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That explains 3, 4, or even 5 times the death toll? Huh.
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They are approved by the FDA, but not the PA government UNLESS N95s are not available. I do believe this only applies to yellow zones in buildings though. Currently our whole building is yellow though and the PA dept of health comes in and staff is all wearing KN95s when we have N95s available we will get cited. It is a beyond stupid regulation, but we have to play by their rules. If there were active cases in a building I could understand, but it is stupid to use up the good stuff because we wont have it if really needed. Alot of our nursing staff has smaller faces and the duckbills and pleated N95s we have are not fitting properly. Small N95s are like trying to find a needle in a haystack right now. I have been picking up a few of the half respirators with the pancake filters, but they are hard for staff to work in all day. I have been trying to persuade them to use a new test because we keep getting positives and people have 0 symptoms. 15 out of 60 or so staff who were tested on Monday came back positive, but 0 residents have tested positive so far. Stuff is just not adding up. Our DON said something about allergies possibly triggering positives, but I dont know?
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Other companies are still selling their N95 brands for around $20 so for a company like 3M to double prices is a bit excessive. Sure they are taking on extra costs, but they are also selling a **** ton more product which would offset that extra cost. Our supply cost went up astronomically though all this, but we sure are not charging double, triple, or 5x the normal amount to our residents. I was mainly referencing the resellers on amazon who buy up what they can and sell a 20 pack for $100-120.
Hospitals were laying workers off because of no elective surgeries (lucky I had my rotator cuff done on March 3) and Trump sent NYC a hospital ship and an Army field hospital that were hardly used. People were dying in nursing homes for the most part, not hospitals. I know this because my office in Pittsburgh was taking calls for the cremation society in NJ for the whole month of April because the folks in the NJ office were literally too busy to answer the phone.
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The evidence would seem to indicate that the greatest predictor is population density.
Last I looked, the European country with the highest infection rate and death rate was Spain, which for whatever reason you don't hear much about in the U.S. Of the top of my head, I don't know what Spain did or didn't do.
The pa govt! What! Wrong. Kn95 are approved for use, period.
FWIW, my wife is a dental hygienist so she's around the tiny aerosols that transport the virus which is supposedly smaller than most, and after a couple months is still getting along OK. Her PPE
is comprised of an N95 with a surgical mask covering it, a face shield, full gown, cap, shoe covers and of course gloves. She got a call from the VA Health Dept few weeks ago notifying her that one of her patients had the COVID and just the day before feeling the effects and taking the test, she had her dental appointment. So it's a fact the PPE works if worn correctly. Leak checks must be performed extremely carefully and routinely. My wife is in charge of that for her office and it's not pleasant. The subject with the N95 on puts this veil like thing over their head and a very smelly, rank tasting spray is sprayed into the veil. If the subject tastes or smells it, a refitting is required.
So I ask again, what's the point of wearing masks and face coverings that don't filter out the aerosols? It's a waste of time, money and people miss seeing my smiling face when I'm buying beer and chili supplies in the grocery store
is comprised of an N95 with a surgical mask covering it, a face shield, full gown, cap, shoe covers and of course gloves. She got a call from the VA Health Dept few weeks ago notifying her that one of her patients had the COVID and just the day before feeling the effects and taking the test, she had her dental appointment. So it's a fact the PPE works if worn correctly. Leak checks must be performed extremely carefully and routinely. My wife is in charge of that for her office and it's not pleasant. The subject with the N95 on puts this veil like thing over their head and a very smelly, rank tasting spray is sprayed into the veil. If the subject tastes or smells it, a refitting is required.
So I ask again, what's the point of wearing masks and face coverings that don't filter out the aerosols? It's a waste of time, money and people miss seeing my smiling face when I'm buying beer and chili supplies in the grocery store
ICS, what lake were you on? Great looking place to chill with like minded water people.
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Looks peaceful and peaceful is good!
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I'll show you the regulation Monday. i was sitting by our infection control officer while she was reading
Here is a snippet
"The respirators distributed by each facility must be approved by the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health, or if those are not available, respirators must be approved by the Food and Drug Administration, including those approved through an Emergency Use Authorization."
So its saying they must be Niosh approved which KN95s are not. You can only use KN95s if others are not available. This takes effect Aug 27th
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It does if you're an idiot.
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"A bad day at the lake is better than a good day at work."
I have known this to be true.
Lake Monroe. It’s in the Poconos
Our spot kinda sucked for swimming. Off the dock was only like 3ft and the bottom was 3-4in of muck. I went out like 100 feet and didn’t get deeper. So swimming for me and the kids was not pleasant. We normally do lake Ariel which is amazing.
