rats swoop in and pick up Matthew Thomas

[Sevenisheaven]

I thought Harrison’s coming out party was when Peezy got thrown out of a game (Cincinnati?) before it even started (fighting during warmups). Harrison took his place and had a monster game with multiple sacks and tackle for losses.


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I believe he broke out against the Eagles at home when Gildong was injured and he was a menace. Was at the game......seemed like he has 47 sacks.....it's when we played back to back games against undefeated Patriots and Philadelphia....we crushed them both......then lost to the pats in the AFCC (the beginning of their cheating)

 

[slashsteel]

Let's give it a few years. From the looks of it, so far, you are right?

Leornard played at a small school against subpar talent, right?

If I remember right Leonard shined in the Senior bowl. I think they were dead set to focus in on Edmunds because of blood-line and thinking he could help fill the Shazier issues.

 

[stillwright]

I believe he broke out against the Eagles at home when Gildong was injured and he was a menace. Was at the game......seemed like he has 47 sacks.....it's when we played back to back games against undefeated Patriots and Philadelphia....we crushed them both......then lost to the pats in the AFCC (the beginning of their cheating)

Porter and Haggans were the starting OLBers when Ben was a rookie and we beat the Pats and Eagles. Guildon wasn't even on the team. Harrison didn't start until Tomlin took over and the Steelers released Porter because he wasn't part of their long term plans and asked to be released. As said above Harrison had a few spot starts though.

Harrison
2004 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 games 45 total tackles 36 solo 9 assist 1.0 sacks 2 pd -- -- -- 0.0 --

 

[Ike Kelly]

He would have been a great 1st round pick.

Leonard > Edmunds.

Edmunds was rated as a 2nd round pick. We took him in the first. So much for you logic.

Do you even think before you post?


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My logic isn’t under scrutiny here. I just answered your idiotic question. FO had Leonard rated in the 2nd round, just like the 31 other teams did. Obviously they had Edmunds rated higher, hence their decision. Had they drafted Leonard in the 1st you would have exclaimed “that was a reach by Tomlin”. Draft agenda must be pushed.

You talk high and mighty with hindsight next to you, but barely average when you actually think for yourself without it.


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[Ike Kelly]

So what you are saying is we cut a fast player with high upside that the coaches felt might not be in a position to make the play because he wasn't yet acclimated to the playbook and instead kept and played slow players with no upside who grasped by the playbook but we're too slow to ever be in position to make a play? Makes sense especially when are so good at communication on the field!!!

Nope that’s not what I posted. He was on the team until Ola was needed because there was a lack of bodies at OLB (Watt and Chickillo injuries). His cut was due to roster limitations. However, when he was ON the roster he was only getting ST reps, because he wasn’t picking up the defense enough to warrant defensive snaps. Of those ST reps (95 total snaps), he had a combined total of 4 tackles. So he wasn’t lighting up on ST like he was in preseason against 2nd/3rd stringers.


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[Coach]

Several weekly chats from PG, DKSports and Depot all referenced his play was limited to ST because he hadn’t caught on with the playbook. Yeah he had a great preseason....exceptional game against Carolina with players no longer in the NFL. No actual defensive scheming and just being on the field playing ball. A lot of players achieve that.

He wasn’t drafted for a reason. Probably because he was academically ineligible and had multiple suspensions in college. Chris Carter on DKS had a great write up about him back in the summer outlining his potential, but has to limit mental mistakes he made in college.

As for you acumen for ILB coverage....it’s nil. Bostic wasn’t brought in for coverage duties, Burnett was. Bostic was brought in for his run defense and tackling ability. Of which he performed well.


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Sure, cut a good looking rookie like Thomas, but keep bum like Brian Allen who had 1 tackle the entire season? Thomas also impressed in camp practices. He certainly showed ability at an area of need. All he lacked was the chance to prove it during the regular season games. Who says he could not play situational football? All rookies need to learn the defense.


If you pay attention Ike, I was hoping the Steelers would give Fort the coverage duties long before it happened. It took our boneheaded coaches, the guys you back up way too long to figure that out. It is not I who has no acumen for coverage, it is them. The fools used Williams our slowest linebacker to cover write receivers. STUPID.


So please defend the Steelers coaches tardiness in promoting Fort, and their brilliant strategy on putting inside linebackers on receivers. Seriously man, stop giving out blow jobs for free.

