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Sean Davis making plays!!!

Cope said:
Ooh, he's up from your previous ranking of #10!

I don't rank defenders, I don't think it's fair to compare a DB to a LB or DL. They can't play those other positions. What I see is either a playmaker, a potential playmaker, or a body.

Playmakers:
Tuitt
Hayward
Watt
Dupree
Shazier
Davis
Burns
Hayden
Hilton

Potential Playmaker
Hargrave
Harrison
Chickillo

Just a guy
Williams (though he did have one excellent playmaking game, so he can rise)
Mitchell
Matakevich
Fort
Gay
Moats

All they guys have potential to improve. Hargrave was a playmaker last year, and can move up as well.

We have 8/11 starters that are playmakers, and Hilton in the Nickel. This D is already special and has room to get better due to the youth and getting used to the system. You can see it improve each week, and they're already playing at a high level. They are truly fun to watch!
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You don't have to rank them . On the playmakers you listed, pretty much everyone you listed has more than Davis. My point stands.

Also Vince Williams has FOUR sacks in 7 games played. Isn't that a playmaker?
 
Coach said:
You don't have to rank them . On the playmakers you listed, pretty much everyone you listed has more than Davis. My point stands.

Also Vince Williams has FOUR sacks in 7 games played. Isn't that a playmaker?
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Wow, you're calling Williams a playmaker instead of being a product of the formation? Middle linebackers don't rush the passer unless it's a blitz. They are going to run unblocked, toward the QB. They'd better get a sack...

Vince also got powned against the Jags. Though much props to him admitting he only hurt his pride on that play.

Sean Davis has made a play in every game this year and you're bias toward him, still can't see it. Maybe if you watched the games, you would see it...
 
lulz is coach still hating on Davis...consistent.......

I like Davis as far as those rankings no way I take him over Haden. Haden for me gets a lot of credit for turning this pass defense around.
 
Until we have a head measurement, we just cant judge his talent level.

But sure seems like a great draft pick. Considering our pass defense has gone like worst to first.
 
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2017/10/film-room-sean-davis-continuing-improved-play/
 
Here's a good article showing the plays Davis made and missed in Detroit. I'm surprised they didn't show the play where he filled the B gap at the goaline to stop a TD.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2017/11/film-room-sean-davis-saves-another-score/

Even on the plays he missed, his speed when he clicks and closes is exceptional. I also like to see a safety at the point of attack on receptions. Not tackling after the catch.
 
Cope said:
Here's a good article showing the plays Davis made and missed in Detroit. I'm surprised they didn't show the play where he filled the B gap at the goaline to stop a TD.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2017/11/film-room-sean-davis-saves-another-score/

Even on the plays he missed, his speed when he clicks and closes is exceptional. I also like to see a safety at the point of attack on receptions. Not tackling after the catch.
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Coach: ignores this post. Makes another post talking about a penalty against the lions and one interception.
 
slashsteel said:
lulz is coach still hating on Davis...consistent.......

I like Davis as far as those rankings no way I take him over Haden. Haden for me gets a lot of credit for turning this pass defense around.
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Haden > Davis. And its not even close. We can win without Davis. But if Heyward, Watt, Tuitt, Shazier, Burns or Haden is out, the entire unit takes a hit.
 
antdrewjosh said:
Coach: ignores this post. Makes another post talking about a penalty against the lions and one interception.
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This is why I love to bury you with NFL Data and 3rd party. I don't write them, they just happen to agree with me. Davis does not make many plays on the ball. He has 0 interceptions and 0 sacks this season, and like I said allows his man to get open too often.

When he makes a play, you can go gaga, but its not often enough.
 
I think what everyone here is missing is that Davis has to feel like **** reading this. Knowing that coach is down on him has to make it doubly difficult to get up for games. Coach, if Sean Davis has a bad game against Indy, I ******* blame you.
 
Sarge said:
I think what everyone here is missing is that Davis has to feel like **** reading this. Knowing that coach is down on him has to make it doubly difficult to get up for games. Coach, if Sean Davis has a bad game against Indy, I ******* blame you.
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If Davis comes out and says there's this guy on the Steeler Nation who points out I'm not very good and It bothers me, okay I promise to keep my mouth shut!

The crux of the problem is posters like Antdrewjosh say hey coach did you see Davis did something, and I reply with a beat down of data. If there less threads about a mediocre at best player with my poster name being called out we would not see the back and forth stuff as often.

So those who are smart who want to avoid thread like this now understand how and since Davis' ego might be bruised you might want to keep it quiet. :)
 
Coach said:
If Davis comes out and says there's this guy on the Steeler Nation who points out I'm not very good and It bothers me, okay I promise to keep my mouth shut!

The crux of the problem is posters like Antdrewjosh say hey coach did you see Davis did something, and I reply with a beat down of data. If there less threads about a mediocre at best player with my poster name being called out we would not see the back and forth stuff as often.

