Holmes Mendenhall Rogers all missed games for disciplinary reasons
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Holmes Mendenhall Rogers all missed games for disciplinary reasons
Thanks, man. Just haven't been all that fired up about anything really to post much. I'm hoping this team can play consistently and get me into it more, but to be honest, they are a little hard to like at times. With the drama all the time.
I have to admit the anthem thing kinda turned me off, too. I think they have the right to protest, regardless of how misguided it may be. I think they are conflating police brutality with the national anthem and it just doesn't make sense. Protest in front of a police station or something. But damn, how brave is it to make a stand but then to get all hurt when you get criticized for it? That's part of it, I would think.
I just hope the Steelers can get on a roll here and make me think just about football again.
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Those are all used in a back up role. I think he was meaning in a starting capacity. The point being that Cohwer never had a Fanchise starting QB until Ben. Tomlin has had a franchise QB his entire career here. Thus the argument of so little with so much.
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Lol i love this arguement. What effort was made to get one?
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RELAX ant, we all know where you stand. There are several ways these two coaches can be argued and that argument has played out here on many occasions. I know both sides by heart and frankly could care less either way. DEAD horse spanking.
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Go back and look at the drafts under Cowher, there were no franchise QBs to be had, unless you count Pennington.
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Trades werent possible?? Any effort at all
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KC went out and got Montana. Traded a first round pick to get him. We used our pick on Deon Figures. I'd make that trade all day. I can guarantee one thing, Montana would never have lost that game to SD. Joe might have played 3-4 years here. I'd take that for Figures all day, and twice on Sunday. One thing I noticed looking at the drafts back then, is how in many ways they echoed the drafts under Tomlin. The drafts in the mid 90s were pretty awful, which is why the team struggled as the Noll picks got old, just as Tomlin's teams struggled when Cowher's guys got old, and the drafting fell off. Then, all of a sudden, in the late 90s, the drafts began to produce, and by 2001, the team became strong again. The same thing seems to have happened again, as the recent drafts have been very productive, and the team has reasserted itself. The biggest difference is that because we have a good qb, the fall off wasn't as steep as it was under Cowher. 8-8, instead of 6-10, 7-9.
Montana is on record for saying he wanted to play here. The burg was his first choice.. Cowher choice Neil
Obviously we didn't want him, not just Cowher. He was like 35, not like he was 25. Maybe we didn't have what they wanted either.
How many franchise QBs in their primes are traded? We never drafted high under Cowher to get a qb and there were none to trade for
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How many franchise QBs in their primes are traded? We never drafted high under Cowher to get a qb and there were none to trade for
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Of course at the same time I can't fault Figures for getting shot.
And for how Neil fell apart in that SB his INT ratio was low. I think they thought they could win with him, that he was good enough. He did afterall get the team IN the SB.
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Tom Brady and John Elway say hi. And it was Cowher who said no.
And every team for 5 rounds says hi.
Brady was blind luck considering his college course, I can't fault any team for not drafting him.
And I don't believe Cowher was the head coach when Elway was drafted....
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Wasnt referring to where they were drafted but their age both won Super Bowls after 35
And to be totally honest i do understand the decision to go with Neil. Drafted, younger I get that. And im definitely using hindsight to criticize.
Oh the age thing seems like experience at the position does QBs well even up to present day. I have no problem going after a older QB say like as a free agent, provided there is no big injury risk.
Yeah hindsight has to factor in. As he was turning into a solid system QB or it seemed so at the time.
That SB changed that way of thinking quickly............
Its just knowing that Neil wasnt good enough or if he was we dont know since he bolted like a ***** to the Jets. Just imagining Joe with that Running game and defense. Making the big throws when we needed
Tom Brady was a fluke every coach passed on him, Elway has nothing to do with Cowher. How do we know Cowher said no? Maybe we weren't offering what KC was.
Neil did seem perfect for the era, run the ball play D and up until the super bowl Neil had one of the lowest int% of all time
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We ALL liked Odonnel until that superbowl dive he took
Again read again wasnt mentioning Elway or Brady because of availability but their age when they won lwoB repuSs. You said Montana was 35. I said both those guys won after 35. As for Cowher i read it. Believe it was a Post Gazette article i posted here. Not in the mood to search for it. Cowher cited the investment made in Neil as a second round pick. Didnt want to stall his development.
Dont forget Rich Gannon for the raiders. He was very successful in the 2nd half of his career. Went to Superbowl. Played till like age 39
I don't remember Cowher taking away the ping pong tables from the players. Just sayin'.
Actually Joe was 37 when traded to KC, and it had been 3 seasons since he started in SF, 1990 was his last season started there and his rating was in the 80's and completed 61% of his passes, I'm pretty sure the majority thought he was done. His two years in KC his average rating was 85 and comp% was 60.
Again there were no franchise QBs to be had in the 90's
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Again there were no franchise QBs to be had in the 90's
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