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Steeler Nation Union Members - Who gets your vote in 2020?

Who gets your vote in 2020?

  • Trump

    Votes: 10 50.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Total voters
    20
CharlesDavenport

CharlesDavenport

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Seems like informal polls are more telling, so would really appreciate knowing what your sense of your union is. Please say what union, and what you are hearing.

Assume the choice is Trump or a Democrat.

Not going to argue anything, just looking for data points.

Thanks.
 
Trump
 
Just throwing this out there Chuck but are there really that many union jobs around that are not Gov't ? Back in my tenure in da Burg, there were a lot of unions but since then I have vacated as have a bunch of others...what's Pittsburgh got now, union wise ? Same goes nationwide, I'll assume.

Polling (AFGE) members will get some pretty standard answers...no ?

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Campaign update: Miners warn Democrats on ending coal
The head of the largest U.S. miners union said Democratic presidential candidates participating in a climate change town hall Wednesday need to assure coal miners they won’t suffer any “negative effect” from ending the use of the fossil fuel.

Cecil Roberts, president of the United Mine Workers of America, said coal miners are “tired of being cast as villains” and are deeply skeptical of campaign promises they will win well-paying jobs in other sectors as the mineral is phased out as a power source.
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In 2016 Hillary said, "We Are Going To Put A Lot Of Coal Miners & Coal Companies Out Of Business", and still they did not endorse Trump. They didn't endorse Hillary either, but that was gutless. This time grow a pair and endorse the only candidate looking out for you, and by the way the only candidate not saying they plan to put you out of business.
 
SteelChip said:
Just throwing this out there Chuck but are there really that many union jobs around that are not Gov't ? Back in my tenure in da Burg, there were a lot of unions but since then I have vacated as have a bunch of others...what's Pittsburgh got now, union wise ? Same goes nationwide, I'll assume.
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Private sector union membership is 7%. Government employee union membership is over 50%. Unions left the private sector decades ago in favor of the low-hanging fruit of government workers.
 
Most of us enjoy the benefits we have at work now because employers want to keep unions out.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Private sector union membership is 7%. Government employee union membership is over 50%. Unions left the private sector decades ago in favor of the low-hanging fruit of government workers.
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I belonged to the union when I was a government employee but only because they offered dental insurance. Just saying. The way I figured it if you didn't do anything wrong you don't need the representation.
 
If I have to choose between Trump and Socialism, that's a pretty easy choice.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Pretty sure Trog is, given the drivel he regurgitates.
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Most of the union people I know, and they are few(excluding teachers} are constantly complaining that the union hall never calls.
 
hamster said:
Most of the union people I know, and they are few(excluding teachers} are constantly complaining that the union hall never calls.
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Only ever four years.
 
As much as I dislike Trump there is no Democrat with a shot at winning that I would consider. I've got two kids in college and third will be there in two years, I can't afford to have someone come in and wreck the economy next year.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Seems like informal polls are more telling, so would really appreciate knowing what your sense of your union is. Please say what union, and what you are hearing.

Assume the choice is Trump or a Democrat.

Not going to argue anything, just looking for data points.

Thanks.
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Trump!

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My experience with unions has led to my opinion that they are worthless, unnecessary and detrimental to profitability. Being in the steel industry, I have dealt with both the Steelworkers and the UAW. The dinosaur steel mills like U.S. Steel, AK Steel, ArcelorMittal etc... are all union. Just one quick example of how inefficient they are: I was running a chemical trial at Weirton Steel back in the day. I was setting up a metering pump when a guy comes over all red-assed and yells "You can't do that! You need Maintenance to work on that!" I had to wait over an hour for a guy to come over and tighten a hose clamp with a screwdriver. It still goes on today. On my last trip to USS a couple weeks ago, an old timer union guy, who I actually like, told me that he found a way to automate one of their processes that would save downtime and labor on their outage shift. He literally said "But **** it. I'm not helping them. Every time we save this company money, the CEO gets a bonus." Conversely, the more modern steel mills like Nucor and Steel Dynamics are non-union. They pay their workers well and give them bonuses based on productivity. They also get profit sharing. They are much more productive and profitable. Compare the stocks...they don't lie.
 
Been a member of the Steelworkers Union since 04 and near as I can tell they're only function is to take 15 - 20 bucks a week out of my pay and then throw you under the bus when you actually need them. However I have no complaints about my wages, benefits, or pension. All of which are very competitive.
As far as politics go,our Union has always been on the Dems dicks. Pushed hard for Hillary in 16 but over the last two to three years they've become neutral for the most part. When asked why they are not currently supporting the Dems the answer is always the same... the economy.

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stevielee said:
Been a member of the Steelworkers Union since 04 and near as I can tell they're only function is to take 15 - 20 bucks a week out of my pay and then throw you under the bus when you actually need them. However I have no complaints about my wages, benefits, or pension. All of which are very competitive.
As far as politics go,our Union has always been on the Dems dicks. Pushed hard for Hillary in 16 but over the last two to three years they've become neutral for the most part. When asked why they are not currently supporting the Dems the answer is always the same... the economy.

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If the Steelworkers endorse a Dim next year it's like cutting their own throat.
 
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