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Derrick Henry

tapeANaspirin2it said:
He'll be broken down in about 2 years. He's good but not great. The titans OL is dominating. The Titans should draft another RB and let Henry leave
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nonsense. he has the physique and sheer size to be just fine two years from now. the titans o-line is doing a great job, yes, but don't try and tell me that you could just plug in any random ol' jerkoff in their backfield and it would be the same. it wouldn't, and you know this. Let him leave? Sometimes you post **** on here that blows my mind.
 
I don't think he's a special talent. He's not Zeke or Barkley or McCaffrey who can all be factors in the passing game as well. The Ravens got Mark Ingram off the street. The Saints replaced Ingram with Latavius Murray off the street. Those are examples of teams that are strong on the OL and were able to plug and play RBs. I think the Titans could do the same.

RBs go downhill fast, especially big, physical RBs like Henry. I think they need to spend that money other places. Look at the draft. Look at how RBs have been falling in the draft. It used to be that round 1 was littered with RBs and now that's more Round 2. The true 3 down RBs like Barkley McCaffrey and Zeke still go high but the ball carriers go later.

The Jags were insane for picking Fournette with such a high pick. The Rams are regretting giving Gurley a big contract.

The Chargers allowed Gordon to hold out and didn't pay him. Lev Bell sat out a season and didn'rt break the bank.

Sure, you try to sign Henry. If you can get him for a reasonable contract then great but if they give him Gurley or Zeke money, they are crazy.
 
Omar10213245 said:
nonsense. he has the physique and sheer size to be just fine two years from now. the titans o-line is doing a great job, yes, but don't try and tell me that you could just plug in any random ol' jerkoff in their backfield and it would be the same. it wouldn't, and you know this. Let him leave? Sometimes you post **** on here that blows my mind.
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He's a great back.

To me, he looks a lot like Adrian Peterson did in his prime.

The combination of speed, power and vision is rare. He doesn't have a lot moves, but when he does make a cut, it always seems to be the exact right one on given play.

With that being said, I still would not give him a big contract in today's NFL.

Even though they're carrying the ball less than in the past, the primes of NFL RBs get shorter all the time, probably because the guys tackling them continue to get stronger and faster.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
I don't think he's a special talent. He's not Zeke or Barkley or McCaffrey who can all be factors in the passing game as well. The Ravens got Mark Ingram off the street. The Saints replaced Ingram with Latavius Murray off the street. Those are examples of teams that are strong on the OL and were able to plug and play RBs. I think the Titans could do the same.

RBs go downhill fast, especially big, physical RBs like Henry. I think they need to spend that money other places. Look at the draft. Look at how RBs have been falling in the draft. It used to be that round 1 was littered with RBs and now that's more Round 2. The true 3 down RBs like Barkley McCaffrey and Zeke still go high but the ball carriers go later.

The Jags were insane for picking Fournette with such a high pick. The Rams are regretting giving Gurley a big contract.

The Chargers allowed Gordon to hold out and didn't pay him. Lev Bell sat out a season and didn'rt break the bank.

Sure, you try to sign Henry. If you can get him for a reasonable contract then great but if they give him Gurley or Zeke money, they are crazy.
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I'm with you are not giving Henry a huge contract, but disagree with you on his talent.

If you have the blocking, you can have a good running game with average backs, but guys like Henry can consistently turn the 10-15yd runs into the longer, game breaking plays.

It's not easy to properly value guys like that in today's NFL, given how abundant capable RBs seem to be, but guys like Henry definitely bring more value than the average back off the street.
 
So dont sign Dupree, sign this guy, and let the staff find out how good the backups are at olb...

I mean tge Titans aren’t going to let him go... but it’s a nice pipe dream lol

Has a shot to be known as the best big back, maybe ever... has speed, can cut... he is a monster, but he isn’t a total package back or anything...
 
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Not every RB could run through 3 tacklers on that 60+ yard run that Henry did against the rats. However, I still stick to my philosophy on RBs. You don't pay them huge money. Henry is a great RB but in today's NFL the RB position has been devalued. You have to control the LOS.
 
