Draft Prospect veiw, Justin Reid

[Coach]

Justin Reid.

I took a look at the web clips on Reid. There is a lot to like.

Initial scouting report.

Positives: Reid is smart ( More on that later ), instinctive type of player with quick twitchy reflexes that allow him to close on passes before they get there. . His hands and leaping ability are elite. He can make diving interceptions, or quickly grab a deflected ball. With turnovers being key, this is an excellent ability to have. If I were to guess his vertical leap at the combine will be 38" inches.

Reid is the type of DB that keeps his eyes on the QB, and positioning himself in the front of a receiver, where his 6'1" frame and leaping ability allows him to high point and intercept the football. Qb's that try him on jump balls are going to pay. He's anything but they type who allows his man to catch it than tackle him after the completion. You could say he's a great deep coverage player, ideal for 3rd downs.

On film, you can see Reid in the slot, at corner, or traditional safety, so there is a lot of versatility in his game, however he's not an NFL type of corner, but could play some slot or cover the TE.

If you're looking for a zone cover 2, safety who can help with a cover 3 man ( we have not had a good one here in years ) or nickel or dime defender, Reid checks many boxes.

Reid has NFL bloodlines and is 6'1" tall with what looks to be longer than average arms.


Negatives: I was not a big fan of his tackling. Reid goes for the legs a lot and can also be a grab and swing down type. That might work in college, but in the NFL, can become broken tackles.

Reid's top-level speed looks average. I would not match him in the slot vs. a much quicker man; however because he is smart, and reacts well, this is more of an issue on short to medium type of passes in man coverage which we seldom ask our safeties to play. Not a big hitter type.


Summary: I think he'd make an ideal free safety and has the smarts and abilities to create turnovers in the NFL. A ball Hawk type with size and leaping ability. If Reid runs well enough, he's worth our pick in round one.


Why do I say he's a smart player, click below, and watch how he explains it. Reid likely has a very High football IQ, a nice contrast to some of the boneheaded after we've had recently. His character on and off the field to me look to be good.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...BE4235B525117AA2E771BE4235B52511&&FORM=VRDGAR

 

[Superman]

absolutely not. **** him and his brother.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Probably no coincidence Steeler Depot posted there Draft view on him today as well.. complete with analysis and video. Hmmm.. coincidence im sure

 

[Coach]

Probably no coincidence Steeler Depot posted there Draft view on him today as well.. complete with analysis and video. Hmmm.. coincidence im sure

I did not read it. You can tell me what was different.

Ps the only video I posted was the interview. There is a lot to watch on the web


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[slashsteel]

I took a look at the web clips on Reid.

You seem to always take the lazy easy approach to draft analysis.

But you love you some object when it comes to people who aren't lazy and actually dig a little deeper than a clip.

Regardless if I like this player or not your approach is laughable.

 

[slashsteel]

Probably no coincidence Steeler Depot posted there Draft view on him today as well.. complete with analysis and video. Hmmm.. coincidence im sure

no coincidence coach likes him some other people opinions masked as his own

 

[Ike Kelly]

Web clips?

Not game film? Did you watch at least one coach's game film on the kid?

 

[Superman]

Web clips?

Not game film? Did you watch at least one coach's game film on the kid?

game film? it doesnt take the bartender an entire game to pour a Coors Light.

 

[Coach]

You seem to always take the lazy easy approach to draft analysis.

But you love you some object when it comes to people who aren't lazy and actually dig a little deeper than a clip.

Regardless if I like this player or not your approach is laughable.

A glass house type? Where is your reviews if any. My opinions on Reid are my own.

 

[Superman]

Justin Reid.

I took a look at the web clips on Reid. There is a lot to like.

Initial scouting report.

Positives: Reid is smart ( More on that later ), instinctive type of player with quick twitchy reflexes that allow him to close on passes before they get there. . His hands and leaping ability are elite. He can make diving interceptions, or quickly grab a deflected ball. With turnovers being key, this is an excellent ability to have. If I were to guess his vertical leap at the combine will be 38" inches.

