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Haley Will Have More Weapons With Browns Than Steelers

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21STEELERS21

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After draft Cleveland could look like this on offense

QB
Tyrod Taylor run threat QB ( 500yds per year), decent accuracy, low turnover
Drafted QB of Future

RB's
#1 pick on Barkley
Carlos Hyde 2017 stats 938 rushing, 59 receptions
Duke Johnson 2017 stats 348 rushing 74 receptions for 693 yds

Could be 3 backs with 1000 yds from scrimmage potential

TE's
Njoku
Devalue
Fells

Njoku a first round pick from 2017 draft with high upside, backed up by two TE's with upside

WR's
Landry and Gordon starters

With Coleman, Ricardo Louis, Rashard Higgins decent second tier

Likely to use a high draft pick on another WR

Haley is the OC with the most knowledge to beat the Steelers, looks like he is building an offense that drives the Steelers nuts.
High powered running game, mobile QB and a lot of short passing forcing a team to tackle.

We still have the edge at QB, not sure we will have an edge anywhere else and if Bell and Bryant are gone after 2018, we will be way behind the Browns.
 
Well, they have a long way to come back from, and they need to change the culture first before contending for the division title. Def' won't go 0-16, but seeing them go 11-5 seems a bit far fetched even though offensively they look very formidable.
 
I just don't know what to say about that. They will be improved alright, but come on. I guess if they get better, we should play better against them since we always play down to them.
 
On paper, once again, the Clowns should win close to 8 games this year, especially if they take Barkley at No. 1 and then a QB at No. 4. Will they is the question. Their D is already legit.
 
I know reading some of their message boards, I can't find a single fan that wants Barkley #1. #4, yes. #1, No. Emphatically no. Most seem to think they can get a pretty good RB if they trade down from for and pick up additional picks. Might be something to that Carlos Hyde deal after all.
 
paper vs reality is a big difference, many of their roster hasn't won a game since last year, and at most the ones that have been there for a while joe Thomas and goron, 4 wins max latley, you would have to go bACK MANY YEARS WHEN THEY WON AT LEAST 5.
Hue cant out coach Tomlin, and Brown is better than landy and Gordon, toss up
Bell Conner vs hyde and possible Barkley we win b/c our OL
Brown vs Landry Brown
Gordon vs Bryant Gordon
Colman+ Njoku vs JUJU and Mcdonald we win as JUJU can play outside inside and even as a flex TE.
they have the edge pass rush, vs the run time will tell, secondary if we get a good SS then we have the edge, they will no longer be a cakewalk.
 
For a bad team we seem to always have a hard time putting them away. Browns are making some bold moves to improve.
 
A bit premature on the prognostication......Haley just lost his perennial All-Pro tackle to retirement. Their OL is substandard as it is. Hubbard was the bright spot...if Thomas came back.
 
it al lstarts with the QB and Taylor can't hold Ben's jock strap
 
I think Haley will get good production from his new offense. They may be exciting to watch.
 
Steelerz99 said:
Well, they have a long way to come back from, and they need to change the culture first before contending for the division title. Def' won't go 0-16, but seeing them go 11-5 seems a bit far fetched even though offensively they look very formidable.
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DVE’s Bill Crawford said this morning that he thought the Browns could easily double or triple their number of wins from last year. LOL!
 
exactly Haley will try to talk to the d that ben is going to do this and will hold on and look off and then go to this, but it will come down to can any DB contain brown, juju and bell out of the backfield. + vance
 
black and gold apex said:
For a bad team we seem to always have a hard time putting them away. Browns are making some bold moves to improve.
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Good Lord....2 of the last 3 times the Steelers played the Browns they benched half their team and still won.

I was also reading the Stain boards and cannot believe how almost every one wants a QB at #1 over Barkley and they fully expect him to be available at #4. No way that's happening.
 
If the Niners want to win now Id trade Bell for a second and use Bells money on defense. They have tons of cap room to pay his stupid price. I mean Id like a first but that aint happening.
 
So they'll have a bunch of guys who have never played together is what you are telling us coming off an 0-16 season
 
Doesn't matter as long as Tyrod Taylor is qb.
Much like the Bell situation doesn't matter, as long as Mike is at the helm he will find a way to lose to an inferior team, and a q.b who doesn't even belong in the league.(Tebow, Bortles) etc.
 
21STEELERS21 said:
After draft Cleveland could look like this on offense

QB
Tyrod Taylor run threat QB ( 500yds per year), decent accuracy, low turnover Taylor sucks ***
Drafted QB of Future could likely be a bust....name the last quality QB the stains drafted

RB's
#1 pick on Barkley complete unknown...may be good..may suck...maybe somewhere in between
Carlos Hyde 2017 stats 938 rushing, 59 receptions who cares...
Duke Johnson 2017 stats 348 rushing 74 receptions for 693 yds yawn

Could be 3 backs with 1000 yds from scrimmage potential could be none break 500

TE's
Njoku
Devalue
Fells

Njoku a first round pick from 2017 draft with high upside, backed up by two TE's with upside oh ****...when does Haley use the TE???

WR's
Landry and Gordon starters a possession receiver and gordon....with no one to get them the ball

With Coleman, Ricardo Louis, Rashard Higgins decent second tier

Likely to use a high draft pick on another WR

Haley is the OC with the most knowledge to beat the Steelers, looks like he is building an offense that drives the Steelers nuts. **** Haley
High powered running game, mobile QB and a lot of short passing forcing a team to tackle. maybe no running game and ****** qb play

We still have the edge at QB, not sure we will have an edge anywhere else and if Bell and Bryant are gone after 2018, we will be way behind the Browns until proven the Steelers have the edge at QB, RB, definitely WR and TE.....
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talk about some defeatist bullshit....
 
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