Trump is no longer in control. That's all I'm going to say.
N. Korea again
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Trump is no longer in control. That's all I'm going to say.
We knew you were a sick ****. This just adds to it. If you think any of us is hoping for war...well as I said, you're sick.
Some here on the CONservative side have openly wished for civil war.
Don't know how long you've been here but it seems like you don't pay attention.
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I have been here forever. Pay attention. And do not recall this
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While our unhinged Commander-in-Chief turns red in the face and rants and raves, here is a good read on military preparedness. It has to be said it's unbelievable that eight months into his presidency Trump has already triggered a potential nuclear crisis. The worse fears about him being elected have literally begun playing out, right before our eyes.
Trump's Tweets Aside, Here's What to Watch on North Korea Crisis
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Trump's Tweets Aside, Here's What to Watch on North Korea Crisis
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Really.... so Trump created Kim? He allowed this guy to get ahold of nukes as well as create a disdain for the United States? Trump inherited this mess from the previous administration and all of the democratic senators and congressmen saying he is unhinged is laughable. I know he probably just needs a hug and jobs. It is not like North Korea put out a unprovoked video of New York in ruins after a nuclear attack in 2013 for their citizens to enjoy. They want us wiped of the earth and we finally have someone willing to explain what the consequences will be unfortunately. Sadly this should have never been allowed to get to this point of escalation by the prior president
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The latest from that goofy little **** -
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-warns-north-korea-threats-kim-jong-regret/story?id=49165805
He's really asking for it.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-warns-north-korea-threats-kim-jong-regret/story?id=49165805
He's really asking for it.
Feel sorry for the good people of South Korea...
They will be the unfortunate causalities of any warfare..
They will be the unfortunate causalities of any warfare..
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You can rest assured the US military's level of readiness to thwart any moves from North Korea has remained unchanged over the past two decades or so, regardless of who's been in the White House.
Kim says he needs nukes to defend NK against us. Whether that's bullshit or he really believes it, I don't know. We could ignore him and issue a statement saying we have no interest in attacking NK but what he wants is attention and if we do that he'll lob more missiles in the general direction of Japan, wake up Godzilla, and that never ends well. If we nuke him then SK gets hit with fallout too and we don't get any more Hyundais. Best course of action IMO is to lean on China to either sit on Kim or take him out.
I don't know that China would even want NK but if I'm Trump I tell China that they can annex NK, take over the whole country, and we won't object.
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Wouldn't a better endgame be to unify the two Korea's under one flag? South Korea is a relatively stable, free market, democratic country, part of the Western alliance and a strong US ally. Handing NK to China wouldn't resolve conflict on the Korean peninsula. With a stable government and free-market principles, a democratic Korea could be a strong ally to Japan, thus lending balance to the region and also push back on China a little. Similar to German reunification after the Cold War, I'd much prefer to see a unified Korea. Those people deserve as much.
No, I think NK is so backward that unification would suck SK dry. The Norks are isolated and primitive and Communism is all they know, so I think being taken over by China would be a better fit. Unlike East Germany, the Norks don't know WTF is going on in the rest of the world. I don't think China would go for unification but they might buy in to being given a country for free.
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I'm not sure what you mean by thwarting any moves from NK, but of course readiness in general has definitely changed over the last two decades, and is relatively low right now. Silly dismissive statements like this one you made just enforce the opinion that liberals don't deal in facts.
