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Interesting HOF snubs of the PITTSBURGH STEELERS

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Bill Nunn is LONG overdue. Out of all of those deserved candidates, he is above and beyond the most deserved. Dwight White and LC Greenwood not being in the Hall is just downright wrong. So many from that Defense got in and it feels like the committee is saying "We can't put the whole defense into the Hall" to which I say...the hell you can't!!
 
Just build the extra wing and be done with it
 
That bull-chyt of to many STEELERS from the same team / era are already in is a crock of liquid poo.

These next 5 years will tell the story.


Don't the cheaters have enough SB trophies yet they still let them cheat..............

It's odd how the honest franchise has a stockpile of HOF snubs and yet the cheaters don't even have a stock pile in the HOF itself.




LLOYD is borderline, could go either way but because I wear B & G glasses he should be in.

DUNN is definitely a snub.



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Cope said:
Neither do Lynn Swann's, yet here we are.
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Yeah but like Blitz said totally different era. Plus he made some pretty huge plays in 4 championship games. Greg Lloyd only gets into HOF with a ticket. He was DPOY one season which is something. If he hasn't been a finalist or strong candidate to this point it isn't happening.
 
Xc944 said:
He was the best at his position for a few years. To me that’s whAt a Hall of famer is ,someone who was the best.
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As a 3-4 outside Linebacker or an edge rusher? Cause I'm pretty sure Derrick Thomas was a better player. Greg Lloyd maxed out at 10 sacks in 1994. Greg Lloyd's numbers are no where near HOF.
 
I'm not saying Swann isn't a HOFer, he passes the eye test, but he's got some of the lowest stats for any WR in the HOF.

Also look to Terrell Davis, great for a short amount of time, low *** stats for a RB, but made the HOF.

My argument is Lloyd also passed the eye test, was dominant for a short amount of time, and has low stats for a LB. He still has a legit shot IMHO, albeit an outside one.
 
Cope said:
I'm not saying Swann isn't a HOFer, he passes the eye test, but he's got some of the lowest stats for any WR in the HOF.

Also look to Terrell Davis, great for a short amount of time, low *** stats for a RB, but made the HOF.

My argument is Lloyd also passed the eye test, was dominant for a short amount of time, and has low stats for a LB. He still has a legit shot IMHO, albeit an outside one.
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There are a lot of players that pass the eye test though. By "eye test" you probably mean "exceptional".

Lynn Swann may not have had the numbers but he was exceptional. He is in the HOF in my opinion because never was there a player before Swann that could do what he did. He displayed such acrobatic ability and could "literally" fly to the ball. All Bradshaw had to do was throw the ball in the vicinity.

I think Hines Ward is HOF worthy. Ultimate team player. No WR ever busted their *** on every play like he did, making him the best blocking WR in NFL history. I think that is exceptional.

An old article on why he wont be a HOF.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...urgh-steelers-receiver-is-not-a-hall-of-famer
 
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Stewey said:
There are a lot of players that pass the eye test though. By "eye test" you probably mean "exceptional".

Lynn Swann may not have had the numbers but he was exceptional. He is in the HOF in my opinion because never was there a player before Swann that could do what he did. He displayed such acrobatic ability and could "literally" fly to the ball. All Bradshaw had to do was throw the ball in the vicinity.

I think Hines Ward is HOF worthy. Ultimate team player. No WR ever busted their *** on every play like he did, making him the best blocking WR in NFL history. I think that is exceptional.

An old article on why he wont be a HOF.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...urgh-steelers-receiver-is-not-a-hall-of-famer
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Article is obsolete.

The “backlog” of WRs has already burned through a # of them.

Ward’s biggest obstacle is anti-Steelers bias. There are a lot of Steelers already in — and voters aren’t always objective.


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L.C.Greenwood! Though I'm totally happy Donnie Shell is getting his just due. It's a shame White&Greenwood are not in as well. I am a tad biased when it comes to all of those guys. As many who are in the HOF have said I wouldn't be here without Greenwood&White. At least I got to watch them play as a kid. Which was probably the coolest time ever to be watching the NFL.
 
Dwight White's wife was from my neighborhood. We've wave at him when he'd drive down the street and he'd wave back. When you're 12 years old that's a big deal.
 
Stats do not tell the whole story. I think Kirkland is a better example than Lloyd. But when you are buried at like 100 on all time sacks as a pass rusher. You are not getting in.
 
SteelerSask said:
Yeah but like Blitz said totally different era. Plus he made some pretty huge plays in 4 championship games. Greg Lloyd only gets into HOF with a ticket. He was DPOY one season which is something. If he hasn't been a finalist or strong candidate to this point it isn't happening.
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Lloyd might have been a bit overrated.

For years, he was decent, but never really became a great player until he had Kevin Greene playing across from him.

He developed the staph infection the year that Greene left, so we really don't know if he could have sustained an Allpro level of play without Greene.

Also, Chad Brown might have been better than Lloyd in the season he replaced him before leaving in free agency
 
Lloyd was opposite of overrated and was more than just “decent” before Kevin Green.

Don’t know if you’re old enough to have watched the late 80s teams more than through lens of a kid; but if you are you’d know he was right behind Woodson as driving force of Steelers resurgence beginning in 1989.

Injuries kept him off field to start his career & ended his career early. But for 5 years he was best OLB in the game.

Can’t sell otherwise on could he continue without Green. Healthy Lloyd would have been just fine with Jason Gildon on other side.

Stats/sacks—don’t tell the whole story either. As a point of reference: Joey Porter was a 10 sack best guy with like Lloyd—but the mid-90s & 2000s Steelers had something in common; sacrificing stats for wins. Porter had 18 with Dolphins his first year; obviously he could have had more on Steelers... but would they have had 2 of the best 3 regular seasons (13/15 wins) if they were about individual #s? The 2005 Super Bowl team—same thing. Lloyd & his Steelers were same way.

Just another “stat” line to throw out. Ben Roethlisberger is 1 of 19 QBs with 500 yard games (the only one with 3)... while they won all 3 of those games—Ben also broke Dan Marino’s record for most 450+ yard games (6)... would it surprise you to know the Steelers are 1-9 in games Ben threw for “only” 400 yards? Take that to 380+ yard games—still only 4 wins (counting the 3 rare 500 yard games) and 13 losses.

Lloyd was beating heart of Steelers original Blitzburgh. Can never forget about how vs. San Diego in 1995, after an INT; our reserve CB—satisfied with the pick laid on the ground. Lloyd literally picked him up as pushed him to run it back for the pick-6. Same season; vs. Bears the D under-performed & it was the offense that led the way to the win. Lloyd went to O’Donnell and gave a hug; & for the first time the defense accepted the offense & they became a full team.

It’s a shame timing didn’t line up for Lloyd. That 1994 AFCCG loss still eclipses the fluke 2 special teams TD one vs. Pats (the year Bettis best season was derailed by a groin injury). 3 bad plays all game was all SD needed as O’Donnell couldn’t get it done at all after 1st drive. Super Bowl XXX had a terrible start—but the D settled down and dominated the Cowboys. Again the offense was terrible—just imagine in Jerome Bettis was there one year earlier & Woodson was healthy.

Lloyd didn’t have a Ben Roethlisberger at QB—and only 1/3 seasons when Steelers were elite that both he & Rod Woodson were healthy.

Joey Porter/James Harrison had Troy Polamalu complimenting them in 3 SB runs.

It takes a team — but underselling Lloyd and what he was for his run is not close to accurate


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