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Anyone catch how well the Chiefs took Gronk away?

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Pardon me I wasn't really listening to the announcers to know if they mentioned this very often, but Gronk wasn't much of a factor last night. I believe they had Berry covering him for most of his routes. The Chiefs defense did a lot of things well - rushing Br*dy, covering the short crossers, etc. But an underrated aspect of their plan last night was taking away Gronk. We've NEVER been able to achieve this since he's been in the league. Hopefully Butler was taking notes and uses Shazier in much the way the Chiefs used Berry last night.
 
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OK yinz have me convinced give me Berry please.:smiley_abyz:
 
This is going to be Wilcox's area. You will have an extra safety that can matchup to a Gronk. Wilcox is the physical guy you want in this matchup. Granted Mitchell and Davis are healthy. You can bet your *** that Butler and Tomlin made some notes from last nights game
 
AggieSteel said:
Pardon me I wasn't really listening to the announcers to know if they mentioned this very often, but Gronk wasn't much of a factor last night. I believe they had Berry covering him for most of his routes. The Chiefs defense did a lot of things well - rushing Br*dy, covering the short crossers, etc. But an underrated aspect of their plan last night was taking away Gronk. We've NEVER been able to achieve this since he's been in the league. Hopefully Butler was taking notes and uses Shazier in much the way the Chiefs used Berry last night.
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Berry is one of the best in the game, We do not have a player like that to cover Gronk.
 
Having him in Fantasy football (sucks to take pats but it's business) he looked pretty slow and I don't think he's going to be very dominant this year. Not like he was able to get open even after Berry got hurt.
 
They played man on Gronk and when he caught the ball it was because he was too large for Berry to handle. That's ok because those are great plays and no defense for them. Otherwise they took Gronk away, reminded me of how we used to have Polamalu shadow some TEs
 
Hines57 said:
They played man on Gronk and when he caught the ball it was because he was too large for Berry to handle. That's ok because those are great plays and no defense for them. Otherwise they took Gronk away, reminded me of how we used to have Polamalu shadow some TEs
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Exactly, Berry was on him like a hobo on a ham sammich and Gronk was crying after every play. I take it he doesn't like it when defenders are physical with him, checking him at the line, and pushing him off course. . He's big and is used to getting his way out there, so a little man in his pocket is distracting.

I don't know if we have anybody that physical with the quickness to keep up with him.
 
Blitzburgh said:
Having him in Fantasy football (sucks to take pats but it's business) he looked pretty slow and I don't think he's going to be very dominant this year. Not like he was able to get open even after Berry got hurt.
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I agree, but i think he got banged up on that diving td attempt. He got up slow, kinda backed off teammates And did a half *** spike.
 
Great coaching job . He was blanketed all night and you could see Gronk's frustration.
 
AggieSteel said:
We've NEVER been able to achieve this since he's been in the league. Hopefully Butler was taking notes and uses Shazier in much the way the Chiefs used Berry last night.
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We limited him in 2011 with Cortez Allen manned up on him. Granted, he caught 7 balls for 94 yards but zero TDs and most importantly, a loss for those cheating ********. I sometimes wonder if the coaching staff forgot about that game or something.
 
SteelChip said:
Exactly, Berry was on him like a hobo on a ham sammich and Gronk was crying after every play. I take it he doesn't like it when defenders are physical with him, checking him at the line, and pushing him off course. . He's big and is used to getting his way out there, so a little man in his pocket is distracting.

I don't know if we have anybody that physical with the quickness to keep up with him.
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Thought back on this, it was v Terrell Owens that we used Troy to play him man to man for a complete game. He locked him down. We need this same type of defense against Gronk. Much easier said than done. We need someone with size and speed who can run with Gronk.
 
To me Davis is the best match up on him with a single high safety over the top.

The key is almost 3-levels of coverage on Gronk. You can jam him at the line with a physical linebacker like Shazier that is strong enough to have hand-to-hand combat with a 270 lbs. guy and still get back into an underneath zone coverage (to cover those pesky little crossing plays New England likes to run). Then you hand him off to the under-safety like Davis for man-to-man coverage. Someone that is long and can run. And then just in case those two levels don't work you still have a deep safety that can bracket him over the top and come downhill on any play into the seems.

To me that's the way you play them. And your outside corners have to be good enough to play multiple schemes (and disguise them)..... either bump man, off-man, tight zone or off-zone. You have to make your coverages as confusing as possible up until the last second because New England's entire pass offense is predicated on Brady AND the receiver reading the same thing and deciding the route at the line of scrimmage. You are not just playing against Brady and his mind, you have to mess with the receivers' heads too. There can be no "keys" to your coverage based on where you middle linebackers are or where you strong safety sits. No keys.
 
Who do we have that can do what Justin Houston did last night? KC is a very talented team, just because they beat the *pats, doesn't mean every team can.

KC played all NE receivers physically, not just Gronk. Anyone coming across the middle got crushed. Amandola got stuck, Hogan got stuck... we can do that playing 7-10 yard cushions. KC has better coaching that put a plan together to attack NE's strengths, we'll just keep doing the same **** and hoping for a different result.

And even if we beat them when they come to Heinz, it won't mean **** until we beat them in the playoffs.
 
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Stoney said:
Who do we have that can do what Justin Houston did last night? KC is a very talented team, just because they beat the *pats, doesn't mean every team can.
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we are working on it
 
I think Shazier is capable of it if he can ever stay on the field and out of the ice bath long enough. He's one hell of an athlete, just hasn't been durable enough.
 
If we show up with the 10 yard cushion again, Brady will kill us again.
 
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