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Art II has spoken according to Jerry Dulac

SteveA said:
Trade him the division, seriously?

No freaking way.....
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If they offer two first round picks, freaking A.

Distraction players making 20 million or more a season goodbye.

We need to run the ball a bit more anyway.


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Coach said:
If they offer two first round picks, freaking A.

Distraction players making 20 million or more a season goodbye.

We need to run the ball a bit more anyway.


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I don't know Coach! I really wouldn't want to face AB with an up and coming star in Mayfield to pitch him the ball twice a year. I just don't think regardless of the return, that Art II trades him within the division, especially to Cleveland thats going to be a really good team. Now if you said to the Raiders for two of those first round picks, I'm on board with that one. We don't face them every year and when we do, thank God its only once that given year. And we lose to them even without a AB or an Amari Cooper. We invent ways to lose the the Raiders.
 
steelhurt said:
Slash is kidding Steve. Plus as Lexx says the Gents drafted Barkley with their first. All in fun SteveA, relax!
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HAAHAHA...I missed that one with Barkley. It's a KNOWN FACT at my job I'm wound a little tight.....Some things never change
 
So just heard on 93.7 The Fan that AB has stopped following the Steelers on F B, Instagram and Twitter. Who knows what the hell that means if it means anything at all but could be he's closed the door and wants to be gone. I think the next couple weeks will speak volumes where this is going if AB continues to ignore the owner and coach telling me that he doesn't feel it necessary to have dialogue and his mind is made up. If thats the case, imo I'm hoping for the Raiders two mid round first picks, but thats me. The Pat Peterson swap imo just isn't enough, I'd want more from the Cards, say like Josh Rosen since the Cards may be picking the QB from Ohio State.That seems like a lot but consider that Pat Peterson is already 29 and had a so so year and although he's an instant upgrade to our defensive backfield, to trade a generational talent like AB, I want a potential replacement for Ben. Now thats assuming the Cards and Kliff Kingsbury want the Ohio State QB with their first. I'm making that trade yesterday.
 
Tibs said:
Can any of you imagine a scenario where your supervisor or boss is calling you over a two-week period and you refuse to pick up or return a call? And think you still have a job?
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This is what makes me suspect that AB could be with the Steelers next year. Rooney and Tomlin are calling him, AB isn’t calling them, and Rooney won’t completely rule out AB returning. Why even try calling him if your interest is in getting rid of him?

It’s like a guy saying “I am fairly certain I’m going to break-up with the girl who walked out on me and won’t return my repeated phone calls.”
 
Troglodyte said:
This is what makes me suspect that AB could be with the Steelers next year. Rooney and Tomlin are calling him, AB isn’t calling them, and Rooney won’t completely rule out AB returning. Why even try calling him if your interest is in getting rid of him?

It’s like a guy saying “I am fairly certain I’m going to break-up with the girl who walked out on me and won’t return my repeated phone calls.”
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I may be mistaking, but AB didn't return their calls that week/weekend of the Bengals game. That's what I thought he was referring to. Whether they have tried since then, I'm not sure, but Art II said he wouldn't rule anything out, esp trading or keeping him. There are two months until a decision is to be made. The ball is in Ab's court. He he wants to stay, it's up to him to pick up the phone.
 
Troglodyte said:
This is what makes me suspect that AB could be with the Steelers next year. Rooney and Tomlin are calling him, AB isn’t calling them, and Rooney won’t completely rule out AB returning. Why even try calling him if your interest is in getting rid of him?

It’s like a guy saying “I am fairly certain I’m going to break-up with the girl who walked out on me and won’t return my repeated phone calls.”
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I don't think he's going to come out and say he will not be back next year, in the event that no one offers anything significant for him.
 
Cope said:
That is the protection JMM. The Steelers do not have to move AB, and he can sit for a year in his prime. He has to give something back to get out of a contract 3 years early, and that is to return his prorated portion of his signing bonus for the next 3 years. It makes the Steelers whole, and it gives AB a clean break. Honestly, I don't see the Steelers moving Brown unless that happens. Otherwise, it is a poor cap move.
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Cope hit on something right here. Art2 has all the cards and Rosenhaus knows it. His client is locked in a contract. His client has committed insubordination with the club he signed the contract with. Whether AB is traded or not, there is the 21 cap hit. So unless there is a negotiated return of the bonuses, AB has to a) deal with the fact that he will be expected to perform for the club, or sit, neither which he would want. Or b), if a trade is to be consummated, return the bonuses via negotiation. CBA be damned. This could set a precedent on the next agreement.


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Sucks seeing the CBS sports article today talking about us only possibly getting a 2nd rounder for AB. I'm not sure what I'd do if that is the best we can get for the best WR in the NFL. That seems ridiculous even if he is 30 and a diva.
 
TDX27 said:
Sucks seeing the CBS sports article today talking about us only possibly getting a 2nd rounder for AB. I'm not sure what I'd do if that is the best we can get for the best WR in the NFL. That seems ridiculous even if he is 30 and a diva.
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Yeah, the Steelers can laugh at anyone who offers only a second. His market would be HUGE.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Teams are telling me the potential trade market for Antonio Brown is huge. Teams interested in Brown also tell me (and I know this will shock you) they believe once Brown got into their program they’d be able to control him.</p>— mike freeman (@mikefreemanNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikefreemanNFL/status/1083781796301623296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I was shocked to read that CBS Sports article. They talked about 2nd rounders or possibly the CB from the Cardinals in a direct trade.
 
thesteelcity said:
I may be mistaking, but AB didn't return their calls that week/weekend of the Bengals game. That's what I thought he was referring to. Whether they have tried since then, I'm not sure, but Art II said he wouldn't rule anything out, esp trading or keeping him. There are two months until a decision is to be made. The ball is in Ab's court. He he wants to stay, it's up to him to pick up the phone.
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I don't see much indication he wants to stay. There were signs throughout the season and definitely that last week.