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Didn’t mean to like that.
This??
https://www.media.pa.gov/Pages/Health-Details.aspx?newsid=968
The order requires nursing homes, personal care homes, assisted living residences and private intermediate care facilities to develop, implement and adhere to policies and procedures to procure and distribute personal protective equipment (PPE) to staff providing direct care to COVID-19 positive residents by Thursday, August 27.
The policies and procedures must, at a minimum, include the distribution of respirators, such as N95 masks, to staff providing direct patient care to residents who are or suspected of being COVID-19 positive and to staff assigned to provide direct patient care in COVID-19 units
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My part came from that article, but i think there is an official memo vs the press release. The part you highlighted is simply what must be encompassed in the plan. If you read further you will see the part i posted. The one thing i need to clarify is this states "residents who are suspected as being covid positive." We have red, yellow, and green zones. Red is for people who tested positive, yellow is for new admits, or residents who come back from hospital, or dialysis patients. If a resident on a wing tests positive they get moved to the red zone, but the wing they came from goes from green to yellow. Our wings are like 30 residents. I will have to see if yellow zones are included in this new policy. Regardless the policy still states that N95s are to be used if available. If you don't have any you are permitted to use the kn95s. The state knows your inventory though because we are required to send it. I am not sure if it's daily or weekly, but they have a record of what we have on hand
I have many homes in pa. We have and will continue to use kn95s
Edit. We are also testing a new (approved and COST affective to operate) an N95 that is a sheet. Basically it look like a piece of paper with a sticky backing that you peel off. Then you adhere this to your face starting at the nose working down. The seal is ******* incredible. It’s less restrictive to breathing, approved and COST affective.
Let me also add that the “pa reg” or whatever you want to say that is, is missing some key ******* points that less attentive homes will miss out. You need to ******* fit test these folks including the medical evals or osha be a calling.
**** wolf.
Edit. We are also testing a new (approved and COST affective to operate) an N95 that is a sheet. Basically it look like a piece of paper with a sticky backing that you peel off. Then you adhere this to your face starting at the nose working down. The seal is ******* incredible. It’s less restrictive to breathing, approved and COST affective.
Let me also add that the “pa reg” or whatever you want to say that is, is missing some key ******* points that less attentive homes will miss out. You need to ******* fit test these folks including the medical evals or osha be a calling.
**** wolf.
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You'll have to let us know what the incidence of skin irritation is due to the adhesive, I'm guessing it may be an issue.
Last day of chinesevirus vacay
Man what an incredible looking sky and scene right there, can't stop looking at it. Being there (minus the swimming) had to have been a blast and should be a great memory for your family. One thing I've noticed that's pretty evident ever since this whole shitstorm started, is an appreciation for nature and all the little things that make our planet great. Or maybe it was my taking it for granted beforehand. Either way, sure as hell don't now and then some.
Not sure if you're familiar with it but going up to Yosemite National Park in Northern California next month and can't freakin wait. Like you and Tim, will snap some photos.
Minor so far. My big issue will be (not so much coming soon) is sweat and the device become less adhered too. This the reason for the pilot. We got skin issues now with some (limited) due to masks, and the respirators (though I don’t consider these N95s or equivalent as “respirators” per the standard).
That said, I do look at these as somewhat revolutionary. My boss has shown off hers on multiple calls using the same one. I think she I up to about twenty times and the adhesive still works. That’s incredible in a time of “extended use”.
It was a national lampoons vacation lol. We lost our original place mid July bc he sold it and the new owner was taking the rentals. So it was slim pickings for the week my wife could go. We knew the home was ehh. But my take was **** it, I’m only in the home to sleep. I’ll be swimming, fishing, getting some rays, and that fire action.
Jumping into the water was like ****. The no fish action was like ****(guessing they didn’t want those night crawlers or the muck). We took the kids to the water park and my daughter got her period as we were changing. ****. Wife handled that thank god. Had a great tim after that. We also did a 6mile Delaware water gap raft trip that was great. Well to start. The fam didn’t realize you had to paddle even though there was a current. Lol. All in all I made the best of it. Love the fires at night watching the beautiful settings and listening to some nice tunes. I enjoyed being disconnected
Trump to reveal coronavirus 'breakthrough' therapeutic, WH press secretary says
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-reveal-coronavirus-breakthrough-therapeutic-wh-press-secretary-says
Anybody want to guess what it might be? Kind of suspicious since it is the eve of the GOP convention start.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-reveal-coronavirus-breakthrough-therapeutic-wh-press-secretary-says
Anybody want to guess what it might be? Kind of suspicious since it is the eve of the GOP convention start.
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