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Guam Governor on Trump’s ‘Fire and Fury’: ‘I Want a President That Says That’
Guam is suddenly the focus of intense media attention after North Korea ostentatiously threatened to attack it with missiles. The governor of Guam, Eddie Calvo, backed President Donald Trump’s warning to rain “fire and fury” on North Korea
“As far as I’m concerned, as an American citizen, I want a president that says that if any nation such as North Korea attacks Guam, attacks Honolulu, attacks the West Coast, that they will be met with hell and fury, I think it’s important to be very strong. At the same time, be calm”
“I’ve had enough briefings with the military that there is a multi-layered defense, starting from Korea and Japan, as well as in the Western Pacific, as well as our terrestrial assets here in Guam with the THAAD missile defense system, that American communities such as Guam, as well as other American communities, will be protected”
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/...or-responds-threat-nuclear-war-lindsey-graham
Guam Governor on Trump’s ‘Fire and Fury’: ‘I Want a President That Says That’
Guam is suddenly the focus of intense media attention after North Korea ostentatiously threatened to attack it with missiles. The governor of Guam, Eddie Calvo, backed President Donald Trump’s warning to rain “fire and fury” on North Korea
“As far as I’m concerned, as an American citizen, I want a president that says that if any nation such as North Korea attacks Guam, attacks Honolulu, attacks the West Coast, that they will be met with hell and fury, I think it’s important to be very strong. At the same time, be calm”
“I’ve had enough briefings with the military that there is a multi-layered defense, starting from Korea and Japan, as well as in the Western Pacific, as well as our terrestrial assets here in Guam with the THAAD missile defense system, that American communities such as Guam, as well as other American communities, will be protected”
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/...or-responds-threat-nuclear-war-lindsey-graham
Been here longer than you and I don't see any on my side openly wishing for Civil War. Have seen countless warn it's coming. I only expect a sick **** like you to twist predictions like that into a wish.
Top U.S. General Readies Military Plan for North Korea, but Pushes for Diplomacy
Arriving in Asia, Gen. Joe Dunford says he is prepared for war, but supporting Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s efforts
OSAN AIR BASE, South Korea—The Pentagon’s top military officer said here Sunday the focus remains on finding a diplomatic solution to the North Korea missile crisis, even as the military works up viable options in case they become necessary.
Amid heated rhetoric between President Donald Trump and North Korea’s rogue leader, Kim Jong Un, the military is quietly supporting Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s effort to use diplomatic and economic pressure to avert war.
“As a military leader, I have to make sure that the president does have viable military options in the event that the diplomatic and economic pressurization campaign fails,” said Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford in his first public remarks since the crisis escalated with North Korea’s launch of a second intercontinental ballistic missile late last month.
“Even as we develop those options, we are mindful of the consequences of executing those options, and that makes us have more of a sense of urgency to make sure that we’re doing everything we absolutely can to support Secretary Tillerson’s current path,” he said.
Gen. Dunford began a scheduled swing through the region Sunday, with a stop here to meet with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, along with newly appointed defense officials and commanders. Gen. Dunford leaves Monday for Beijing and will also visit Tokyo this week, defense officials said.
He declined to provide an assessment of the current situation until he had met with officials on the ground. But while the U.S. military in the region is prepared for war, it isn’t necessarily preparing for war, other military officials said.
No additional forces have been sent to the Korean Peninsula as a result of the crisis, and there has been no new deployment of ships or submarines. The more than 28,000 U.S. troops stationed in South Korea haven't been put on special alert, military officials said. And, the fact that Gen. Dunford and his wife, Ellyn, are traveling in the region this week reinforces the sense that there is no imminent threat of war.
Arriving in Asia, Gen. Joe Dunford says he is prepared for war, but supporting Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s efforts
OSAN AIR BASE, South Korea—The Pentagon’s top military officer said here Sunday the focus remains on finding a diplomatic solution to the North Korea missile crisis, even as the military works up viable options in case they become necessary.
Amid heated rhetoric between President Donald Trump and North Korea’s rogue leader, Kim Jong Un, the military is quietly supporting Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s effort to use diplomatic and economic pressure to avert war.
“As a military leader, I have to make sure that the president does have viable military options in the event that the diplomatic and economic pressurization campaign fails,” said Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford in his first public remarks since the crisis escalated with North Korea’s launch of a second intercontinental ballistic missile late last month.
“Even as we develop those options, we are mindful of the consequences of executing those options, and that makes us have more of a sense of urgency to make sure that we’re doing everything we absolutely can to support Secretary Tillerson’s current path,” he said.
Gen. Dunford began a scheduled swing through the region Sunday, with a stop here to meet with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, along with newly appointed defense officials and commanders. Gen. Dunford leaves Monday for Beijing and will also visit Tokyo this week, defense officials said.
He declined to provide an assessment of the current situation until he had met with officials on the ground. But while the U.S. military in the region is prepared for war, it isn’t necessarily preparing for war, other military officials said.
