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Haden, Burns Ready to Man Up

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The Steelers defense currently ranks second in the NFL against the pass. That’s something that not many could comprehend prior to the 2016 NFL Draft. That was when the process for rebuilding a secondary that had lost Ike Taylor, Troy Polamalu, and Ryan Clark finally got serious.

Artie Burns came in the first round. Finally […]

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Just curious, why didn't they go to man in the second half at Detroit?

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Just curious, why didn't they go to man in the second half at Detroit?

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The burning question.

Some QBs you have to adjust against. I didn't think they overly did that against Detroit.

Pats will be the ultimate test.

Hopefully they won't play too much zone that day..............
 
Do we ever make any major adjustments during games?
 
The burning question.

Some QBs you have to adjust against. I didn't think they overly did that against Detroit.

Pats will be the ultimate test.

Hopefully they won't play too much zone that day..............

I'm okay with a zone as long as they don't sore more than 2 TD's. We play zone, but the coverage is better and we make more plays on ball these days. Blake and Cockerel are long gone. Good riddance! Remember they used to start. Our underneath coverage with Shaizer and Watt seems to be solid. Hilton is good in the slot and really tackles well.

The best news is the zone goes away as the opposing offense gets inside the 10 yard line.

While I think Burns and Haden are good man defenders, we still can't play cover three well in my opinion, and neither of our safeties should be trusted in man vs a fast WR or much larger TE. They would be toast.

A good coverage safety with speed, ball skills and smarts would really offer us flexibility in coverage.
 
Steelers ready to 'evolve' with man coverage entering crucial stretch
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Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer
PITTSBURGH -- Aaron Rodgers. Deshaun Watson. Andrew Luck.

All are talented signal-callers that the Steelers' secondary doesn't have to face in the second half of the season due to injury. Coupled with Tom Brady and Marcus Mariota on the latter part of the schedule, the Steelers had prepared for an onslaught of talented passers that would require a versatile coverage plan.

Now, Pittsburgh is left to process the quarterback in front of them, who, this week, is Indianapolis Colts quarterback Jacoby Brissett.

"Good for us, bad for them," said Steelers cornerback Artie Burns of the injured quarterbacks. "I wanted to play against them."

Injuries to the opposing teams' quarterbacks have softened the Steelers' schedule over the past three seasons, with Luck set to miss three straight matchups with Pittsburgh, including this Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium. Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton and Ryan Tannehill also missed Steelers games during that span.

But Brady and others will inevitably test the merits of this improved defense, just like Matthew Stafford did with 423 passing yards in Week 8.

If the Steelers are to have a complete defensive turnaround, they'll likely rely on man and zone coverages from now until February.

Defensive backs coach Carnell Lake stressed that in the spring, and he wasn't backing down during the bye week, either.

"As we develop as a secondary and teams start to hone in on what we're doing, we're going to have to evolve too," Lake said. "I think man-to-man will be a part of that."

The Steelers rank second in passing defense after failing to crack the top 15 in the past three seasons. They've done this thanks to consistent pressure (26 sacks ranks fourth), timely red zone work (16.4 points allowed per week ranks second) and a cohesive secondary that returns three starters plus Joe Haden, a timely addition.

Steelers corners have mostly gone unnoticed this season, which is exactly what coach Mike Tomlin wants.

The Steelers say they've mixed man and zone coverages, particularly with a "fire zone" hybrid defense that allows outside corners to play in one-on-one settings. Stafford had minimal problems meeting these defenses in Week 8, though many Steelers agree the 20-15 win against the Detroit Lions was their worst coverage game from an assignment standpoint.

Burns was a press-man corner at the University of Miami who estimates he has played man about 35 percent of this season's snaps. He knows the Steelers haven't utilized the entire defensive playbook, though they've been practicing every page of it each week. He hopes rolling out the right coverages will leave them more prepared than a year ago in Foxborough, where Brady's New England offense flamed Pittsburgh for 36 points in the playoffs.

"Tight coverage, close coverage, will help the [pressure] get there," Burns said. "The quarterback's got to be back there patting the ball. Then we can mix in some zone too; that's when the picks come."

That defensive evolution requires more reps against top quarterbacks, of which the Steelers don't see enough. The Patriots' Dec. 17 appearance at Heinz Field is sure to promise a playoff atmosphere. Will they throw everything at Brady in efforts to be unpredictable or reduce the playbook and save some options for the playoffs?

First, the Steelers are worried about Brissett, who threw for 308 yards and two touchdowns on Sunday in a 20-14 win over the Houston Texans.

"Whenever we need it, we will go to [man]," Burns said. "We’re playing teams that want to put the ball down the field. We’ve been training for this, the chance to play good receivers and quarterbacks. We’ve got a little stretch where we’re going to keep seeing teams that throw the ball. We’ve got to start honing on our technique."

Haden is eager to see that process play out. The Steelers signed Haden to a three-year, $27 million deal in part for his man-coverage skills.

"[Burns] feels like he can cover everybody just the same way I could," Haden said.

http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh...olve-with-man-coverage-but-which-qbs-are-left
 
Its not just man v zone, we need to put pressure on the opposing QB or they're going to move the ball down field.
 
We did some man under zone. Last night Green Bay tried to run man against Detroit and couldn't get Safford off the field.
That's GB, we gave up 200 yards passing in the first half and we still played mostly zone in the second half. I don't know if we don't want to show our cards, but there was very little man coverage in the second half, and a ton of only rushing 3 guys with very little pressure

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Just curious, why didn't they go to man in the second half at Detroit?

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That's GB, we gave up 200 yards passing in the first half and we still played mostly zone in the second half. I don't know if we don't want to show our cards, but there was very little man coverage in the second half, and a ton of only rushing 3 guys with very little pressure

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That's true. My point is a good QB will be able to exploit defenses playing man or zone. The trick is to pressure and confuse coverage to get good QBs rattled.
 
I'm curious to see what they do this Sunday and yes it's agains Indy but we best not overlook them. We will come to play and I think they play a little of everything defenseive wise. I know it's not LUCK playing but the kid still had good numbers last week.




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