. How many field goals clear the bar by this amount? I don't know. The amount that do are probably few, but the play itself, when it happens I think would add something to the game.


In the name of Morris Stroud, who earned a name for himself doing this before it was banned, why not?
 
I have no problem with it, and I'm surprised it's not currenltly allowed. The FG is already high enough, very few people are able to jump up to make a play on the ball, paired with the infrequency that the ball is within 2 feet of the crossbar, since that is about as high as anyone can jump.

I know on long FGs sometimes a returner is placed there in case the kick is short. Now they just need to be taller, like Claypool?
 
madinsomniac said:
It happened exactly once in the nfl then they immediately banned it... what in the **** makes you think they would do anything that takes points off the board for any reason
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ALSO that "tall" player would have a better chance of blocking the low projectory kick needed for distance, at the line of scrimmage rather than at the goal post. Like you said 1st off no points are going to have a chance of not happening (FF would suffer), 2nd. It ONLY happened once in NFL history and very slim chance of happening again.

As rediculous as this sounds it is a pretty good post of topic to discuss. Never thought about this ever before.






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madinsomniac said:
It happened exactly once in the nfl then they immediately banned it... what in the **** makes you think they would do anything that takes points off the board for any reason
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Source? I think it happened more than once. The NFL has limited kickers over the years, move the ball back to the stop of the kick, and moving extra points back additional yards which lead to misses. So they have in fact taken points off the board.

Kickers have greatly improved over the decades. Why not add a little more drama to the game? I'm not sure why the NFL felt this was unfair, the game ideally rooted with 11 guys saying we are going to the move the ball here and score points , and another 11 guys saying we are going to do our best to stop it.
 
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Drink IRON City ALSO that "tall" player would have a better chance of blocking the low projectory kick needed for distance, at the line of scrimmage rather than at the goal post. Like you said 1st off no points are going to have a chance of not happening (FF would suffer), 2nd. It ONLY happened once in NFL history and very slim chance of happening again.

As rediculous as this sounds it is a pretty good post of topic to discuss. Never thought about this ever before.
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I think it could happen a few times a year. How many total field goals kicked in a given year field clear the bar by 2 feet or less? The bar is only 10 feet high. If this was college football and this rule was allowed, you sure could give a roster spot to a kick blocker as you are allowed to suit up 82 players ( I think )


Essentially they would be tall guys who can jump but don't have enough basketball skills to make it. The NFL is full of guys 6'-4"-6'6" that can jump.


The NFL might like it, as they have put in a rule to discourage long field goals by spotting a missed FG not at the LOS, but at the spot of the kick, 6-7 yards back. Why not allow a player a chance to swat the ball away?
 
Coach said:
Source? I think it happened more than once. The NFL has limited kickers over the years, move the ball back to the stop of the kick, and moving extra points back additional yards which lead to misses. So they have in fact taken points off the board.

Kickers have greatly improved over the decades. Why not add a little more drama to the game? I'm not sure why the NFL felt this was unfair, the game ideally rooted with 11 guys saying we are going to the move the ball here and score points , and another 11 guys saying we are going to do our best to stop it.
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I Had an old book of weird sports stories that had an article on I think it was The head coach Stram and Stroud... Stram had Morris stroud at TE and tge dude was like nearly 7’ so he figured why the hell not let him goaltend...

He was back there several games but im fairly certain he only actually Blocked one ever before the competition committee had a hissy fit and barred it

Nfl rules happen either because someone got hurt or killed, or they want more scoring in the game lol
 
Side note... if they are going to start eliminating rules, thry should allow player tossing again... back before the forward pass was a thing, teams started to get small guys, sew handles on their uniforms, and have two players heave-ho them over the scrum at the line of scrimmage with the ball...

Iirc, there were some deaths or big injuries or something
 
madinsomniac said:
Side note... if they are going to start eliminating rules, thry should allow player tossing again... back before the forward pass was a thing, teams started to get small guys, sew handles on their uniforms, and have two players heave-ho them over the scrum at the line of scrimmage with the ball...

Iirc, there were some deaths or big injuries or something
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you mean advanced dwarf tossing?

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Coach said:
I think it could happen a few times a year. How many total field goals kicked in a given year field clear the bar by 2 feet or less? The bar is only 10 feet high. If this was college football and this rule was allowed, you sure could give a roster spot to a kick blocker as you are allowed to suit up 82 players ( I think )


Essentially they would be tall guys who can jump but don't have enough basketball skills to make it. The NFL is full of guys 6'-4"-6'6" that can jump.


The NFL might like it, as they have put in a rule to discourage long field goals by spotting a missed FG not at the LOS, but at the spot of the kick, 6-7 yards back. Why not allow a player a chance to swat the ball away?
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This could open up a whole new drafting strategy. You could draft those acrobats for field goal situations. The ones that stand on each other shoulders. You could probably put at least 4 on top of each other. That would cover 20-24 ft. Would make the kicker have to aim in a direction. Of course you would have to expand the roster size and cap space. Be kind of interesting in the snow,on windy days.
Now that would be entertainment!
 
I would not want to see this. I would much rather they raise the bar from 10 to 15 feet. Most long kicks barely make it over the crossbar. If you raise it up 5 feet. it would reduce makeable FG range significantly. Only a few kickers would be able to hit from 50+ and almost none from 55+
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
I would not want to see this. I would much rather they raise the bar from 10 to 15 feet. Most long kicks barely make it over the crossbar. If you raise it up 5 feet. it would reduce makeable FG range significantly. Only a few kickers would be able to hit from 50+ and almost none from 55+
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Moving the bar up 5 feet would screw too much with the history of the game. I'd would love to see that punk Tucker try to hit a long game winning field goal vs the Steelers, only to be blocked by Claypool.

If I were King, I'd allow field goal blocks in the end zone , plus move the kickoffs back 5 yards where they used to be. Touchbacks have to be the most boring play in football. And while they are at it, expand the roster to 60 men and let them all dress.
 
My dad used to tell me of an old 49er in the 60s named RC Owens that frequently goal tended.

He told me that before Gore invented the internet so I never looked it up. I forgot about it until reading this thread. I might go look it up. Assuming I’m still curious after finishing these here beers.
 
The NBA is filled with players way taller than 6'6" and their hoop is 10' up. How many of them can touch the top of the backboard? Not many. That's what you're asking for to be useful at blocking a FG.

DIC said it best, use the hight at the LOS for the best chance to get a block using their height.
 
I'm not against a block of that nature but I don't think it would be near the factor some believe. They already have a rule against dunking it over the goal post due to pulling it down or making it not level. I could see that as maybe a problem as well. When Chase's rookie contract is up he is going to be expensive to keep yet alone adding to pay him for his second position of goal tending.

I can see it now, extra padding for catapult plays or even the lift up rugby style.





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Seriously there are many other issues in the NFL...this is by far one that really shouldn't even come up. Who really cares?
 
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Nah. The ones that barely cross the bar are from long range. I would not want to hear that some kicker had enough leg to make a 66 yarder, and would've made it, but it was blocked at the cross bar.
 
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