Regarding observations that "It's not the coach's fault" ... I respond.

[Steeltime]

Yes, it is the coach's fault that this team, repeatedly, time and again, over and over, yet again, wash-rinse-repeat, comes out flat and completely unprepared for a vastly inferior opponent.

It has happened so many times under Tomlin that it is his signature as a coach. The opponent is on an 8-game losing streak? The opponent has been gashed and outscored by 100 points in the prior 7 games? The opponent is a bad, warm-weather team playing in a snow storm? The opponent has lost 7 of 8 and has an OL that is decimated?

Have no fear, Tomlin is here to lose the @#$&ing game.

Different OC'ers, different DLineman, different LB'ers, different CB's, different OL, different RB?

Same head coach. Lack of preparation, thy name is Tomlin.

Oh, and down 20-3 on the road, 4th quarter, 4th and goal at the 2, any coach who decides that a field is the way to go deserves every bit of criticism he gets.

Every ... last ... negative ... comment.

 

[warriors42]

Can't really add anything to this, but I saw someone posted a stat in another thread that we are 1-8 against teams that are less than .200 winning percent under Tomlin. SMFH

 

[AggieSteel]

 

[Supersteeler]

These are professional football players. Quit treating them like high schoolers that need somebody to scream at them to get them motivated. Man the **** up and get yourself ready to play. Game planning is the coaches responsibility the week leading up the game. Walking out between the white lines on Sunday and performing better than the guy lined up across from you in your responsibility. It's a weak minded team. Does Tomlin and the staff share the blame? Yeah, they do but I put a a lot more onus on players getting embarrassed on Sundays. Play like you have some ******* pride! I didn't see a whole lot of getting outsmarted by trickery or wrinkles in the gameplan by the Jets today. I saw guys getting beat out there, missing tons of tackles and making horrible decisions with the football. My biggest beef with the coaching today was not attacking the weak DB's of the Jets all day long.

 

[Coryea]

Can't really add anything to this, but I saw someone posted a stat in another thread that we are 1-8 against teams that are less than .200 winning percent under Tomlin. SMFH

I need to fix that, it's 1-8 on the road, but still ****, but I think I saw we are 8-12 in our last 20 against teams that are .500 Or worse.

 

[SteelerFan448]

They've lost or played terrible against three of the worst teams in the league this year. Unacceptable for a team that wants to contend for the playoffs.

 

[thesteelcity]

Ben played one of his worst games of his career. When he is on, they can beat just about anyone. He was horrible today. AB was horrible today. The OL was a disaster. The defense was so-so. Suisham missed a 23rd yard FG and can't kick an on-sides kick to save his life. Coaching was bad, but there are many other factors from todays game that needs criticism, as well.

 

[Punxsutawney]

Roethlisberger is the popular scapegoat for Tomlin's defense now. Never mind they've lost games to bad teams where Roethlisberger has played well and they scored points.

He threw for 300 yards 3tds/0ints against the Buccaneers and they lost because they allowed Mike Glennon to go Dan Marino on their ***** in the 4th quarter. There was a game in Oakland two years ago where Roethlisberger played out of his mind, the offense scored 31 points, and they STILL lost.

There's always an excuse.

 

[AggieSteel]

Roethlisberger is the popular scapegoat for Tomlin's defense now. Never mind they've lost games to bad teams where Roethlisberger has played well and they scored points.

He threw for 300 yards 3tds/0ints against the Buccaneers and they lost because they allowed Mike Glennon to go Dan Marino on their ***** in the 4th quarter. There was a game in Oakland two years ago where Roethlisberger played out of his mind, the offense scored 31 points, and they STILL lost.

There's always an excuse.

Yep

Are we forgetting that the Jets punched us in the throat for like 15 consecutive plays and 7 minutes to start the game before Ben even set foot on to the field? The tone was set by the god awful defense in the first three possessions of the game forcing us to play from behind before anyone could barely even catch a breath, even before AB's fumble

 

[Omar10213245]

for a team that wants to contend for the playoffs.

Are we sure that this is still the case? Judging by their preparation and attention to details, seems like this team simply lacks the intestinal fortitude, as a group, to be something special. I absolutely blame that on poor, or lackluster at best, leadership, because we have already seen just how good they can be when they get their act together

 

[Coryea]

Ben completed just under 70% of his passes for 343, the one pick was horrible, the other one was not on him, Wheaton ran the wrong route twice, and on the bad throw by Ben that was picked, Wheaton put his hand up as he was streaking across the field, then he totally quit running, he could've tried to break the int up. I'm ready to see what Bryant can do as a starter. Also why the hell does DHB even see the field on offense, another drop.
I'm not saying Ben played a real good game, but
it wasn't horrible either, not sure why we went back to the horizontal passing game.

 

[Steeltime]

"A fish rots from the head down."

"Obviously."

 

[Punxsutawney]

Yep

Are we forgetting that the Jets punched us in the throat for like 15 consecutive plays and 7 minutes to start the game before Ben even set foot on to the field? The tone was set by the god awful defense in the first three possessions of the game forcing us to play from behind before anyone could barely even catch a breath, even before AB's fumble

Yeah, when your offense is forced to stand on the sideline for over 20 minutes real time before taking the field, as the opponent conducts a 14 play drive, they're susceptible to coming out cold and rusty.