Reid is the type of DB that keeps his eyes on the QB, and positioning himself in the front of a receiver, where his 6'1" frame and leaping ability allows him to high point and intercept the football. Qb's that try him on jump balls are going to pay. He's anything but they type who allows his man to catch it than tackle him after the completion. You could say he's a great deep coverage player, ideal for 3rd downs.

On film, you can see Reid in the slot, at corner, or traditional safety, so there is a lot of versatility in his game, however he's not an NFL type of corner, but could play some slot or cover the TE.

If you're looking for a zone cover 2, safety who can help with a cover 3 man ( we have not had a good one here in years ) or nickel or dime defender, Reid checks many boxes.

Reid has NFL bloodlines and is 6'1" tall with what looks to be longer than average arms.


Negatives: I was not a big fan of his tackling. Reid goes for the legs a lot and can also be a grab and swing down type. That might work in college, but in the NFL, can become broken tackles.

Reid's top-level speed looks average. I would not match him in the slot vs. a much quicker man; however because he is smart, and reacts well, this is more of an issue on short to medium type of passes in man coverage which we seldom ask our safeties to play. Not a big hitter type.


Summary: I think he'd make an ideal free safety and has the smarts and abilities to create turnovers in the NFL. A ball Hawk type with size and leaping ability. If Reid runs well enough, he's worth our pick in round one.


Why do I say he's a smart player, click below, and watch how he explains it. Reid likely has a very High football IQ, a nice contrast to some of the boneheaded after we've had recently. His character on and off the field to me look to be good.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...BE4235B525117AA2E771BE4235B52511&&FORM=VRDGAR

hmmmmmmmmmmm.... as ant said...

By Alex Kozora March 1, 2018 at 09:30 am

From now until the 2018 NFL Draft takes place, we hope to showcase as many prospects as possible and examine both their strengths and weaknesses. Most of these profiles will feature individuals that the Pittsburgh Steelers are likely to have an interest in, while a few others will be top-ranked players. If there is a player you would like us to analyze, let us know in the comments below.

#8 Justin Reid/S Stanford – 6’1 204

The Good

– Impressive frame, upper body bulk, looks the part
– Plus athlete, excellent closing speed, sideline-to-sideline range
– Capable open field tackler with the upper body strength and length to make difficult tackles, even when he isn’t playing balanced or doesn’t have his base to help him (diving tackles)
– Great job of finding the ball in coverage, times his jumps perfectly and a strong leaper, capable of finishing plays
– Powerful hitter, physical demeanor
– Versatile, lined up in variety of spots, experience in centerfield, over slot, in box, blitzing, man/zone
– Appears to be good communicator and leader on making calls
– Reroutes in zone coverage are physical, jamming and/or funneling receivers
– Aggressive player with potential to make splash plays, wants the ball
– Very productive final season
– Great football bloodlines and athletic family

The Bad

– Spent most of the time in the slot, projection in moving him to safety
– Very aggressive in man coverage, bad eye discipline at corner, and guesses on routes too often
– Gives up too many big plays
– Needs to be more consistent playing the pocket and hands of the receiver, finishing the play when he doesn’t have INT possibility
– Has to do better job coming to balance as a tackler, too often flailing and relying on athleticism and upper body strength to make the play
– Poor angles in coverage in the slot, not playing to upfield shoulder enough and gives up YAC if he can’t cut underneath and make the play
– One year of serious production

Tape Breakdown

Reid is a tough guy to figure out, just like some of the other safeties we’ve reviewed. What makes him tough is an NFL projection. Listed by most places, including us, as a safety but at Stanford, he mostly played slot corner. Against 11 personnel (3 WRs) or Twin WR sets, he rolled down over the slot. Only against heavier personnel did we see him in more of a true safety role.

One thing I can say with confidence? He’s not staying in the slot. Reid plays like a natural safety. As a nickel corner, he was aggressive. Too aggressive. But when he had to play like a safety, he excelled.

Check out these pair of interceptions. Find the ball, time the jump, make the play.

