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Where there is smoke, the Steelers should make fire???

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Stephon Diggs brother posted an Instagram pic of the WR in a Redskins jersey.

https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/teams/min/minnesota-vikings

The link clearly states the post is cryptic and there is very likely NO chance the Vikings are looking to move on from Diggs... but What If???

This is a move the Steelers should absolutely pursue if there is any chance there is fire where there is smoke!!!

The Vikings are apparently up against the cap and Diggs is in the last year of his contract, making the opportunity to obtain value appealing regarding a trade. With Diggs counting about 9 mil in base salary, against the cap, the Steelers should easily be able to fit him this year, especially if Ben is extended (and he should want to be for purpose of this move, alone!). Further, with bABy off the books going forward, 2020 and beyond, the Steelers should be able to pull a move from the Raiders/Rosenhous book of negotiating and work a long term deal with Diggs, before the trade is signed off on.

Compensation: OBJ was had for pick #17 and #95, along with S Peppers. Could the Steelers get Diggs for their 2nd round pick (#52) and their 3rd (#83), with one of the 6th round picks thrown in? That would give them a known commodity at WR, a position they are certain to draft otherwise, likely with a high pick, rather than a speculative player. They would still have 7 picks, including their 1st and the high 3rd obtained from Oakland, to fill the remaining needs, no longer including WR. The Vikings would get immediate value for a player they will have difficulty retaining and will more easily have cap space for the speculative player they'd possibly draft to replace Diggs with their draft capital.

The positive biproduct... the fireworks that result when JuJu and Diggs finish ahead of bABy, statistically!!!
 
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The better fireworks would be if JuJu and Montcrief/Washington finish better statistically in the only stat that matters. On no planet should we trade that much draft equity for Diggs, in a contract year, when we just shipped out our 2nd best WR for a 3rd and 5th.


Diggs cant hold our former 2nd best WR or OBJ's jock. Maybe a 3rd for him if he were to renegotiate a salary friendly deal, his ceiling is right about where Montcrief's is who we just picked up for nothing.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
The better fireworMaybe a 3rd for him if he were to renegotiate a salary friendly deal, his ceiling is right about where Montcrief's is who we just picked up for nothing.
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I did specify to sign him long term before making trade.

I don't see how Montcrief is anywhere near Diggs???

Brown '19 stats: 104rec, 1291yards, 15 tds (with Ben, as everyone is rightfully pointing out has something to do with Brown's production)

Diggs '19 stats: 102rec, 1021yards, 9 tds (with Cousins?)

As far as trad compensation, I didn't intend Steelers should start negotiations there, but as a worst case scenario? That trade falls right in between the value for OBJ and Brown, with some other factors not calculated in. A lot of argument OBJ was worthy of a 1st/3rd is age 25 compared to Brown 31... Diggs is 25. OBJ/Brown, MUCH drama... Diggs apparently none in his 4 years?

Montcrief is an absolute flyer and the Steelers WILL be drafting a WR, possibly high, come April. A fair trade for a WR that has shown incredible ability in his first for years holds a lot of value over an speculative player.
 
Not comparing Montcriefs output to Diggs...

Just saying I dont think acquiring another veteran Top Ten receiver to replace AB is in their plans, and not just due to the money it would require...
 
steel dino said:
Not comparing Montcriefs output to Diggs...

Just saying I dont think acquiring another veteran Top Ten receiver to replace AB is in their plans, and not just due to the money it would require...
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I just see Moncrief as a flyer and of course I hope they struck gold with a player that, with exception of one season with Luck, has had awful QB play to grow with. If Diggs is a top 10, what's the chance we draft a WR that becomes top 10, even if they use the #20 pick to obtain one? There are far more busts than homeruns and we could end up with another Santonio/Coates/Bryant or worse.... SWEED??? Diggs is a known and paired with JuJu, would be hardly a drop off from a 31 year old head case that destroys locker rooms. If Moncrief hits, we are right back in business, like what we thought we were going to have with Brown, JuJu and Bryant/Coates. No waiting for Washington to hopefully continue developing and a high pick to hopefully develop.

