Every NFL Owner Lost Today

[maowv]

The League just allowed a player to:

1) Tear up his contract with multiple years remaining;
2) Force a trade;
3) Actively interfere with the team with whom he is under contract from having opportunities to make a fair market value trade; and
4) Actively veto possible trades even though he has no right under the CBA to do so.


The League better deal with this in the next CBA or we will see more players do this.

I hate AB but he won. He beat the Steelers. He beat the NFL. He got everything he wanted and he was able to hurt the team he left.

The Steelers were very weak in how they handled this. Not impressed with Kevin Colbert and certainly not impressed with Art II. He does not carry the cost that his father and his grandfather held.

 

[BLITZ]

not the Raiders. I would say they won.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Any team willing to redo his contract is the reason the NFL lost.

 

[greenleader]

I lose every day though.

 

[BLITZ]

Any team willing to redo his contract is the reason the NFL lost.

Raiders just got a surefire hall of fame wider receiver in his prime for peanuts. that is a win no matter how you spin it

 

[stillwright]

The League just allowed a player to:

1) Tear up his contract with multiple years remaining;
2) Force a trade;
3) Actively interfere with the team with whom he is under contract from having opportunities to make a fair market value trade; and
4) Actively veto possible trades even though he has no right under the CBA to do so.


The League better deal with this in the next CBA or we will see more players do this.

I hate AB but he won. He beat the Steelers. He beat the NFL. He got everything he wanted and he was able to hurt the team he left.

The Steelers were very weak in how they handled this. Not impressed with Kevin Colbert and certainly not impressed with Art II. He does not carry the cost that his father and his grandfather held.

I know I won't lose any sleep for the owners. They are the same ******* that let Goodell sweep Spygate under the rug. **** AB and **** them.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Raiders just got a surefire hall of fame wider receiver in his prime for peanuts. that is a win no matter how you spin it

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.

 

[BLITZ]

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.

I get what you are saying but the raiders owner is much happier and in a better position today than yesterday

 

[SteelerFan448]

I get what you are saying but the raiders owner is much happier and in a better position today than yesterday

The context was that a player behaves like a petulant child and gets a record contract is not good for teams. Any team willing to reward bad behavior with a huge contract sets a bad standard for the league. Looking separately from that, it was a good deal for the Raiders, but it's hard to believe they didn't pay Mack. I'd take Mack over Brown 10 out of 10 times.

 

[BLITZ]

Agreed. But brown plus the pics they got for mack sets them uo extremely well. Not counting the 1st the got for cooper.

 

[Vincent]

So the Raiders trade Cooper to the cowfelons for a One. Cooper's good but he ain't AB. Then we trade arguably the best receiver in the league, a Unicorn, if you will, to the Raiders for a 3 and a 5. Do I have that right? Did Colbert do this because he feels bad about the Bryant trade?

Yinz speak of returning to the 80s. This is returning to the 40s. Nah, the 30s.

This trade approaches the cowfelon Viking trade for Walker, if not in volume, in sheer stupidity.

Oh, and we get no value this year for Bell. Do the Steelers not understand value?

It's a bull@#$% league anyway.

 

[BLITZ]

So the Raiders trade Cooper to the cowfelons for a One. Cooper's good but he ain't AB. Then we trade arguably the best receiver in the league, a Unicorn, if you will, to the Raiders for a 3 and a 5. Do I have that right? Did Colbert do this because he feels bad about the Bryant trade?

Yinz speak of returning to the 80s. This is returning to the 40s. Nah, the 30s.

This trade approaches the cowfelon Viking trade for Walker, if not in volume, in sheer stupidity.

Oh, and we get no value this year for Bell. Do the Steelers not understand value?

It's a bull@#$% league anyway.

I am a dude sitting at my desk still in pajamas drinking my 5th cup of coffee so I don't really know that answer, but my guess is they just got tired of the circus and settled for what they could get. bad move for us but great for the Raiders

 

[Supersteeler]

So the Raiders trade Cooper to the cowfelons for a One. Cooper's good but he ain't AB. Then we trade arguably the best receiver in the league, a Unicorn, if you will, to the Raiders for a 3 and a 5. Do I have that right? Did Colbert do this because he feels bad about the Bryant trade?

Yinz speak of returning to the 80s. This is returning to the 40s. Nah, the 30s.

This trade approaches the cowfelon Viking trade for Walker, if not in volume, in sheer stupidity.

Oh, and we get no value this year for Bell. Do the Steelers not understand value?

It's a bull@#$% league anyway.

Their team has been in decline for the past two seasons because of two ******* ******* primadonnas, who happened to be their two best players. Those players are now gone. Yeah they got ****** out of compensation for both of them, but if multiple teams didn't think they were both personally untouchable, we would have gotten way more. Both cases are as good object lesson that you can be the best player on Earth and if you don;t give a **** about your team, you're worthless to them and worthless to many other teams who pay attention. Only getting a 3rd and a 5th for him is a complete joke but it shows how many other teams ran for the hills because of what a selfish prick AB is. They know he'll do the exact same **** to them the first chance he gets.

 

[cpollock]

The context was that a player behaves like a petulant child and gets a record contract is not good for teams. Any team willing to reward bad behavior with a huge contract sets a bad standard for the league. Looking separately from that, it was a good deal for the Raiders, but it's hard to believe they didn't pay Mack. I'd take Mack over Brown 10 out of 10 times.

We also see what happened with Bryant .... I see in the future AB throwing fits with Carr too ..

 

[Troglodyte]

not the Raiders. I would say they won.