*screams into megaphone*

That’s what the Steelers need.

And similar to DeShon Elliott, probably even better, he can cover sideline-to-sideline. Love his closing speed.

But in the slot? Not nearly as much success. As many big plays allowed as the number he created. Slot to the bottom in the clip below. Pitch and catch.

And he’s gotta be a more consistent tackler. More balance and bringing his lower half to the party.

We know he isn’t going to play in the slot at the next level. I think he can support the run well as the in-the-box SS but I worry about getting him matched up in the slot that often is problematic. I think you have to project him at free safety; not a ton of tape there. But looking at his skillset, that’s likely to be his best – and really only – fit.

I do think he’ll test well at the Combine on Monday. That’ll boost his stock and could him into the late first round consideration around where the Steelers are picking. Not a lot of safeties to choose from at that point and if the team wants to go that route, he could be their best option.

 

[antdrewjosh]

hmmmmmmmmmmm.... as ant said...

Hahahahahahahahaha

 

[Coach]

My disagreements in BOLD

By Alex Kozora March 1, 2018 at 09:30 am

From now until the 2018 NFL Draft takes place, we hope to showcase as many prospects as possible and examine both their strengths and weaknesses. Most of these profiles will feature individuals that the Pittsburgh Steelers are likely to have an interest in, while a few others will be top-ranked players. If there is a player you would like us to analyze, let us know in the comments below.

#8 Justin Reid/S Stanford – 6’1 204

The Good

– Impressive frame, upper body bulk, looks the part
– Plus athlete, excellent closing speed, sideline-to-sideline range
– Capable open field tackler with the upper body strength and length to make difficult tackles, even when he isn’t playing balanced or doesn’t have his base to help him (diving tackles)
– Great job of finding the ball in coverage, times his jumps perfectly and a strong leaper, capable of finishing plays
– Powerful hitter, physical demeanor
– Versatile, lined up in variety of spots, experience in centerfield, over slot, in box, blitzing, man/zone
– Appears to be good communicator and leader on making calls
– Reroutes in zone coverage are physical, jamming and/or funneling receivers
– Aggressive player with potential to make splash plays, wants the ball
– Very productive final season
– Great football bloodlines and athletic family

The Bad

– Spent most of the time in the slot, projection in moving him to safety
– Very aggressive in man coverage, bad eye discipline at corner, and guesses on routes too often
– Gives up too many big plays ( How many at safety )
– Needs to be more consistent playing the pocket and hands of the receiver, finishing the play when he doesn’t have INT possibility
– Has to do better job coming to balance as a tackler, too often flailing and relying on athleticism and upper body strength to make the play
– Poor angles in coverage in the slot, not playing to upfield shoulder enough and gives up YAC if he can’t cut underneath and make the play
– One year of serious production

Tape Breakdown

Reid is a tough guy to figure out, just like some of the other safeties we’ve reviewed. What makes him tough is an NFL projection. Listed by most places, including us, as a safety but at Stanford, he mostly played slot corner. Against 11 personnel (3 WRs) or Twin WR sets, he rolled down over the slot. Only against heavier personnel did we see him in more of a true safety role.

One thing I can say with confidence? He’s not staying in the slot. Reid plays like a natural safety. As a nickel corner, he was aggressive. Too aggressive. But when he had to play like a safety, he excelled.

Check out these pair of interceptions. Find the ball, time the jump, make the play.

*screams into megaphone*

That’s what the Steelers need.

And similar to DeShon Elliott, probably even better, he can cover sideline-to-sideline. Love his closing speed.

But in the slot? Not nearly as much success. As many big plays allowed as the number he created. Slot to the bottom in the clip below. Pitch and catch.

And he’s gotta be a more consistent tackler. More balance and bringing his lower half to the party.

We know he isn’t going to play in the slot at the next level. I think he can support the run well as the in-the-box SS but I worry about getting him matched up in the slot that often is problematic. I think you have to project him at free safety; not a ton of tape there. But looking at his skillset, that’s likely to be his best – and really only – fit.