Compensation??? Maybe I made it a bit too rich, but that's what the experts job is... inquiring about a guy like Diggs can't hurt at all, and that's really what I'm getting at.
 
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Your argument is good but a little late. The Steelers are NOT going to go after another receiver in trade, leastways with the possibility of Huston in the works. When it is announced that Huston has signed, that will be the nd of FA for the Steelers.





Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
Your argument is good but a little late. The Steelers are NOT going to go after another receiver in trade, leastways with the possibility of Huston in the works. When it is announced that Huston has signed, that will be the nd of FA for the Steelers.



Salute the nation
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If we sign Houston, then I’ll be perfectly happy with a WR in the draft.

For anyone that thinks the Steelers are content with JuJu, Washington, Moncrief, Switzer and Rogers... you’re not considering we had all of them, less Moncrief, as well as Brown, DHB and Hunter last season. And when we had all of those guys, less Washington/Moncrief, the Steelers used a 3rd in ‘18 draft on a WR. As it stands, the Steelers will absolutely be drafting WR, and possibly very high. So if I made compensation too high, maybe a 2nd and 4th or 5th for Diggs? I’d rather have a 25 year old, highly developed Diggs, that they can easily fit under cap with Browns vacated cash, than a speculative WR from a premium pick.
 
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Bluesteel said:
If we sign Houston, then I’ll be perfectly happy with a WR in the draft.

For anyone that thinks the Steelers are content with JuJu, Washington, Moncrief, Switzer and Rogers... you’re not considering we had all of them, less Moncrief, as well as Brown, DHB and Hunter. And when we had all of those guys, less Washington/Moncrief, the Steelers used a 3rd in ‘18 draft on a WR. As it stands, the Steelers will absolutely be drafting WR, and possibly very high. So if I made compensation too high, maybe a 2nd and 4th or 5th for Diggs? I’d rather have a 25 year old, highly developed Diggs, that they can easily fit under cap with Browns vacated cash, than a speculative WR from a premium pick.
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Why are you adding content to my what appears to be a quote from me. I didn’ print any of this in my post as what you have me quoted as.................. Just for future reference, if you are going to add to a post in a quote form, don’ add it in such a way it looks like it’s that persons quote.......... maybe you are a journalist and can get away with that but here, I believe we speak what wwe say and not morph it into your agenda.




Salute the nation
 
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BLITZ said:
The raiders are loaded at wr. We could trade our 1st and. 2nd for thier best one
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Brown, Williams (who’s done little to nothing, with very rare flashes) and JJ Nelson are “loaded”???? Each one was on 3 different teams last season... certainly promotes continuity and cohesiveness.
 
Drink IRON City said:
Why are you adding content to my what appears to be a quote from me. I didn’ print any of the bottom half of what you have me quoted as.................. Just for future reference, if you are going to add to a post in a quote form, don’ add it in such a way it looks like it’s that persons quote.......... maybe you are a journalist and can get away with that but here, I believe we speak what wwe say and not morph it into your agenda.




Salute the nation
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Was an accident, because I am posting from my annoying phone.... I immediately realized and edited it, so as to not alter your quote.... unintentionally posted between your point and “Salute the nation” quote. My apologies... wasn’t trying to put words in your mouth.

Good grief what a touchy place, though! I have no agenda or power to affect my agenda! This isn’t politics.... I simply like the discussion and wanted to make a post to ponder the possibilities, with purpose to improve the team I love, in spite of the recent BS. Any thoughts I’d ever have would be with the desire, that team explores every option to field best possible team each season.

Not trying to piss anyone off.
 
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Trade scenarios is highly unlikely. But I would shoot a low third for him if he was on the block.