 

[Coach]

My logic isn’t under scrutiny here. I just answered your idiotic question. FO had Leonard rated in the 2nd round, just like the 31 other teams did. Obviously they had Edmunds rated higher, hence their decision. Had they drafted Leonard in the 1st you would have exclaimed “that was a reach by Tomlin”. Draft agenda must be pushed.

You talk high and mighty with hindsight next to you, but barely average when you actually think for yourself without it.


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Your logic, now that's rich. Who would you rather have picked in round one, Leonard or Edumnds? Humor me, Mr. Spock. The Steelers failed to trade for ILB in round one and ignored them in rounds 2-7.


The Steelers unwisely gave Williams a contract exention. Terrible move, he's a two down player with outdated skills in the NFL. Bostic, their free agent was pretty much demoted. That was the Steelers " plan " at ILB. Then they cut a rookie with potential.


Hindsight might not be able to teach you. J. Ried would have been a better pick than Edmunds. That was my call for round one, and the guy has pro bowl potential. 3 Interceptions, 10 passes defended, 88 tackles, 1 forced fumble and a touchdown return ( Pick 6 ) as a rookie who only started 12 games.

If you were just a bit smarter you can see my calls more often than not agree with hindsight.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Sure, cut a good looking rookie like Thomas, but keep bum like Brian Allen who had 1 tackle the entire season? Thomas also impressed in camp practices. He certainly showed ability at an area of need. All he lacked was the chance to prove it during the regular season games. Who says he could not play situational football? All rookies need to learn the defense.


If you pay attention Ike, I was hoping the Steelers would give Fort the coverage duties long before it happened. It took our boneheaded coaches, the guys you back up way too long to figure that out. It is not I who has no acumen for coverage, it is them. The fools used Williams our slowest linebacker to cover write receivers. STUPID.


So please defend the Steelers coaches tardiness in promoting Fort, and their brilliant strategy on putting inside linebackers on receivers. Seriously man, stop giving out blow jobs for free.

He wasn’t too good looking in the regular season if he had only four tackles in almost a hundred snaps on ST. And yes he showed ability in camp and pre-season ability in an area of need. But after being on the roster for 10 games, he didn’t show enough and was replaced by another LB in an area of need. Situational football......please, he couldn’t show it during practices. How would you expect a player to show it live?

I pay attention to plenty...but even with a minuscule of thought it easy to see you want to pretend you figured it out first who should be the coverage LB. The plan was to have Burnett or Edmunds play the ‘backer role on coverage downs. Due to Burnett’s injury, that didn’t happen. Fort was the next player available with the range and experience in the defense. Not Thomas, Abbott or Costello.

I’ve already acknowledged the lack of adjustment with the coaching staff in regards to their underneath coverage. Please give us details of other teams never using an ILB to cover underneath routes. With your perceived mastery of knowledge all things football. Show us where the CHI or BALT defenses never used an ILB to cover WR in underneath patterns.

As for your fellatio comment, sounds like you have the voice of experience on it and that’s what you have a mastery of knowledge of. So keep your regular patrons happy, and let the adults talk football. Moron.


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[Litos]

Your logic, now that's rich. Who would you rather have picked in round one, Leonard or Edumnds? Humor me, Mr. Spock. The Steelers failed to trade for ILB in round one and ignored them in rounds 2-7.


The Steelers unwisely gave Williams a contract exention. Terrible move, he's a two down player with outdated skills in the NFL. Bostic, their free agent was pretty much demoted. That was the Steelers " plan " at ILB. Then they cut a rookie with potential.


Hindsight might not be able to teach you. J. Ried would have been a better pick than Edmunds. That was my call for round one, and the guy has pro bowl potential. 3 Interceptions, 10 passes defended, 88 tackles, 1 forced fumble and a touchdown return ( Pick 6 ) as a rookie who only started 12 games.

If you were just a bit smarter you can see my calls more often than not agree with hindsight.

I think Reid was off their board for possible off field issues with the kneeling. He was never an option

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[maowv]

I think Reid was off their board for possible off field issues with the kneeling. He was never an option

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I hope that isn't the case because if so, it's an incredibly short-sighted view of talent. The kneeling issue was never going to be around the majority of J. Reid's career. It didn't even last through the entirety of his rookie season. Hindsight being what it is, there is little doubt that J. Reid came into the league much more prepared and ready to step in and play more so than Edmunds. No question that Reid is the better safety at present. Will that hold for their entire careers? We shall see but right now we passed on the better player and by all draft accounts, reached for a guy we could have taken at least one round later, if not two.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Your logic, now that's rich. Who would you rather have picked in round one, Leonard or Edumnds? Humor me, Mr. Spock. The Steelers failed to trade for ILB in round one and ignored them in rounds 2-7.