I do think he’ll test well at the Combine on Monday. That’ll boost his stock and could him into the late first round consideration around where the Steelers are picking. Not a lot of safeties to choose from at that point and if the team wants to go that route, he could be their best option.

I disagree he is not a big hitter or powerful hitter.

Reid is not a tough guy to figure out, he played in many areas, giving you an idea of where he's best.

Korza,or whomever gave him a scouting report, badly missed on what stands out on Reid, that is Football smarts/instincts, Ball skills, jumping ability and hands.

The report mentioned zero about coverage schemes, unlike mine.

What I said differs a bit from what he said, but I guess if you look at any scouting report you can find some agrees of agreement.

I do agree Reid is not an NFL corner and won't play on the outside there, so talking about that part of his game as a negatively means little. I think he can play some slot, and cover TE's. The covering of TE's was not mentioned by Steeler Depot at all, but I'd prefer Hilton to keep up the good work at slot. You could say I'd rather see Reid cover TE's, and Hilton cover the smaller quicker types in the slot. Neither should be matched vs a burner. Currently the Steelers have no player good at covering TE's. Only Shazier could ( his career is likely over ). Davis when he tried to cover TE's was badly exposed.

If Evans and Vander Esch are off the board, this could be the pick but I want to see how DB's run before endorsing them as a high pick.

 

[antdrewjosh]

My disagreements in BOLD




I disagree he is not a big hitter or powerful hitter.

Reid is not a tough guy to figure out, he played in many areas, giving you an idea of where he's best.

Korza,or whomever gave him a scouting report, badly missed on what stands out on Reid, that is Football smarts/instincts, Ball skills, jumping ability and hands.

The report mentioned zero about coverage schemes, unlike mine.

What I said differs a bit from what he said, but I guess if you look at any scouting report you can find some agrees of agreement.

I do agree Reid is not an NFL corner and won't play on the outside there, so talking about that part of his game as a negatively means little. I think he can play some slot, and cover TE's. The covering of TE's was not mentioned by Steeler Depot at all, but I'd prefer Hilton to keep up the good work at slot. You could say I'd rather see Reid cover TE's, and Hilton cover the smaller quicker types in the slot. Neither should be matched vs a burner. Currently the Steelers have no player good at covering TE's. Only Shazier could ( his career is likely over ). Davis when he tried to cover TE's was badly exposed.

If Evans and Vander Esch are off the board, this could be the pick but I want to see how DB's run before endorsing them as a high pick.

So now his opinion is wrong? Why cant you and him just see things differently. Why is he wrong??

 

[slashsteel]

A glass house type? Where is your reviews if any. My opinions on Reid are my own.

all based on clips huh, STFU

you read their **** and then altered it a little

that is my review of you fucktarded twatwaffling fuckstick

 

[SteelBuckeye]

all based on clips huh, STFU

you read their **** and then altered it a little

that is my review of you fucktarded twatwaffling fuckstick

 

[Ike Kelly]

Justin Reid.

I took a look at the web clips on Reid. There is a lot to like.

Initial scouting report.

Positives: Reid is smart ( More on that later ), instinctive type of player with quick twitchy reflexes that allow him to close on passes before they get there. . His hands and leaping ability are elite. He can make diving interceptions, or quickly grab a deflected ball. With turnovers being key, this is an excellent ability to have. If I were to guess his vertical leap at the combine will be 38" inches.

Reid is the type of DB that keeps his eyes on the QB, and positioning himself in the front of a receiver, where his 6'1" frame and leaping ability allows him to high point and intercept the football. Qb's that try him on jump balls are going to pay. He's anything but they type who allows his man to catch it than tackle him after the completion. You could say he's a great deep coverage player, ideal for 3rd downs.

On film, you can see Reid in the slot, at corner, or traditional safety, so there is a lot of versatility in his game, however he's not an NFL type of corner, but could play some slot or cover the TE.

If you're looking for a zone cover 2, safety who can help with a cover 3 man ( we have not had a good one here in years ) or nickel or dime defender, Reid checks many boxes.

