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Bell is gone next year.
That site is a disgrace. Straight steal other people's information.
No doubt. 400 touches next season then let him walk.
whats the weather have to do with this? one day it is too hot to walk the dogs, the other it's raining
damn it all
and it gives Conner a closer look-see as well as the rest of the RB depth
a win win situation also factoring a less of a chance of Bell getting a preseason injury.........
If we offered him $12 million, Bell is completely crazy for not taking it. And, I would be shocked. His reasoning is, let's say, retarded. He is sticking up for the other RB's in the league. WTF! That is beyond ridiculous. Most teams are using 2 backs. RB's just aren't worth what they used to be, especially one with injury issues every year and drug issues on his resume. I do think this is probably his last year in Pittsburgh. I wouldn't franchise him but put a tag on him so we get something in return. Someone will overpay and offer him $15 million, almost double what the next back in the league gets.
$10 million was all I would have offered but if they went up to $12 million, he is a complete fool.
$10 million was all I would have offered but if they went up to $12 million, he is a complete fool.
I understand getting all you can get, but the majority of the teams will not overpay when a RB's window is 5-7 years. If Shady is getting $8M a year, $10-12M/yr is pretty darn good. Good for Bell if he can set the higher bar for RBs, but the guaranteed money over a 4-5 year deal is a lot more than the one-year franchise tag. If he gets a serious injury, he may regret taking the tag. Hope it works out for both sides. When he is on the field, he is a difference maker.
What makes Brown or Ben more valuable then Bell? And im talking strictly on the field. The team did not try to use Bells injury or suspensions against him during the negotiations from reports. So what makes either of them more valuable. The starting point of an contract had to be 26 million because he is guaranteed that if franchised this year and next. I dont see it as being over paid. He is getting his just value its just sad he may not get it here in Pittsburgh
Whether In Pittsburgh Or Not, Le’Veon Bell Will Reset Running Back Market
BY MATTHEW MARCZI JULY 18, 2017 AT 06:20 AM
Make no mistake about it: running back Le’Veon Bell is more likely than not going to sign a huge contract next offseason—potentially the biggest contract ever signed by a running back in the history of the game. The question now becomes whether or not it will be the Pittsburgh Steelers who sign him to that contract.
As Dave Bryan wrote yesterday, Bell is viewing his contract situation as a referendum on the running back market, which has by all reasonable accounts been deflated over the course of the past several years. In the very recent past, a running back such as himself would have easily been a first-round pick.
We have already seen the position pick up over the course of the past two years with multiple running backs being taken in the first round, even in the top five, and these young players, such as Ezekiel Elliott, do have Bell in particular to thank for helping to reset the value of the position by showing what they can do.
That is why Bell is going to be the running back who resets the market after the Adrian Peterson and Jamaal Charles deals went by the wayside. In a way, it is almost fitting that his disproportionate franchise tag value, which he will now play under this year, is a remnant of that lost market that he is in all likelihood going to renew.
And he will not be alone. David Johnson will follow behind him. Elliott will come eventually as well, of course, but in between could be Todd Gurley, depending on how his next two seasons go. The Rams did try to address the offensive line after he had a down sophomore season.
Teams moved away from the all-purpose back for a bit—some even believed that the position was dead—but Bell showed that it was alive and well, and others are following in his footsteps. But he is rightfully going to be the first to be paid in that new market that he largely created on his own.
The running back position may never again be peer to the top wide receivers, even though they touch the ball far more often, but the top young running backs of today are determined to get their recognition, and the way things are going, there is no reason to believe that teams will not be forced to acquiesce to their pricing demands.
This is not an ideal development for the Steelers, of course, who area either going to have to pay top-dollar-plus to keep him next year, or simply lose him, but I do think that it is the right step for the position as a whole, globally speaking.
It is especially pertinent for the running back position, which has such a notoriously short shelf life, to see the extremely lucrative second contract, because for most, it will be their only opportunity. With his injury history, one could easily wonder if Bell will be included in that category.
BY MATTHEW MARCZI JULY 18, 2017 AT 06:20 AM
Make no mistake about it: running back Le’Veon Bell is more likely than not going to sign a huge contract next offseason—potentially the biggest contract ever signed by a running back in the history of the game. The question now becomes whether or not it will be the Pittsburgh Steelers who sign him to that contract.
As Dave Bryan wrote yesterday, Bell is viewing his contract situation as a referendum on the running back market, which has by all reasonable accounts been deflated over the course of the past several years. In the very recent past, a running back such as himself would have easily been a first-round pick.
We have already seen the position pick up over the course of the past two years with multiple running backs being taken in the first round, even in the top five, and these young players, such as Ezekiel Elliott, do have Bell in particular to thank for helping to reset the value of the position by showing what they can do.
That is why Bell is going to be the running back who resets the market after the Adrian Peterson and Jamaal Charles deals went by the wayside. In a way, it is almost fitting that his disproportionate franchise tag value, which he will now play under this year, is a remnant of that lost market that he is in all likelihood going to renew.