The Steelers unwisely gave Williams a contract exention. Terrible move, he's a two down player with outdated skills in the NFL. Bostic, their free agent was pretty much demoted. That was the Steelers " plan " at ILB. Then they cut a rookie with potential.


Hindsight might not be able to teach you. J. Ried would have been a better pick than Edmunds. That was my call for round one, and the guy has pro bowl potential. 3 Interceptions, 10 passes defended, 88 tackles, 1 forced fumble and a touchdown return ( Pick 6 ) as a rookie who only started 12 games.

If you were just a bit smarter you can see my calls more often than not agree with hindsight.

Yeah my logic is rich. Yours on the other hand isn’t worth the time to spend showing your less than 10 IQ.

To humor you, all I need is a box of pencils with erasers, and maybe some YouTube clips of a punter. Moron.

With hindsight, I would have drafted Leonard, as any sane person would have. You on the other hand WITH hindsight have admitted on your own that you would have wasted a 1st rounder on a player who wasn’t selected until the third round. I’ll stop right there. You are embarrassing yourself. ***.


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[ark steel]

I hope that isn't the case because if so, it's an incredibly short-sighted view of talent. The kneeling issue was never going to be around the majority of J. Reid's career. It didn't even last through the entirety of his rookie season. Hindsight being what it is, there is little doubt that J. Reid came into the league much more prepared and ready to step in and play more so than Edmunds. No question that Reid is the better safety at present. Will that hold for their entire careers? We shall see but right now we passed on the better player and by all draft accounts, reached for a guy we could have taken at least one round later, if not two.

In hindsight, we know that the kneeling didn't become an issue during the year. At draft time, we have no idea. If it wasn't this year, will it be, again, next year? Did he smarten up about that after getting into the NFL?

 

[Superman]

Reid, as a football player, would have been a nice pick. Yet it was obvious to anyone paying attention that we were not interested due to the kneeling issue. It's why we didn't even consider bringing his brother in during the off-season. We had enough head cases on the team. Just imagine adding a ROOKIE who knelt during the anthem to all that. The media would have been in a frenzy. BTW, Cooch, Reid is another guy we could have had a round later. Keep in mind, this first round, HOF talent was passed over twice by every team in the league.

Saying Leonard would have been a better pick than Edmunds discounts the system and everything else. Coach likes speed guys, and Edmunds had a faster 40 (4.47 to 4.7). Yet somehow Cooch interprets playing at a small school and piling up stats as being better than a guy who played at a D-1 school and faced better talent. Leonard was listed as a OLB pre-draft while Edmunds was listed as Safety. Would Leonard have fared better than Durpee or Watt, and pushed into the starting spot or would it be easier to see Edmunds play as a Safety/LB hybrid?

 

[milkman dan]

Hey, lets all lose our **** over our 4th string LB that couldn't get on the field, despite being spoon-fed by the coaches, bolting for greener pastures while we also demand the arguably greatest or second-greatest WR to ever play the game be tossed out of the facility on his ***.

 

[Coach]

Reid, as a football player, would have been a nice pick. Yet it was obvious to anyone paying attention that we were not interested due to the kneeling issue. It's why we didn't even consider bringing his brother in during the off-season. We had enough head cases on the team. Just imagine adding a ROOKIE who knelt during the anthem to all that. The media would have been in a frenzy. BTW, Cooch, Reid is another guy we could have had a round later. Keep in mind, this first round, HOF talent was passed over twice by every team in the league.

Saying Leonard would have been a better pick than Edmunds discounts the system and everything else. Coach likes speed guys, and Edmunds had a faster 40 (4.47 to 4.7). Yet somehow Cooch interprets playing at a small school and piling up stats as being better than a guy who played at a D-1 school and faced better talent. Leonard was listed as a OLB pre-draft while Edmunds was listed as Safety. Would Leonard have fared better than Durpee or Watt, and pushed into the starting spot or would it be easier to see Edmunds play as a Safety/LB hybrid?