No additional forces have been sent to the Korean Peninsula as a result of the crisis, and there has been no new deployment of ships or submarines. The more than 28,000 U.S. troops stationed in South Korea haven't been put on special alert, military officials said. And, the fact that Gen. Dunford and his wife, Ellyn, are traveling in the region this week reinforces the sense that there is no imminent threat of war.
Chilling satellite images suggest North Korea is about to launch missiles from submarines as nuke crisis with US escalates
NEW satellite images of North Korea bases appear to show the volatile state is overhauling its missile sub fleet as tension rises during the nuclear stand-off between Kim Jong-un and the US.
The pictures show activity at a test site which is scarily similar to preparations before the Stalinist nation’s last test of their Pukguksong-1 submarine-launched ballistic missile in August 2016.
The images emerged after Trump warned North Korea that the US military was “locked and loaded” as Pyongyang accused the U.S. leader of driving the Korean peninsula to the brink of nuclear war.
The Pentagon said the United States and South Korea would proceed as planned with a joint military exercise in 10 days, an action sure to further antagonise North Korea.
North Korean watcher Joseph Bermudez of 38North, which monitors military activity in the Stalinist country, has spotted changes on the boat and the facility it is docked in.
He said: “Recent commercial satellite imagery reveals several developments suggesting that North Korea may be accelerating the development of the sea-based leg of its nuclear forces.
“Since the July report, netting or tarps have been suspended above both the fore and aft decks of the submarine obscuring any activity taking place beneath them.
“The only other time this was seen was during May-July 2016 and prior to the failed July 9, 2016 Pukguksong-1 test.”
Long-range ballistic missiles (ISBMs), and their submarine-housed counterparts (SLBMs), are rockets which can carry nuclear bombs and would be capable of striking the west coast of the US including cities such as Los Angeles and Seattle.
However, North Korea is not believed to have developed the technical capacity to mount a nuclear warhead on an SLBM.
NEW satellite images of North Korea bases appear to show the volatile state is overhauling its missile sub fleet as tension rises during the nuclear stand-off between Kim Jong-un and the US.
The pictures show activity at a test site which is scarily similar to preparations before the Stalinist nation’s last test of their Pukguksong-1 submarine-launched ballistic missile in August 2016.
The images emerged after Trump warned North Korea that the US military was “locked and loaded” as Pyongyang accused the U.S. leader of driving the Korean peninsula to the brink of nuclear war.
The Pentagon said the United States and South Korea would proceed as planned with a joint military exercise in 10 days, an action sure to further antagonise North Korea.
North Korean watcher Joseph Bermudez of 38North, which monitors military activity in the Stalinist country, has spotted changes on the boat and the facility it is docked in.
He said: “Recent commercial satellite imagery reveals several developments suggesting that North Korea may be accelerating the development of the sea-based leg of its nuclear forces.
“Since the July report, netting or tarps have been suspended above both the fore and aft decks of the submarine obscuring any activity taking place beneath them.
“The only other time this was seen was during May-July 2016 and prior to the failed July 9, 2016 Pukguksong-1 test.”
Long-range ballistic missiles (ISBMs), and their submarine-housed counterparts (SLBMs), are rockets which can carry nuclear bombs and would be capable of striking the west coast of the US including cities such as Los Angeles and Seattle.
However, North Korea is not believed to have developed the technical capacity to mount a nuclear warhead on an SLBM.
I'll post this again.
I would be shocked if that area of the world isn't surrounded by our subs
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...ne-could-completely-destroy-north-korea-20377
In the event of a nuclear exchange, a boomer would likely receive its firing orders via Very Low Frequency radio transmission. While a submarine’s missiles are not pretargeted, like those in in fixed silos, they can be assigned coordinates quite rapidly. The first eight Ohio-class boats were originally built to launch the Trident I C4 ballistic missile—an advanced version of the earlier Poseidon SLBM. However, by now all of the boomers are armed with the superior Trident II D5 ballistic missile, which has 50 percent greater range and is capable of very accurate strikes, which could enable them to precisely target military installations as a first-strike weapon.
Ohio-class submarines also come armed with four twenty-one-inch tubes that can launch Mark 48 torpedoes. However, these are intended primarily for self-defense—a ballistic missile submarine’s job isn’t to hunt enemy ships and submarines, but to lie as low and quiet as possible to deny adversaries any means of tracking their movements. The submarine’s nuclear reactor gives it virtually unlimited underwater endurance and the ability to maintain cruising speeds of twenty knots (twenty-three miles per hour) while producing very little noise.