So those who are smart who want to avoid thread like this now understand how and since Davis' ego might be bruised you might want to keep it quiet. :)
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The sad part is you really believe the bullshit you type.
 
antdrewjosh said:
The sad part is you really believe the bullshit you type.
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You can't take a hint. Simply stop having the need to call me out when Davis actually does something and you'll see less replies. DUH.

Davis is mediocre a best. Like I said, if I had the film and the time, I could make Lee Flowers look like a good player too.
 
Coach said:
If Davis comes out and says there's this guy on the Steeler Nation who points out I'm not very good and It bothers me, okay I promise to keep my mouth shut!

The crux of the problem is posters like Antdrewjosh say hey coach did you see Davis did something, and I reply with a beat down of data. If there less threads about a mediocre at best player with my poster name being called out we would not see the back and forth stuff as often.

So those who are smart who want to avoid thread like this now understand how and since Davis' ego might be bruised you might want to keep it quiet. :)
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getting sarcasm isn't your best attribute is it?
 
Coach said:
You can't take a hint. Simply stop having the need to call me out when Davis actually does something and you'll see less replies. DUH.

Davis is mediocre a best. Like I said, if I had the film and the time, I could make Lee Flowers look like a good player too.
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When he actually does something lol..Davis has done "something" every week for awhile now. But i forgot only interceptions sacks fit your criteria..or basically any stat that you can read off of Espn gamecast.
 
I loved Leethon Flowers and Myron Bell, because those guys could lay the wood, and they did. They were good at covering in a slower league, but both would be exposed in coverage in this lightspeed NFL secondary. Sean is faster, rangier, has a quicker twitch, and is made for this league. He's excelling, and he won Steeler's ROY last year. It doesn't matter if people on this board can't see his value and ability. I can, his coaches can, and he is making plays. There are plenty of ways to make plays in this league that aren't INTs. Tackling, he's up there, he's getting a command and comfort of his game, and he's making plays.

You can't compare Sean with Hayden. I personally think we're ****** if anyone in the secondary gets hurt, minus Mitchell. Sean has the speed and size to run with athletic TEs. That's why he was drafted. And now that he has experience, He's shutting down all pros like Kelce. Kid can ball.
 
Cope said:
I loved Leethon Flowers and Myron Bell, because those guys could lay the wood, and they did. They were good at covering in a slower league, but both would be exposed in coverage in this lightspeed NFL secondary. Sean is faster, rangier, has a quicker twitch, and is made for this league. He's excelling, and he won Steeler's ROY last year. It doesn't matter if people on this board can't see his value and ability. I can, his coaches can, and he is making plays. There are plenty of ways to make plays in this league that aren't INTs. Tackling, he's up there, he's getting a command and comfort of his game, and he's making plays.

You can't compare Sean with Hayden. I personally think we're ****** if anyone in the secondary gets hurt, minus Mitchell. Sean has the speed and size to run with athletic TEs. That's why he was drafted. And now that he has experience, He's shutting down all pros like Kelce. Kid can ball.
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Well its only one person. Lol. Just the one.
 
Coach said:
If Davis comes out and says there's this guy on the Steeler Nation who points out I'm not very good and It bothers me, okay I promise to keep my mouth shut!

The crux of the problem is posters like Antdrewjosh say hey coach did you see Davis did something, and I reply with a beat down of data. If there less threads about a mediocre at best player with my poster name being called out we would not see the back and forth stuff as often.

So those who are smart who want to avoid thread like this now understand how and since Davis' ego might be bruised you might want to keep it quiet. :)
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LOL. A beat down of data. Is that an actual thing?

I am now smart enough to know how to avoid a thread like this. Thanks for the tip.
 
antdrewjosh said:
When he actually does something lol..Davis has done "something" every week for awhile now. But i forgot only interceptions sacks fit your criteria..or basically any stat that you can read off of Espn gamecast.
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I'll hear from you when he gets an interception. We have certainly played some bad QB's this year. Any day now....until then just 1 INT in 24 games and counting....

#No ball skills Davis. #Let his man get open and tackle him Davis. #Give up first downs Davis. #Fewest splash plays Davis. # Poorly rated by third parties Davis.
 
Coach said:
I'll hear from you when he gets an interception. We have certainly played some bad QB's this year. Any day now....until then just 1 INT in 24 games and counting....

#No ball skills Davis. #Let his man get open and tackle him Davis. #Give up first downs Davis. #Fewest splash plays Davis. # Poorly rated by third parties Davis.
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I think you're confusing Davis with Mitchell...
 
Cope said:
I think you're confusing Davis with Mitchell...
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One's over paid, the other not very good.

Our safeties are not good. I wish we had one who could play cover three well, or make more plays on the ball. With solid corners and a good pass rush, our safeties should be making more impactful plays. We only see some every now and then. Outside of TE, this is the weakest until on the team, wouldn't you agree?
 
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