I would still like to see more in free agency, to me they did the bare minimum. Their own plus help with the obvious holes.I would like to see one more player brought in. A pass rusher, S or another WR... Or hell even a TE>
 
Bluesteel said:
Brown, Williams (who’s done little to nothing, with very rare flashes) and JJ Nelson are “loaded”???? Each one was on 3 different teams last season... certainly promotes continuity and cohesiveness.
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90% of that was sarcasm. I know we would also through in a player
 
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/stefon-diggs-16872/

Diggs just signed a long term deal and is in the second year of it. It would cost them over 3 million in salary cap and would be almost as bad as the Steelers losing 21 million in signing bonus by trading AB. Diggs also is too much like AB in the fact he doesn’t want to play second fiddle to Theilen. So is he going to be happy playing second fiddle to JuJu?


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The Steelers can get AB 2.0 in the fourth or fifth round if they draft Deebo Samuel out of South Carolina. Kick returner and all. There is no way the Steelers are going after another WR in free agency.
 
If there is one position the Steelers don't need to trade for it's WR, because it's one of the few positions Tomlin seems to have an eye for. Doesn't make sense to give up higher draft capital for a position that we seem to regularly fill (exceptions: Wheaton, Coates)
 
Bluesteel said:
Was an accident, because I am posting from my annoying phone.... I immediately realized and edited it, so as to not alter your quote.... unintentionally posted between your point and “Salute the nation” quote. My apologies... wasn’t trying to put words in your mouth.

Good grief what a touchy place, though! I have no agenda or power to affect my agenda! This isn’t politics.... I simply like the discussion and wanted to make a post to ponder the possibilities, with purpose to improve the team I love, in spite of the recent BS. Any thoughts I’d ever have would be with the desire, that team explores every option to field best possible team each season.

Not trying to piss anyone off.
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Imagine Pluto being misquoted in "Animal House" ......................................"Did we give up when the Germans attacked pearl harbor".............................. Good greif and don't ever MAKE THAT ******* MISTAKE AGAIN>>>>>........... (sarcasm)






Salute the nation
 
FordFairLane said:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/stefon-diggs-16872/

Diggs just signed a long term deal and is in the second year of it. It would cost them over 3 million in salary cap and would be almost as bad as the Steelers losing 21 million in signing bonus by trading AB. Diggs also is too much like AB in the fact he doesn’t want to play second fiddle to Theilen. So is he going to be happy playing second fiddle to JuJu?


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Haven’t seen anywhere, where Diggs has made a beef over team/WR dynamics?
 
ianv2012 said:
If there is one position the Steelers don't need to trade for it's WR, because it's one of the few positions Tomlin seems to have an eye for. Doesn't make sense to give up higher draft capital for a position that we seem to regularly fill (exceptions: Wheaton, Coates)
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All the Tomlin hate on here, yet he gets so much credit for being a WR draft guru???

Coates/Bryant/Wheaton/SWEED??? JuJu was no leap of faith! To a lesser degree, neither were Wallace or Sanders and they were lost early in their respective careers. Brown could be argued the only one Tomlin hit on that was a surprise.

Considering with how many WR he drafted, actually doesn’t look like he’s hit as much as he’s missed?
 
Bluesteel said:
All the Tomlin hate on here, yet he gets so much credit for being a WR draft guru???

Coates/Bryant/Wheaton/SWEED??? JuJu was no leap of faith! To a lesser degree, neither were Wallace or Sanders and they were lost early in their respective careers. Brown could be argued the only one Tomlin hit on that was a surprise.

Considering with how many WR he drafted, actually doesn’t look like he’s hit as much as he’s missed?
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Who said anything about leap of faith, I'm talking about finding WRs in the draft who are productive with Ben. Bryant definitely was before he decided Mary Jane was more important, and Sweed could've been but he got into his own head and lost all confidence. Every WR mentioned also was drafted between 2-6, and yet only 3 weren't very productive, unless you count Sanders who was oft injured with us. Regardless, WR is one position they hit on more than they miss, no "leap of faith" involved
 
Badcat said:
The Steelers can get AB 2.0 in the fourth or fifth round if they draft Deebo Samuel out of South Carolina. Kick returner and all. There is no way the Steelers are going after another WR in free agency.
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Deebo won't last until our 3.20, luckily he will be there at our 3rd from the raiders

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