I would be shocked if that area of the world isn't surrounded by our subs
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...ne-could-completely-destroy-north-korea-20377
In the event of a nuclear exchange, a boomer would likely receive its firing orders via Very Low Frequency radio transmission. While a submarine’s missiles are not pretargeted, like those in in fixed silos, they can be assigned coordinates quite rapidly. The first eight Ohio-class boats were originally built to launch the Trident I C4 ballistic missile—an advanced version of the earlier Poseidon SLBM. However, by now all of the boomers are armed with the superior Trident II D5 ballistic missile, which has 50 percent greater range and is capable of very accurate strikes, which could enable them to precisely target military installations as a first-strike weapon.
Ohio-class submarines also come armed with four twenty-one-inch tubes that can launch Mark 48 torpedoes. However, these are intended primarily for self-defense—a ballistic missile submarine’s job isn’t to hunt enemy ships and submarines, but to lie as low and quiet as possible to deny adversaries any means of tracking their movements. The submarine’s nuclear reactor gives it virtually unlimited underwater endurance and the ability to maintain cruising speeds of twenty knots (twenty-three miles per hour) while producing very little noise.
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And where there are missile boats there are fast attack subs. The Norks would have a trailer as soon as they left harbor and be sunk as soon as they made any aggressive moves.
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So much for that
North Korea calls off Guam threat
https://www.axios.com/north-korea-calls-off-guam-threat-2473027328.html
North Korean state media reports that Kim Jong Un is backing off from his threat to launch missiles at Guam, a U.S. territory, per the WSJ. He decided to call it off after he visited a military command post and looked over a military plan his senior officers presented him.
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Maxine Waters said we should be giving Kim Jong-Un what he wants!
North Korea calls off Guam threat
https://www.axios.com/north-korea-calls-off-guam-threat-2473027328.html
North Korean state media reports that Kim Jong Un is backing off from his threat to launch missiles at Guam, a U.S. territory, per the WSJ. He decided to call it off after he visited a military command post and looked over a military plan his senior officers presented him.
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Maxine Waters said we should be giving Kim Jong-Un what he wants!
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TRUMP WINS AGAIN!
China hands Trump a win on North Korea crisis
In a matter of a days, tensions with North Korea appear to have calmed down considerably.
Most of that is thanks to China making a series of positive moves and statements.
This is shaping up to be a big win for the Trump administration.
To be specific, the big move came Monday as China agreed to ban imports of North Korean iron, lead, and coal as part of new U.N. sanctions on Pyongyang. That's hitting Kim Jon Un's regime where it hurts
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/in-north-korea-crisis-china-hands-trump-a-win-commentary.html
China hands Trump a win on North Korea crisis
In a matter of a days, tensions with North Korea appear to have calmed down considerably.
Most of that is thanks to China making a series of positive moves and statements.
This is shaping up to be a big win for the Trump administration.
To be specific, the big move came Monday as China agreed to ban imports of North Korean iron, lead, and coal as part of new U.N. sanctions on Pyongyang. That's hitting Kim Jon Un's regime where it hurts
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/in-north-korea-crisis-china-hands-trump-a-win-commentary.html
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Great news, hope this sticks and the situation continues to de-escalate. Nice to see UN sanctions still mean something.
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Hmmm, just when we thought things were simmering down. Is this a regularly scheduled joint exercise or something else?
U.S. & South Korea Launch Massive Military Drills on Korean Peninsula
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8...h_massive_military_drills_on_korean_peninsula
U.S. & South Korea Launch Massive Military Drills on Korean Peninsula
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8...h_massive_military_drills_on_korean_peninsula
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Hmmm, just when we thought things were simmering down. Is this a regularly scheduled joint exercise or something else?
U.S. & South Korea Launch Massive Military Drills on Korean Peninsula
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8...h_massive_military_drills_on_korean_peninsula
They do these drills regularly, but I'm sure this is a show of solidarity against North Korea. Now if North Korea stages military drills with China -- then I'd be concerned.