Reid has NFL bloodlines and is 6'1" tall with what looks to be longer than average arms.


Negatives: I was not a big fan of his tackling. Reid goes for the legs a lot and can also be a grab and swing down type. That might work in college, but in the NFL, can become broken tackles.

Reid's top-level speed looks average. I would not match him in the slot vs. a much quicker man; however because he is smart, and reacts well, this is more of an issue on short to medium type of passes in man coverage which we seldom ask our safeties to play. Not a big hitter type.


Summary: I think he'd make an ideal free safety and has the smarts and abilities to create turnovers in the NFL. A ball Hawk type with size and leaping ability. If Reid runs well enough, he's worth our pick in round one.


Why do I say he's a smart player, click below, and watch how he explains it. Reid likely has a very High football IQ, a nice contrast to some of the boneheaded after we've had recently. His character on and off the field to me look to be good.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...BE4235B525117AA2E771BE4235B52511&&FORM=VRDGAR

hmmmmmmmmmmm.... as ant said...

My disagreements in BOLD




I disagree he is not a big hitter or powerful hitter.

Reid is not a tough guy to figure out, he played in many areas, giving you an idea of where he's best.

Korza,or whomever gave him a scouting report, badly missed on what stands out on Reid, that is Football smarts/instincts, Ball skills, jumping ability and hands.

The report mentioned zero about coverage schemes, unlike mine.

What I said differs a bit from what he said, but I guess if you look at any scouting report you can find some agrees of agreement.

I do agree Reid is not an NFL corner and won't play on the outside there, so talking about that part of his game as a negatively means little. I think he can play some slot, and cover TE's. The covering of TE's was not mentioned by Steeler Depot at all, but I'd prefer Hilton to keep up the good work at slot. You could say I'd rather see Reid cover TE's, and Hilton cover the smaller quicker types in the slot. Neither should be matched vs a burner. Currently the Steelers have no player good at covering TE's. Only Shazier could ( his career is likely over ). Davis when he tried to cover TE's was badly exposed.

If Evans and Vander Esch are off the board, this could be the pick but I want to see how DB's run before endorsing them as a high pick.

Hilarious.......You say "On film, you can see Reid in the slot, at corner, or traditional safety, so there is a lot of versatility in his game, however he's not an NFL type of corner, but could play some slot or cover the TE.

If you're looking for a zone cover 2, safety who can help with a cover 3 man ( we have not had a good one here in years ) or nickel or dime defender, Reid checks many boxes."; yet you then posit; "I would not match him in the slot vs. a much quicker man; however because he is smart, and reacts well, this is more of an issue on short to medium type of passes in man coverage which we seldom ask our safeties to play".

So which is it? He is slot capable or not slot capable? Talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Then you mention "The report mentioned zero about coverage schemes, unlike mine".....and "The covering of TE's was not mentioned by Steeler Depot ".

However, Korza states":

– Versatile, lined up in variety of spots, experience in centerfield, over slot, in box, blitzing, man/zone
– Appears to be good communicator and leader on making calls
– Reroutes in zone coverage are physical, jamming and/or funneling receivers"

This extrapolates coverage schemes on the defensive side of the ball, including covering TE's (reroutes in zone are physicial, jamming..." He just explains it better than you........Any disagree? (besides you Coach)

 

[slashsteel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmptwKDBbI

He looks more like a FS than a SS for sure. Here is some game film coach if you dare to look.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

it will be interesting if his activism hurts his draft stock. It probably won't because even if a bunch of teams take him off their board, there will be enough that don't care and will draft him close to his projected spot anyway.

 

[Litos]

My disagreements in BOLD




I disagree he is not a big hitter or powerful hitter.

Reid is not a tough guy to figure out, he played in many areas, giving you an idea of where he's best.

Korza,or whomever gave him a scouting report, badly missed on what stands out on Reid, that is Football smarts/instincts, Ball skills, jumping ability and hands.

