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Thursday night games controversy

Cope said:
Plus players only miss part of a period to stitch a laceration. In Cleveland, the staph infection from sewing it up may be career ending.

Never saw 2 hockey players hit each other full speed toward each other? Usually one doesn't get up. Force = mass x acceleration. You can go way faster on skates than you can on feet. Hardest hits in all of professional sports.
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Very true VERY TRUE. Just go and run full speed into a solid wood fence (doesn't even need to be very solid) and see how it feels. NOW double that speed and you are talking hockey. Obviously not every hit is FULL speed but there are a lot of hits that are of greater speed than RBs hitting the hole. Hockey also deals with suspensions / head shots / and in GENERAL way faster and decisive as their commissioner has his **** together way the hell lot better than pour football moron.




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Cope said:
Plus players only miss part of a period to stitch a laceration. In Cleveland, the staph infection from sewing it up may be career ending.

Never saw 2 hockey players hit each other full speed toward each other? Usually one doesn't get up. Force = mass x acceleration. You can go way faster on skates than you can on feet. Hardest hits in all of professional sports.
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That's what i'm saying, i've never see it happen. now i've seen them skate at one another and clip them with a hip or what not. but never face to face(I don't think either man would get up). Also players get hurt a lot in the NHL. they miss multiple weeks through out the year. but there never lost for the year because the were IR'ed. they have farm teams that they can call players up to replace them. The NFL needs to expand rosters and do away with IR. no player should be lost for the season, when they can come back at some point. all because you have had a rash of injuries and used up your a allotted IR'ed players. Stupid
 
Big Ben Rules said:
That's what i'm saying, i've never see it happen. now i've seen them skate at one another and clip them with a hip or what not. but never face to face(I don't think either man would get up). Also players get hurt a lot in the NHL. they miss multiple weeks through out the year. but there never lost for the year because the were IR'ed. they have farm teams that they can call players up to replace them. The NFL needs to expand rosters and do away with IR. no player should be lost for the season, when they can come back at some point. all because you have had a rash of injuries and used up your a allotted IR'ed players. Stupid
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YouTube it. Hockey's hardest hits. It's brutal. I just watched Malkin get slashed on his wrists with a hockey stick, he pulled up from the pain and then gets checked into the boards that left him doubled over heading to the bench...90 seconds later he's back on the ice. If that was an NFL player...***** would be probable for the next game scheduled 7 days later.
 
NFL injuries are totally different than hockey. Rarely do hockey players get hit in the knee and have their foot stick in the ice, there's almost 0 stress on an ACL in hockey. Same with hamstrings, hell you could have a pulled hamstring and still skate pretty much the same. Hockey players never have 325lb guys hit them then land on them resulting in broken collar bones. I love and watch hockey, use to play, but football players take way more physical abuse.

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Coryea said:
NFL injuries are totally different than hockey. Rarely do hockey players get hit in the knee and have their foot stick in the ice, there's almost 0 stress on an ACL in hockey. Same with hamstrings, hell you could have a pulled hamstring and still skate pretty much the same. Hockey players never have 325lb guys hit them then land on them resulting in broken collar bones. I love and watch hockey, use to play, but football players take way more physical abuse.

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Then you've never seen a knee to knee hit or a slew foot. Very dangerous and potentially career ending plays. Not to mention the off chance someone goes nuts on the ice and swings their stick like a weapon at your head. That stuff can't physically happen in football.
 
Cope said:
Then you've never seen a knee to knee hit or a slew foot. Very dangerous and potentially career ending plays. Not to mention the off chance someone goes nuts on the ice and swings their stick like a weapon at your head. That stuff can't physically happen in football.
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Yeah but how often do ACL or other ligament damage to knees occur in hockey? That's probably the majority of IR injuries in Football, and hockey players can't plant their feet and drive a guy into the ice.

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Coryea said:
Yeah but how often do ACL or other ligament damage to knees occur in hockey? That's probably the majority of IR injuries in Football, and hockey players can't plant their feet and drive a guy into the ice.

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While true about the difference between wrapping and tackling, ACL injuries don't usually occur on a wrap or tackle. They are from a high velocity impact, or non contact foot stuck in the turf. Skates are on an edge and they can get in a grove, so when hit, it causes some trauma to the knee. Though their ankles are largely protected, since the skates lace up above it. It takes extreme force to break an ankle in hockey. Though it does happen. Goalies actually have the highest percentage chance of blowing a knee than any other player. In butterfly, the knees are bent and the goalie is actually resting on their MCLs. When they are run into, in that prone position, ligaments fly.