And he will not be alone. David Johnson will follow behind him. Elliott will come eventually as well, of course, but in between could be Todd Gurley, depending on how his next two seasons go. The Rams did try to address the offensive line after he had a down sophomore season.
Teams moved away from the all-purpose back for a bit—some even believed that the position was dead—but Bell showed that it was alive and well, and others are following in his footsteps. But he is rightfully going to be the first to be paid in that new market that he largely created on his own.
The running back position may never again be peer to the top wide receivers, even though they touch the ball far more often, but the top young running backs of today are determined to get their recognition, and the way things are going, there is no reason to believe that teams will not be forced to acquiesce to their pricing demands.
This is not an ideal development for the Steelers, of course, who area either going to have to pay top-dollar-plus to keep him next year, or simply lose him, but I do think that it is the right step for the position as a whole, globally speaking.
It is especially pertinent for the running back position, which has such a notoriously short shelf life, to see the extremely lucrative second contract, because for most, it will be their only opportunity. With his injury history, one could easily wonder if Bell will be included in that category.
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RB's careers are finished at around 5 years - QB's are worth it because they play for a long time - how can anybody even compare the positions?
Run the wheels off him, win a SB, Ben can retire and all you jaggoffs that think franchise QB's are easily replaceable can start singing
Run the wheels off him, win a SB, Ben can retire and all you jaggoffs that think franchise QB's are easily replaceable can start singing
100% agree. He is the best RB in the league that deserves a large raise over the RB normal payouts.
I am supremely confident the Steelers offered him that.
I also think he wants to reset the RB market in general for years to come. Sorry, Steelers FO won't do that...not at their expense.
Love Bell and hope he is here long-term, but I just don't see it. No way we give him the FT next year at 14.5mil.
If that were the case, why not pay him upwards of 13 mil per year on 4 yr deal?
It's a shame. I understand both sides, but lean towards the Steelers FO a little bit on this one. They can only pay Bell so much money.
If he feels it's not enough - oh well. Make a SB run this year and let him walk with a 3rd comp the next year.
I just hope we don't have to take a RB high next year in the draft. We need to be focusing on getting Ben's successor in the 18' draft.
Additionally, a FS is a big need come next offseason.
Clearly he was full of **** when he stated in not so many words,....don't take my rap lyrics seriously. He wants $15M/year.
$15M, uh, I don't think so. Maybe if he has proved he can play one full season. Maybe. He's great when he is in there and useless on the sidelines. Just saying.
Who is talking about career length?? Bell is 25 second contract. I agree a third contract for a RB is iffy.
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All of those years after Bradshaw before we drafted Ben. Ugh. So many seasons that I knew before it even started that we had zero chance at a Superbowl with whomever we had at qb. Some folks have no idea how ****** it may get soon.
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He's nuts. He has about 3 high level years left if he doesn't get injured again or suspended. Has he played a full season yet with playoffs?
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The more I hear and read from Bell, the more relieved I am that he has something financially to play for here this year. Otherwise I could see him mentally and emotionally checking out in about Week 2 of the season. Thankfully he's playing for a huge contract so he'll have to get it done this year. I don't think he would sign a Franchise Tag honestly.
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Take Ben off the field and we do not win. Take AB off the field the last few years and we do not win. Put in Bell's back up and we can still win and we did. Plus, as I said, most teams end up going with 2 RB's. I'd expect the Steelers to head that direction before the end of a 5 year deal for Bell. Huge difference between Bell, AB and Ben.
At least Bell isn't as crazy as Cousins. He turned down $20+ per season. He's a middle of the pack QB.
I will not lie though with his injury past and drug past it is a little annoying seeing him try to milk every cent than he can.
He better hope that greed doesn't come back to bite him in the ***.
He better hope that greed doesn't come back to bite him in the ***.
On Good Morning Football they reported that the Steelers offered more then 12 million. Im comfortable the Steelers did their part. Bell is a special player but there is no position where a rookie can have more of an immediate impact then running back. If Bell walks and Conner isnt the guy it usually just takes a late first rounder.
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Is there?
The Steelers are 33-18 in the past four seasons with Bell in the lineup. They are 11-9 when he doesn’t play.
That record includes a 1-3 record in the playoffs when Bell doesn’t play. They’re 2-1 with him, which includes the handful of carries he got in last year’s AFC Championship loss before leaving with a groin injury. Thats the difference
between Bell and other backs the Steelers dont have to use 2RBs other teams do out of necessity. Bell can do it all so we dont have to use other backs. Other teams need a a RB by committee.
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An impression I get is that when the Cap gets expanded people think the Steelers have more play room to get players. The reality is that expansion of the cap is the NFLs way of instituting a pay increase. Remember when Bens new contract was like whooa. Carr will get 25 percent more and has never played in a playoff game. Kirk Cousins scoffed at 3 or 4 million less and he is an average starter.