This would have been really interesting if the Brahns had picked up a few more yards and kicked a field goal rather than Browning out.
 
Ike Kelly said:
Cope hit on something right here. Art2 has all the cards and Rosenhaus knows it. His client is locked in a contract. His client has committed insubordination with the club he signed the contract with. Whether AB is traded or not, there is the 21 cap hit. So unless there is a negotiated return of the bonuses, AB has to a) deal with the fact that he will be expected to perform for the club, or sit, neither which he would want. Or b), if a trade is to be consummated, return the bonuses via negotiation. CBA be damned. This could set a precedent on the next agreement.


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If A, I wouldn't trust him not to tank in a critical situation,,stats guy or not. I'd let him rot.

 
Ike Kelly said:
Cope hit on something right here. Art2 has all the cards and Rosenhaus knows it. His client is locked in a contract. His client has committed insubordination with the club he signed the contract with. Whether AB is traded or not, there is the 21 cap hit. So unless there is a negotiated return of the bonuses, AB has to a) deal with the fact that he will be expected to perform for the club, or sit, neither which he would want. Or b), if a trade is to be consummated, return the bonuses via negotiation. CBA be damned. This could set a precedent on the next agreement.


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I've been thinking about it more and more. I'd even be willing to pay him his $2.5M roster bonus for the return of his $21M, if it allows the Steelers time to work out the trade of the decade.

And a player for player trade, shouldn't happen with Brown. There might be a handful of players I'd take straight up for him. Darnold, Ramsey, Barkley. Has to be the best at his position and young. Peterson isn't even in this category, and would be our #2 CB if Haden returns. I'd take Peterson and their first. I'd consider their second, only because it's the first pick of the second round, right?
 
Cope said:
I've been thinking about it more and more. I'd even be willing to pay him his $2.5M roster bonus for the return of his $21M, if it allows the Steelers time to work out the trade of the decade.

And a player for player trade, shouldn't happen with Brown. There might be a handful of players I'd take straight up for him. Darnold, Ramsey, Barkley. Has to be the best at his position and young. Peterson isn't even in this category, and would be our #2 CB if Haden returns. I'd take Peterson and their first. I'd consider their second, only because it's the first pick of the second round, right?
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Exactly. As I said all along value or I wouldn't send him anywhere.

Also what if he returns half the 21mil? Meeting the club half way?
 
Now I'm on record numerous times saying I can't stand Mark Madden most of the time but boy........did he hit on something in the Trib article he wrote yesterday. The article talks about how Brown needs to be traded if the Steelers ever want their culture to get back to what it once was. The last part of the article, Madden describes how Brown's attitude can be summed up in two scenarios that occurred this season.

After the devastating loss to the Chargers in which Brown had 11 catches for 153 yards, AB was "positively beaming" at the post game press conference and was all smiles as he spoke openly to the media. After we finally beat our most hated nemesis in New England in which Brown had 4 catches for 49 yards, he refused to speak to the media and exited the locker room quickly. That's all you need to know to figure out what type of dude he is.

With Brown and Bell on the team as their two star players is it any ******* wonder this team hasn't gone anywhere for several years? Jesus. He also said Brown has to be removed from this team before he can poison Smith-Schuester's mind, which I agree with.
 
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Supersteeler said:
Now I'm on record numerous times saying I can't stand Mark Madden most of the time but boy........did he hit on something in the Trib article he wrote yesterday. The article talks about how Brown needs to be traded if the Steelers ever want their culture to get back to what it once was. The last part of the article, Madden describes how Brown's attitude can be summed up in two scenarios that occurred this season. After the devastating loss to the Chargers in which Brown had 11 catches for 153 yards, AB was "positively beaming" at the post game press conference and spoke openly to the media. After we beat our most hated nemesis in New England and Brown had 4 catches for 49 yards, he refused to speak to the media and exited the locker room quickly. That's all you need to know to figure out what type of dude he is.

With Brown and Bell on the team as their two star players is it any ******* wonder this team hasn't gone anywhere for several years? Jesus.
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Yep. Read the article. It was spot on. This not something new either. AB has been doing all the time over the years. Big numbers and a loss. All smiles. Small numbers but a win. Silent and disgruntled.
 
I don't watch many interviews or read many articles these days but of the few I don't recall hearing much passion from our more popular players about trying to win championships.

Am I just overlooking those clips or are championships taking a back seat for the big names on our team who might be more interested in big numbers. If that's the case then its very possible a championship craving attitude is not being overly emphasized. Sure would be interesting to see what really happening on the North Side
 
Man, if we could get SFs pick and take a real top LB and the new coach can get Burns head out of his *** (or we find some without headinassitis), that'd be a vast improvement.
 
I'm trying to find it on Twitter, but last night Paul Zeise on the fan said he said some NFL insider on Twitter said the market is going to be very good if the Steelers do trade him.

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Coryea said:
I'm trying to find it on Twitter, but last night Paul Zeise on the fan said he said some NFL insider on Twitter said the market is going to be very good if the Steelers do trade him.

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He's not the only one reporting that.

The Steelers will have no issues getting value for him.
 
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