I think Zeke is highly overrated. I mean he is a good back, but he is a bit slow and not a huge receiving threat. Also the Dallas Oline is usually well above average. I would say Henry is every bit as good as Zeke. I think Barkley and McCaffrey are special talents and in their own category right now.
 
Vader said:
Not every RB could run through 3 tacklers on that 60+ yard run that Henry did against the rats. However, I still stick to my philosophy on RBs. You don't pay them huge money. Henry is a great RB but in today's NFL the RB position has been devalued. You have to control the LOS.
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What's your thoughts on taking one in the second round this year?
 
SteelerFan448 said:
What's your thoughts on taking one in the second round this year?
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Right now I don't know because I don't know what they are going to do with Dupree and I don't know who they are going to lose via FA. There are also other underclassmen who haven't made decisions yet. I'm not totally against it but lot of it depends on what happens when FA starts.
 
Henry is a beast. He has a body type that appears as if it can withstand a longer NFL career v some of the smaller RBs who get worn down quicker.

TN will over pay for him to keep him in town. We need to draft an RB or find one to either push or replace Conner.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
I don't think he's a special talent. He's not Zeke or Barkley or McCaffrey who can all be factors in the passing game as well. The Ravens got Mark Ingram off the street. The Saints replaced Ingram with Latavius Murray off the street. Those are examples of teams that are strong on the OL and were able to plug and play RBs. I think the Titans could do the same.

RBs go downhill fast, especially big, physical RBs like Henry. I think they need to spend that money other places. Look at the draft. Look at how RBs have been falling in the draft. It used to be that round 1 was littered with RBs and now that's more Round 2. The true 3 down RBs like Barkley McCaffrey and Zeke still go high but the ball carriers go later.
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I'm SHOCKED!! SHOCKED!! Tape doesn't like Henry (Bama) but loves Zeke (OSU), Barkley (Penn), and McCaffrey (Stanford).... He also thinks Fournette (LSU) and Gurley (Georgia) are over paid... but not Zeke who did absolutely nothing this year. hahaha
 
Something I have been saying for quite a while is where is the tipping point. Teams keep going with smaller, lighter, faster and more athletic linebackers. At what point does someone get a huge bruiser back and a big line and steam role teams again. Make no mistake about it, this is Henry AND his interior three zone blocking the **** out of teams and basically saying you can have one extra, but you will not arm tackle this dude. What shocks me is they can do this with sub 100 yard passing and 50% completion. I can't believe other teams are not saying they will just go man and attack the run till Tannehill proves he can do something.
 
Vader said:
I'm SHOCKED!! SHOCKED!! Tape doesn't like Henry (Bama) but loves Zeke (OSU), Barkley (Penn), and McCaffrey (Stanford).... He also thinks Fournette (LSU) and Gurley (Georgia) are over paid... but not Zeke who did absolutely nothing this year. hahaha
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gurley was deserving of big money but not that big. His predictable injury only proves why giving so much to a RB is a bad idea.

As I mentioned, Zeke, Barkley, and McCaffrey are also factors in the passing game. That is the only type of RB that should be considered in giving big money. Gurley was also a factor in the pass game prior to injury. Henry and Fournette are not factors in the passing game. When I say factor, I don’t mean just catching some checkdowns. I mean being able to run WR routes and forcing the D to cover a RB with more than just a LB. Zeke, Barkley, and McCaffrey are all those guys.

The Cowboys did overpay for Zeke and their OC did not use him enough, but he is that good that you can justify that money

What’s funny is that earlier in the thread, you completely agree with me about paying RBs but because this involved some SEC players, you simply had to comment. It’s laughable that you think the colleges these guys played at have anything to do with my position which I explained several times.

I think James Conner is better than Henry if he could ever stay healthy. I’d rather have Kenyan Drake than Henry.
 