We’ll see. The Raiders might turn out to be the biggest losers of all. It’s not like AB agreed to play for the league minimum. They are obviously hoping history doesn’t repeat itself and we all know it often does.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

not the Raiders. I would say they won.

Don't bet on it. He will still be a problem child and I don't think he plays longer than two more years.

 

[SteelerSask2]

I guess the part that continues to befuddle me is that his behavior made him near worthless in terms of his trade value. HOWEVER, his behaviour had no impact on him getting a huge raise in top of what is two years removed from a mega contract. If someone can explain that to me, I would really love to hear it.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I guess the part that continues to befuddle me is that his behavior made him near worthless in terms of his trade value. HOWEVER, his behaviour had no impact on him getting a huge raise in top of what is two years removed from a mega contract. If someone can explain that to me, I would really love to hear it.

Possibly he and his agent staged all the bullshit so no one else would sign him but Oakland where he wanted to go (since they're moving to Vegas), and they were told it's bullshit, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

 

[maowv]

Vegas and AB

I can't bring myself to wish injury upon any player no matter how strongly I despise them, AB included.

But I can hope that being in Vegas has an influence on the rest of his career. Like being busted in a hotel room with a bag of coke and a tranny hooker.

 

[stillwright]

I guess the part that continues to befuddle me is that his behavior made him near worthless in terms of his trade value. HOWEVER, his behaviour had no impact on him getting a huge raise in top of what is two years removed from a mega contract. If someone can explain that to me, I would really love to hear it.

I agree. Obviously, the Raiders were not balking at AB wanting a new deal which caused many teams to back out of talks. As many said on here already why the self imposed deadline? We knew the Raiders wanted him. Oh well. Glad it is all over.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Possibly he and his agent staged all the bullshit so no one else would sign him but Oakland where he wanted to go (since they're moving to Vegas), and they were told it's bullshit, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

You nailed it. As others have said, why not pay Brown his March 2.5 million and wait this out, call the bluff, nope this leadership group is too weak for that....

The steelers have royally screwed themselves. My only comfort is the likelyhood Brown is sentenced to no playoffs for the remainder of his career as a Raider

 

[Vincent]

Their team has been in decline for the past two seasons because of two ******* ******* primadonnas, who happened to be their two best players. Those players are now gone. Yeah they got ****** out of compensation for both of them, but if multiple teams didn't think they were both personally untouchable, we would have gotten way more. Both cases are as good object lesson that you can be the best player on Earth and if you don;t give a **** about your team, you're worthless to them and worthless to many other teams who pay attention. Only getting a 3rd and a 5th for him is a complete joke but it shows how many other teams ran for the hills because of what a selfish prick AB is. They know he'll do the exact same **** to them the first chance he gets.

The Steelers have been in decline since the beginning of the 2007 season. They won a Lombardi in 08 with Cowher's roster. They haven't done @#$% since except embarrass themselves.

What value does Tomlin bring to the table? Word was back then that he was brought in because he would have the cred to deal with the likes of an AB or a Bell, y'know, a '757 guy'. The HC's job is to manage and develop talent so that it produces on the field. This team has wasted more talent than any I can remember during his tenure, and it culminates with the departure of 2 sure HoFers because he can't do what he was brought here to do. And if he's incapable of doing that, we don't need him to stand on the sideline in bewilderment. Waste of space. Bell and AB were his responsibility and he failed spectacularly. As a fan, I'd prefer that the team was spectacular.

The AB and Bell thing are no different that what he did to Silverback, arguably another HoFer - squander the talent. Your job Mikey is to be in their heads. Your job Mikey is to make them produce on the field. Your job Mikey is to return on the investment the Pittsburgh Steelers made in the talent in terms of draft capitol and contract value. With the talent on this roster, there is NO excuse why this team does not have several more Lombardis. None. If you can't win with the talent on this team over the last 12 seasons, you can't win at all, and you don't belong anywhere near a sideline - in any capacity. We would have been better served during that 12 years with Johnny Blood McNally, and his only value to the team was amusement.

The market will tell you the value of anything. Tomlin's job is to cultivate and manage value. Getting a 3rd and a 5th for a sure HoFer in his prime illustrates Tomlin's value. 0

 

[Cool Hand Jimmy]

Raiders just got a surefire hall of fame wider receiver in his prime for peanuts. that is a win no matter how you spin it

Not only that, but they didn't really overpay either. This deal will not wreck their cap in the future. Good luck a year from now when he's not putting up league leading #'s and when any WR makes more than him. He will be OK for a while, but once he's not getting his #'s he will freak out eventually.

 

[Troglodyte]

The Rooney’s have always been league-first owners. AB refusing to play, be it for the Steelers or Bills, was not in the best interest of the league. Art is still going to make a lot of money next year even if the Steelers go backwards and he just saved himself $2.5 million.

Once again I’m left wondering why people spend big bucks to attend Steelers games.

 

[Vincent]

Possibly he and his agent staged all the bullshit so no one else would sign him but Oakland where he wanted to go (since they're moving to Vegas), and they were told it's bullshit, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

That presents a very interesting possibility. Value in the NFL can be demonstrated in tangible terms. What you just said is that AB and the Rosenhauses diminished AB's value to some end.

Oakland sent Cooper to the @#$%s last year for a 1. That establishes than AB has a greater value. Except that AB's actions diminished that value.

Nix the trade and sue AB. Sue him for everything he's got. Suspend him while you're destroying him so as to not waste a roster spot. Then let him work his way back onto the roster. Sort of like saying 'All your bases are belong to us'. Or calling him Ms Little Chest.

Art is still going to make a lot of money next year even if the Steelers go backwards and he just saved himself $2.5 million.

I don't care what Arty makes next year. Or the year after that or...

I care about winning.