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And this is why Pittsburgh fans are so angry...

Absolutely! You'd be naive to think otherwise. To what extent is what I'm not sure of. I'm not sure I care anymore,but the Boston asshats are getting old. I can't even respect them. I at least respected Dallas and San Francisco.

There have been some moments, especially against the pats, that I have questioned the integrity of the game
 
Come on guys, you know we don't have the personnel to do that. *sarcasm*

Tomlin approached and played N.E. scared. Case closed.

We know that, also add to that the fact that Brown in the interview posted in another thread says that Mikey never said anything negative toward him or even seemed to be pissed about the facebook live crap......after Mikey came out in his P.C. acting like he was going to read AB the riot act.....the inmates are running the asylum.

But hey! It's the off season, time to shop for new sunglasses and new clichés.

We have an incompetent, impotent, inadequate, head coach. Case closed.
 
Tomlin approached and played N.E. scared. Case closed.

We know that, also add to that the fact that Brown in the interview posted in another thread says that Mikey never said anything negative toward him or even seemed to be pissed about the facebook live crap......after Mikey came out in his P.C. acting like he was going to read AB the riot act.....the inmates are running the asylum.

But hey! It's the off season, time to shop for new sunglasses and new clichés.

We have an incompetent, impotent, inadequate, head coach. Case closed.

Ouch
 
On the way to work this morning in Los Angeles. New DC for the Rams Wade Phillips said in regards to Super Bowl Sunday & Atlanta's task at hand: "There is no way you will beat Brady & New England playing zone"........

Son of Bum..............
 
On the way to work this morning in Los Angeles. New DC for the Rams Wade Phillips said in regards to Super Bowl Sunday & Atlanta's task at hand: "There is no way you will beat Brady & New England playing zone"........

Son of Bum..............
Hmmmm that's a shocker
 
Brady's advantage is he is so accurate on the short passes he puts the ball where receivers can maximize YAC.
To throw them off game the CB's need to be hitting their man early to put them out of position for YAC and a linebacker
needs to be hitting the TE's. The safeties need to play back to cover anything downfield.
 
Brady's advantage is he is so accurate on the short passes he puts the ball where receivers can maximize YAC.
To throw them off game the CB's need to be hitting their man early to put them out of position for YAC and a linebacker
needs to be hitting the TE's. The safeties need to play back to cover anything downfield.

That's the thing, we KNOW what they do yet we don't come up with a plan to counter it. Just keep playing 10 yards off and Br*dy throws 8 yard passes all day.
Zone defense, fine. Isn't the middle of the field 10 yards from the line of scrimmage someone's goddamn zone???
 
Isn't the middle of the field 10 yards from the line of scrimmage someone's goddamn zone???

That would be Butler's zone, Ron.
 
Zone defense, fine. Isn't the middle of the field 10 yards from the line of scrimmage someone's goddamn zone???

Having watched the last however-many games involving the Patsies and the Steelers, the answer has to be, "No."
 
If the Falcons play a tight D and make Br*dy's day difficult, let alone win the game, Yinzer Nation will go ballistic.
 
If the Falcons play a tight D and make Br*dy's day difficult, let alone win the game, Yinzer Nation will go ballistic.

I've never cheered for another team like I do the Steelers, but the Giants victory over the Pats in their "undefeated" season was the closest I'll ever come. I have a feeling this weekend will be similar with the Falcons.
 
Who's Wig's 2nd favorite team?

Anyone playing the P*ts...
 
Time for the FalCANTS to become the FalCANs!
 
That's the thing, we KNOW what they do yet we don't come up with a plan to counter it. Just keep playing 10 yards off and Br*dy throws 8 yard passes all day.
Zone defense, fine. Isn't the middle of the field 10 yards from the line of scrimmage someone's goddamn zone???

i have no idea why more teams don't just do what the pats do. Run a bunch of quick crossing and pick routes with WRs who are good at RAC. I mean, they changed the rules so you are pretty much not allowed to even hit them. You have to let them catch it or you get flagged for hitting a "defenseless' receiver.