Did Justin ever take knee? His brother was a jerk, it doesn't mean he is.

Leonard was all over the field in college. I like playmakers and football players not necessary speed guys. For example I was a big fan of T.J Watt, and thought he would be a great pick for us. He's really not a speed guy.

Edmunds to me looked a little stiff and suspect covering receivers. One of the many problems on the defense is the Steelers have all strong safety types in the box types, and no free safety types that can play cover 3, or man, and make plays on the ball. I actually like Bates over Edmunds as well.

 

[Superman]

Did Justin ever take knee? His brother was a jerk, it doesn't mean he is.

Leonard was all over the field in college. I like playmakers and football players not necessary speed guys. For example I was a big fan of T.J Watt, and thought he would be a great pick for us. He's really not a speed guy.

Edmunds to me looked a little stiff and suspect covering receivers. One of the many problems on the defense is the Steelers have all strong safety types in the box types, and no free safety types that can play cover 3, or man, and make plays on the ball. I actually like Bates over Edmunds as well.

he's a younger version of his brother. he'd likely kneel. and he's wrong that "not one football player disagreed with kneeling"
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/video/stanfords-justin-reid-on-anthem-protests/

 

[CoolieMan]

Reid, as a football player, would have been a nice pick. Yet it was obvious to anyone paying attention that we were not interested due to the kneeling issue. It's why we didn't even consider bringing his brother in during the off-season. We had enough head cases on the team. Just imagine adding a ROOKIE who knelt during the anthem to all that. The media would have been in a frenzy. BTW, Cooch, Reid is another guy we could have had a round later. Keep in mind, this first round, HOF talent was passed over twice by every team in the league.

Saying Leonard would have been a better pick than Edmunds discounts the system and everything else. Coach likes speed guys, and Edmunds had a faster 40 (4.47 to 4.7). Yet somehow Cooch interprets playing at a small school and piling up stats as being better than a guy who played at a D-1 school and faced better talent. Leonard was listed as a OLB pre-draft while Edmunds was listed as Safety. Would Leonard have fared better than Durpee or Watt, and pushed into the starting spot or would it be easier to see Edmunds play as a Safety/LB hybrid?

unless he is discussing a certain interior DL from Houston...then it is all about level of competition...stats don't mean ****

 

[maowv]

Did Justin ever take knee? His brother was a jerk, it doesn't mean he is.

Leonard was all over the field in college. I like playmakers and football players not necessary speed guys. For example I was a big fan of T.J Watt, and thought he would be a great pick for us. He's really not a speed guy.

Edmunds to me looked a little stiff and suspect covering receivers. One of the many problems on the defense is the Steelers have all strong safety types in the box types, and no free safety types that can play cover 3, or man, and make plays on the ball. I actually like Bates over Edmunds as well.

Coach is right. Just because Justin's brother Eric is a jerk doesn't mean he is.

Look at my family. My younger brother didn't turn out to be a jerk.

 

[F83]

just draft devin bush and MLB problem solves and in nickel sets next year put ola at OLB MLB watt MLB bush OLB Dupree/fa/rook

 

[ark steel]

Did Justin ever take knee? His brother was a jerk, it doesn't mean he is.

Leonard was all over the field in college. I like playmakers and football players not necessary speed guys. For example I was a big fan of T.J Watt, and thought he would be a great pick for us. He's really not a speed guy.

Edmunds to me looked a little stiff and suspect covering receivers. One of the many problems on the defense is the Steelers have all strong safety types in the box types, and no free safety types that can play cover 3, or man, and make plays on the ball. I actually like Bates over Edmunds as well.

For the thousandth time, JUSTIN, the player we are discussing that is not his brother, was on video saying he supported it. What he could do on a college sideline is significantly different than what he can/might do on an NFL sideline. Most GM's weren't going to deal with the extra headache risk on a 1st or 2nd rounder. I'm glad ours was one of them. Putting a 3rd round pick on him must have been more palatable to GM's, obviously. Maybe, our GM would have been willing to throw a 3rd at him, too, but didn't get a chance.

While we are discussing Reid, didn't you also have taken Ronnie Harrison in the first?

 

[ark steel]

Coach is right. Just because Justin's brother Eric is a jerk doesn't mean he is.

Look at my family. My younger brother didn't turn out to be a jerk.

See my post. There was indication, Justin would be, too. Coach always ignores this and keeps posting the same thing, hoping no one will know.