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SteelerSask said:
Something I have been saying for quite a while is where is the tipping point. Teams keep going with smaller, lighter, faster and more athletic linebackers. At what point does someone get a huge bruiser back and a big line and steam role teams again. Make no mistake about it, this is Henry AND his interior three zone blocking the **** out of teams and basically saying you can have one extra, but you will not arm tackle this dude. What shocks me is they can do this with sub 100 yard passing and 50% completion. I can't believe other teams are not saying they will just go man and attack the run till Tannehill proves he can do something.
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it may be starting to shift now. With the Steelers drafting Snell, I had hoped it meant the steelers were going to use more power running. Use more 2 TE and FB formations and use Snell and Conner to wear down small defenses. It never happened. The steelers still use 3 WR much of the time and the OL is not physical enough.

The NFL alway shifted back and forth between run heavy and pass heavy. It would have swung back years ago but the NFL changed the rules so it has stayed with the pass longer than usual. With the success of the Raven and Titans, more teams may draft to run the ball more.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
gurley was deserving of big money but not that big. His predictable injury only proves why giving so much to a RB is a bad idea.

As I mentioned, Zeke, Barkley, and McCaffrey are also factors in the passing game. That is the only type of RB that should be considered in giving big money. Gurley was also a factor in the pass game prior to injury. Henry and Fournette are not factors in the passing game. When I say factor, I don’t mean just catching some checkdowns. I mean being able to run WR routes and forcing the D to cover a RB with more than just a LB. Zeke, Barkley, and McCaffrey are all those guys.

The Cowboys did overpay for Zeke and their OC did not use him enough, but he is that good that you can justify that money

What’s funny is that earlier in the thread, you completely agree with me about paying RBs but because this involved some SEC players, you simply had to comment. It’s laughable that you think the colleges these guys played at have anything to do with my position which I explained several times.

I think James Conner is better than Henry if he could ever stay healthy. I’d rather have Kenyan Drake than Henry.
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So Zeke and Barkely should get mega money but Henry shouldn't because they catch the ball? Then why not pay Bell mega money? He was better than all of them out of the backfield.

Again, I do agree that RBs are not worth breaking the bank over. It's just funny how you seem to be fine with paying Zeke (who was down from last year). But not Henry who is vital to his teams run in the playoffs.
 
What else do Zek, Barkley and McCaffrey have in common this year? Oh that's right they didn't make the playoffs. All that money and not even a playoff birth. Who did make the playoffs? Who lead their team in rushing but didn't catch many balls? Who could it be?

Also Henry averages over a yard more per carry than Zek in the playoffs. Barkley has never been and McCaffrey only has 1 game. Oh also in the playoffs Henry has more catches, rec. yards and YPR than Zek.
 
Cope said:
But from what I've seen, not tougher.
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Absolutely right Cope. Earl's thighs were bigger than a lot of people's torso. He was so tough and hard to bring down......... And his kind of toughness was also that ERA of football tough. Henry is pretty tough but not EARL CAMPBELL tough.




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tapeANaspirin2it said:
I don't think he's a special talent. He's not Zeke or Barkley or McCaffrey who can all be factors in the passing game as well. The Ravens got Mark Ingram off the street. The Saints replaced Ingram with Latavius Murray off the street. Those are examples of teams that are strong on the OL and were able to plug and play RBs. I think the Titans could do the same.

RBs go downhill fast, especially big, physical RBs like Henry. I think they need to spend that money other places. Look at the draft. Look at how RBs have been falling in the draft. It used to be that round 1 was littered with RBs and now that's more Round 2. The true 3 down RBs like Barkley McCaffrey and Zeke still go high but the ball carriers go later.

The Jags were insane for picking Fournette with such a high pick. The Rams are regretting giving Gurley a big contract.

The Chargers allowed Gordon to hold out and didn't pay him. Lev Bell sat out a season and didn'rt break the bank.

Sure, you try to sign Henry. If you can get him for a reasonable contract then great but if they give him Gurley or Zeke money, they are crazy.
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GTFOH with this chyt...

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Cope said:
But from what I've seen, not tougher.
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Watched Earl at CFP halftime. Hope Derrick doesn't take the same punishment.
 
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