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So now what are the excuses?

Why does it have to bee all Ben or Tomlin or all anyone. **** I blame Munchak today as much as anyone and he is a good coach. Our Line is making Ben look worse than he is. Hecan’t move quite like he used to and they are not giving him time consistently. Some is scheme some is injury some is Ben still sometimes does not make a quick read to dump. I disagree about not being competitive today. Take away the tips and see where this game ends up. Defense had failures but mainly because the offense kept falling short or giving up points.

Agreed. Hubbard looked like a damn turnstile today.
 
Tomlin said back to the lab...

Well he needs to find a new lab, because lab sucks. He makes no adjustments. He only offers cool sound bites.

This team is so predictable it's not even funny.
 
Tomlins idiocy was on full display today.
 
Ben did check out. But it's due to the players he has. Their attitude. Spoiled. Me bullshit. I believe that what has Ben in his slump.

Bell with his bigger then the team attitude. Brown who is quickly becoming a serious diva. He's getting pushed around out on the field and he can't handle it.

I just don't understand why they continue to run Bell into no space and he goes sideways. Every other RB in the league goes forward, but Bell has dance shoes on.
 
Can't say it enough, Tomlin has to go. We should already have Ben's predecessor. He should be watching learning from Ben each time he comes off the bench. I don't have the confidence in the front office as I did with Dan in there and sure not the same as when Art was there. If Ben stays next year and we get a too QB it won't be enough time for a new kid to learn from Ben. But lets just start with Tomlin. Find a replacement first.

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What game plan overcomes your franoise qb throwing 5 ints, even when 1 was a good d play by the jags and the other pick 6 was a deflection right into the defenders hands?

You guys are ******* high. Flaccid has a day like that and there are 2 or 3 threads talking about how he suckss.
 
What game plan overcomes your franoise qb throwing 5 ints, even when 1 was a good d play by the jags and the other pick 6 was a deflection right into the defenders hands?

You guys are ******* high. Flaccid has a day like that and there are 2 or 3 threads talking about how he suckss.

This O hasn't played well all year. SO sure Ben gets a huge portion of the blame today, Haley gets the blame for having a 21st rated O and substandard O play overall all year.
 
We better figure something out quick......Chiefs next week. ☠️
 
What game plan overcomes your franoise qb throwing 5 ints, even when 1 was a good d play by the jags and the other pick 6 was a deflection right into the defenders hands?

You guys are ******* high. Flaccid has a day like that and there are 2 or 3 threads talking about how he suckss.
A game plan that involves more running against #32, less passing against #1 and fewer empty backfield sets in any case. I mean, he didn't have 5 ints until he had 5 ints. In other words, it wasn't preordained and the idiotic game plan contributed to the bottom line stats.

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A game plan that involves more running against #32, less passing against #1 and fewer empty backfield sets in any case. I mean, he didn't have 5 ints until he had 5 ints. In other words, it wasn't preordained and the idiotic game plan contributed to the bottom line stats.

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Lmao and if we had kept running and not having success it would of been the same people saying we didnt let Ben get into a rhythm.
 
Ben did check out. But it's due to the players he has. Their attitude. Spoiled. Me bullshit. I believe that what has Ben in his slump.

Do you remember Ben his first few years? To the point of cracking his skull on the pavement because he wouldn't listen to his head coach about wearing a helmet.

I doubt it's that, because he was the ultimate "me" player back then, and he knows the team knows it.
 
Do you remember Ben his first few years? To the point of cracking his skull on the pavement because he wouldn't listen to his head coach about wearing a helmet.

I doubt it's that, because he was the ultimate "me" player back then, and he knows the team knows it.

Stop bringing up old **** elf
 
Cant even use the we didnt go no huddle excuse this time either
 
My post was sarcastic
 
A game plan that involves more running against #32, less passing against #1 and fewer empty backfield sets in any case. I mean, he didn't have 5 ints until he had 5 ints. In other words, it wasn't preordained and the idiotic game plan contributed to the bottom line stats.

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When he threw the first pick 6, we were winning the game. When he threw the second, we were in a hole. We were going to have to throw. Neither pick 6 was Ben's fault. The other 3? You HAVE to be able to trust your team leader and franchise qb to not throw 3 more picks. If you can't, you aren't going anywhere, anyway.
 
Ben has not been accurate all season. His passes have been high and sometimes these WRs can't jump to the damn moon.
 
Lmao and if we had kept running and not having success it would of been the same people saying we didnt let Ben get into a rhythm.
I dunno. Seems to me going pass heavy vs the #1 pass defense / #32 run defense, without even disguising it i.e., all the empty backfield sets is the kind of hubris that at the very least puts the QB in an adverse position where the potential for success is somewhat compromised. Is that point really so Lmao?

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I dunno. Seems to me going pass heavy vs the #1 pass defense / #32 run defense, without even disguising it i.e., all the empty backfield sets is the kind of hubris that at the very least puts the QB in an adverse position where the potential for success is somewhat compromised. Is that point really so Lmao?

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I agree, hate the empty backfield set, no disgue, they know it's a pass

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I dunno. Seems to me going pass heavy vs the #1 pass defense / #32 run defense, without even disguising it i.e., all the empty backfield sets is the kind of hubris that at the very least puts the QB in an adverse position where the potential for success is somewhat compromised. Is that point really so Lmao?

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Becsuse we are a pass firsr team and that is what Ben likes. It gives him easier reads. The defense cant disguise what they are doing when spread out. At least that is the premise
 
The run worked? When? Bell is just as bad as Ben, maybe worse. He's mediocre on the ground and **** in the pass game. Bryant is bad too. The line play is bad. The only one worth a **** on O is Brown. The plays are bad, the execution is worse. The offense is junk, top to bottom.
 
Ben has not been accurate all season. His passes have been high and sometimes these WRs can't jump to the damn moon.

There were a few passes like that today.
Brown had a nice catch in the 4th qtr that looked too high
 
There were a few passes like that today.
Brown had a nice catch in the 4th qtr that looked too high

30th

completion percentage

30th

not

good

enough
 
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