The game plan did not help at all either. At one point, Roethlisberger was averaging 3 yards per COMPLETION, as Haley was exercising a screen fetish in the first half against a team with a strong, active front 7, but terrible secondary.

 

[AggieSteel]

Yeah, when your offense is forced to stand on the sideline for over 20 minutes real time before taking the field, as the opponent conducts a 14 play drive, they're susceptible to coming out cold and rusty.

The game plan did not help at all either. At one point, Roethlisberger was averaging 3 yards per COMPLETION, as Haley was exercising a screen fetish in the first half against a team with a strong, active front 7, but terrible secondary.

Yeah that made me pretty much want to vomit all over myself

 

[steel pirate]

Why can't we do this every week?

 

[south dakota STEEL]

reminds me of the Bruce days...oh, well. I still have to work tomorrow. And will be pissed due to loss, but am sure the players have already forgotten it...

 

[Steelerfreak]

I made a comment about not remembering when I saw 4 completed passes for losses in one half like I saw today.

 

[Steeltime]

reminds me of the Bruce days...

Bruce Arians' team is as tough as nails. They won with a 3rd string QB. They blitz, and blitz, and blitz some more. They punch you in the face.

I blamed Arians for lousy game planning. Now, we blame Haley, or Lebeau, or whoever.

The responsibility for these failures belongs to the goddam boss. And until Tomlin is gone, this will not end. Seriously, as the team has become Tomlin's, and from 2012 to present, what makes any person believe that Tomlin will somehow avoid these repeated embarrassments in the future?

Please, somebody, tell me.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Bruce Arians' team is as tough as nails. They won with a 3rd string QB. They blitz, and blitz, and blitz some more. They punch you in the face.

I blamed Arians for lousy game planning. Now, we blame Haley, or Lebeau, or whoever.

The responsibility for these failures belongs to the goddam boss. And until Tomlin is gone, this will not end. Seriously, as the team has become Tomlin's, and from 2012 to present, what makes any person believe that Tomlin will somehow avoid these repeated embarrassments in the future?

Please, somebody, tell me.

The Cardinals were up by 14 points with about 5 minutes in the game when Patrick Peterson was called for pass interference along the Cardinal side line. Replay clearly showed the receiver was pulling on Peterson's jersey. Even though the game was in hand, the Bruce was in the officials face with it, letting then know what he thought. I can just picture Tomlin smiling in the same situation.

 

[steelcan58]

Bruce Arians' team is as tough as nails. They won with a 3rd string QB. They blitz, and blitz, and blitz some more. They punch you in the face.

I blamed Arians for lousy game planning. Now, we blame Haley, or Lebeau, or whoever.

The responsibility for these failures belongs to the goddam boss. And until Tomlin is gone, this will not end. Seriously, as the team has become Tomlin's, and from 2012 to present, what makes any person believe that Tomlin will somehow avoid these repeated embarrassments in the future?

Please, somebody, tell me.

I would take the Bruce over coach Dumbass Coolshades anyday. And as the saying goes - twice on Sundays. HC sets the tone for work ethic, attitude, mental toughness etc. The only thing Dumbass Coolshades sets the tone for is rhetoric and exuses. **** him. I can't even say his name anymore.

 

[SteelerFan448]

The Cardinals were up by 14 points with about 5 minutes in the game when Patrick Peterson was called for pass interference along the Cardinal side line. Replay clearly showed the receiver was pulling on Peterson's jersey. Even though the game was in hand, the Bruce was in the officials face with it, letting then know what he thought. I can just picture Tomlin smiling in the same situation.

Tomlin has his faults, but he does not hide his emotions when there is a bad call, at least not all of the time.

 

[Idioteque]

Agree 100% but the FG was the way to go there. I'm almost always a proponent of going for a 4th, especially inside the 10, but it was essential there. That makes it a 2-score game. Go for it and fail, and you're down 3 scores with 3 possessions left.

Congrats to Field Goal Mike, whose deep abiding love for chipping away a FG at a time was actually the right decision.

 

[Steeltime]

Agree 100% but the FG was the way to go there. I'm almost always a proponent of going for a 4th, especially inside the 10, but it was essential there.

Disagree.

In that situation, a 1st down is comparatively easy. A TD is a very high probability outcome with the 1st down. The chances of a TD in going for it there is high.

On the other hand, the chances of a TD where the Steelers have the ball later in the game at the Jets' 25 yard line is much, much, much lower, while the chances of a field goal are very high.

Trailing by 17 on the road in the 4th quarter, the challenge is to find the 2 TD's. The field goal cannot be the score that drives the team's thinking. The field goal is the score than can be found with no timeouts, two moderate completions and 35 yards of offense ... like the team did in the 2nd quarter.

In that situation, what are the chances the team can find a TD? Basically zero in my eyes. Get the goddam TD when you have the ball inside the the 10 yard line.

 

[Superman]

that close to the goal, you pound it in. all four downs. the worst possible outcome from trying to run it in, is a turn over on downs and their offense is backed up inside the 5 giving them not a lot of options.
hell, the ******* packers give it to Kuhn in some of those similar situations.

 

[Steeltime]

that close to the goal, you pound it in. all four downs. the worst possible outcome from trying to run it in, is a turn over on downs and their offense is backed up inside the 5 giving them not a lot of options.
hell, the ******* packers give it to Kuhn in some of those similar situations.

Yep.

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