The report mentioned zero about coverage schemes, unlike mine.

What I said differs a bit from what he said, but I guess if you look at any scouting report you can find some agrees of agreement.

I do agree Reid is not an NFL corner and won't play on the outside there, so talking about that part of his game as a negatively means little. I think he can play some slot, and cover TE's. The covering of TE's was not mentioned by Steeler Depot at all, but I'd prefer Hilton to keep up the good work at slot. You could say I'd rather see Reid cover TE's, and Hilton cover the smaller quicker types in the slot. Neither should be matched vs a burner. Currently the Steelers have no player good at covering TE's. Only Shazier could ( his career is likely over ). Davis when he tried to cover TE's was badly exposed.

If Evans and Vander Esch are off the board, this could be the pick but I want to see how DB's run before endorsing them as a high pick.

if we draft vander esch in the first my dog is gonna pay for it. We don't want that to happen...

 

[Litos]

game film? it doesnt take the bartender an entire game to pour a Coors Light.

pit of misery!!! Dilly Dilly!!!

 

[Coach]

So now his opinion is wrong? Why cant you and him just see things differently. Why is he wrong??

Maybe we looked at different film. I'm not sure if this is solely his opinion or somebody's break down.

Reid is a go for the legs or swings down type of tackler too often. He's not a solid wrap up type. And he's certainly not a big hitter. Its there on film to see.

I'm okay with just an average tackler at free safety as long as he's a solid coverage guy and playmaker. I think Reid can help us in the red zone and would be better than any safety we have regarding covering the tight ends.

I believe Reid is a smart man ( He went to Stanford ) and due to his playing style won't be flagged for Mike Mitchell bonehead like hits.

As for Korza, I like him going off on a limb and find his opinions to be interesting as he is watching the practices live. Someone told me he was a very young adult, so if he keeps it up, he will get better over time. Football media types who comment on the draft tend to know more at 30 and 40 than they did at age 22 or so.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Maybe we looked at different film. I'm not sure if this is solely his opinion or somebody's break down.

Reid is a go for the legs or swings down type of tackler too often. He's not a solid wrap up type. And he's certainly not a big hitter. Its there on film to see.

I'm okay with just an average tackler at free safety as long as he's a solid coverage guy and playmaker. I think Reid can help us in the red zone and would be better than any safety we have regarding covering the tight ends.

I believe Reid is a smart man ( He went to Stanford ) and due to his playing style won't be flagged for Mike Mitchell bonehead like hits.

As for Korza, I like him going off on a limb and find his opinions to be interesting as he is watching the practices live. Someone told me he was a very young adult, so if he keeps it up, he will get better over time. Football media types who comment on the draft tend to know more at 30 and 40 than they did at age 22 or so.

So whats your problem??

 

[Coach]

if we draft vander esch in the first my dog is gonna pay for it. We don't want that to happen...

Please don't go Mike Vick on the pooch. I get the humor, but what did you see on film that you did not like about Vander Esch?

I will watch Vander Esch on film bit later. I am suspicious about one-year wonders who did it vs. weak competition, so he's going to need to stand out on film and work out well.

At the combine, he needs to show some strength. If his bench press results are weak, that to me is a red flag. The legs and arms look a little thin by middle linebacker standards.

 

[Coach]

So whats your problem??

I said had disagreements with parts of the scouting report, how is that a problem?

Looking forward to Superman's, yours. and Ike's scouting reports. I do not think you have the ability to pen them, and if you do, I'll archive for later reveal . So in a way I'm making sure you don't do it.

I do have fun here!

 

[antdrewjosh]

Please don't go Mike Vick on the pooch. I get the humor, but what did you see on film that you did not like about Vander Esch?

I will watch Vander Esch on film bit later. I am suspicious about one-year wonders who did it vs. weak competition, so he's going to need to stand out on film and work out well.

At the combine, he needs to show some strength. If his bench press results are weak, that to me is a red flag. The legs and arms look a little thin by middle linebacker standards.

I will admit the one year thing worries me too. But i love his height weight