There is also some confusion to what type of injury someone actually gets, because in hockey, they are not specific on the type of injury. Only an upper body or lower body designation to injury is given when a player is placed on IR.

Concussions are usually the most significant season ending injury in hockey. Broken wrists from slashing are up there as well.

Though hockey also suffers from CTE. There was a damaging report found 4 JR players with CTE after their suicides. http://www.tsn.ca/four-junior-hockey-players-diagnosed-with-cte-researcher-says-1.730445
 
Cope said:
Then you've never seen a knee to knee hit or a slew foot. Very dangerous and potentially career ending plays. Not to mention the off chance someone goes nuts on the ice and swings their stick like a weapon at your head. That stuff can't physically happen in football.
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So, when was the last time an NHL player or a hockey player at any level, been paralyzed. I don't know, you tell me. at any level. it's happened in the NFL, College football, and High School football. the fact is both sports have some tough SOB 's.
 
Big Ben Rules said:
So, when was the last time an NHL player or a hockey player at any level, been paralyzed. I don't know, you tell me. at any level. it's happened in the NFL, College football, and High School football. the fact is both sports have some tough SOB 's.
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Last year or the year before. An outdoor game in Boston. Some chick got paralyzed in hockey.

Her name is Denna Laing
 
Having played both sports. There is a reasoning to why football is played once a week.
Not saying hockey is physically demanding. Cause high school hockey seaosn was my best cardiovascular shape ever.

But football has freakish athletes who are way too big for their frame. I think the O and D line followed by Linebackers and RB's have a rough lifestyle. I played safety in high school and messed up my shoulder lighting up a guy. Mind you I'm 5'7 180lbs. In high school I was 160. Taking on someone 200+lbs. Depending on impact.

Same with hockey. The initial shock and falling onto hard surfaces hurt like a *****.
However, in hockey; The emphasis is on recovery.

It's hard to compare both sports. They both hurt. I enjoyed hockey more during my play time.
It takes a certain badass to be a pro at these two sports. Which is why internationally they are not as big as soccer.
Hockey and football are brutal. So...kudos to both sports.

I think kickers, receivers and some QB's give football a bad name lol.
We used to call our players pretty boys/divas.

In conclusion. It's hard to say why hockey plays this much games in a week, compared to football being played once a week.
 
**** those whiners. They should just quit and show the owners what is what, then take those free College Degrees they got and get on with their life's work.
 
Big Ben Rules said:
I've never seen 2 NHL players, skating as fast as they can. and hit each other. it has been said countless times, that every time NFL player run into each other. is equivalent to a 20 mph car crash. getting hit on the boards is not even close. hell 1 guy isn't even moving.
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Often the QB isn't moving when they get hit, and there are no boards, so it must not hurt at all.


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Is this the real reason the Steelers sleep walked through the Colts game until they did what was necessary to win?
It was all about the Thursday night game so the Steelers would have enough gas in the tank to beat the snot out of the Titans!
Nice strategy!
 
MTC said:
Having played both sports. There is a reasoning to why football is played once a week.
Not saying hockey is physically demanding. Cause high school hockey seaosn was my best cardiovascular shape ever.

But football has freakish athletes who are way too big for their frame. I think the O and D line followed by Linebackers and RB's have a rough lifestyle. I played safety in high school and messed up my shoulder lighting up a guy. Mind you I'm 5'7 180lbs. In high school I was 160. Taking on someone 200+lbs. Depending on impact.

Same with hockey. The initial shock and falling onto hard surfaces hurt like a *****.
However, in hockey; The emphasis is on recovery.

It's hard to compare both sports. They both hurt. I enjoyed hockey more during my play time.
It takes a certain badass to be a pro at these two sports. Which is why internationally they are not as big as soccer.
Hockey and football are brutal. So...kudos to both sports.

I think kickers, receivers and some QB's give football a bad name lol.
We used to call our players pretty boys/divas.

In conclusion. It's hard to say why hockey plays this much games in a week, compared to football being played once a week.
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It's because of the actual time on the ice, the fact that you have multiple lines in and out of the game, and also there aren't collisions on every single play on more than half of the players. You'll get your checks here and there, and then of course into the boards in hockey, and they can be nasty and violent for sure. But it's nothing something that happens on each and every play. There's a lot of ways to avoid getting hit in hockey. In football, especially if you're a lineman, you're having a collision on every single play, running backs and tight ends would be second on the list of amount of contact they take/give.

I think hockey is played too much, but I can see how they are able to play more games than football. Two violent sports, but two different kinds of violent.
 
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