Not every team has a guy like Brady but let's face it, this offense has lots of really easy reads and throws. They motion a guy or spread out so Brady can tell pre snap if it's man or zone and then he knows where he's throwing before the snap. Then it's just pitch and catch.

There is a lot of bad coaching in today's NFL. The Pats just take advantage of coaches who are too stubborn to change or simply don't know any other way. I think part of this is that it seems what is valued most now in coaching is play calling. Media is quick to label a coach a genius if he comes up with a few plays per game that fools the other team and makes a big play. Nevermind if the rest of tye plays are littered with bad blocking or tackling, bad routes, busted coverages, etc. That teaching of fundamentals is no longer consdiered good coaching.

Playcalling, particularly offensive playcalling is one of the easiest things there is. But owners continue to hire these young hit shot coaches who get their face on sportscenter because of 1 or 2 plays in a game they lost by 14. They hire the guy who tells them what they want to hear in interviews.
 
i have no idea why more teams don't just do what the pats do. Run a bunch of quick crossing and pick routes with WRs who are good at RAC. I mean, they changed the rules so you are pretty much not allowed to even hit them. You have to let them catch it or you get flagged for hitting a "defenseless' receiver.

Not every team has a guy like Brady but let's face it, this offense has lots of really easy reads and throws. They motion a guy or spread out so Brady can tell pre snap if it's man or zone and then he knows where he's throwing before the snap. Then it's just pitch and catch.

There is a lot of bad coaching in today's NFL. The Pats just take advantage of coaches who are too stubborn to change or simply don't know any other way. I think part of this is that it seems what is valued most now in coaching is play calling. Media is quick to label a coach a genius if he comes up with a few plays per game that fools the other team and makes a big play. Nevermind if the rest of tye plays are littered with bad blocking or tackling, bad routes, busted coverages, etc. That teaching of fundamentals is no longer consdiered good coaching.

Playcalling, particularly offensive playcalling is one of the easiest things there is. But owners continue to hire these young hit shot coaches who get their face on sportscenter because of 1 or 2 plays in a game they lost by 14. They hire the guy who tells them what they want to hear in interviews.


CMVLT has some pretty good "coach" speak. Maybe that's the key to being a GREAT coach.??? Great post by the way.




Salute the nation
 
i have no idea why more teams don't just do what the pats do. Run a bunch of quick crossing and pick routes with WRs who are good at RAC. I mean, they changed the rules so you are pretty much not allowed to even hit them. You have to let them catch it or you get flagged for hitting a "defenseless' receiver.

Not every team has a guy like Brady but let's face it, this offense has lots of really easy reads and throws. They motion a guy or spread out so Brady can tell pre snap if it's man or zone and then he knows where he's throwing before the snap. Then it's just pitch and catch.

There is a lot of bad coaching in today's NFL. The Pats just take advantage of coaches who are too stubborn to change or simply don't know any other way. I think part of this is that it seems what is valued most now in coaching is play calling. Media is quick to label a coach a genius if he comes up with a few plays per game that fools the other team and makes a big play. Nevermind if the rest of tye plays are littered with bad blocking or tackling, bad routes, busted coverages, etc. That teaching of fundamentals is no longer consdiered good coaching.

Playcalling, particularly offensive playcalling is one of the easiest things there is. But owners continue to hire these young hit shot coaches who get their face on sportscenter because of 1 or 2 plays in a game they lost by 14. They hire the guy who tells them what they want to hear in interviews.

Because not every team can do what the Pats do, and it goes beyond Brady.

Do you remember in the 90s the Steelers seemed to be able to find guys in the draft at OLB that other teams might not consider because the Steelers would one of the few teams running the 3-4? And how it is harder now because other teams have caught up? The Pats are like this. They take guys at positions that other people don't consider, and at this point no one else is catching up.

Their WR core is an example of that. I am sure pure athletically, most teams they match up with have better athletes at WR than the Pats. But they go after guys who while maybe not the best athletes, are pretty damn good, but they have brains. So you put Edlemann, Amendola and Hogan out there and you have 3 guys who will run the right damn route and not get fooled by what the defense throws at them. They will all make the right read. Other teams may have better athletes there, but sure as **** one of the guys will read man or something when it is zone. So we sit here and whine about how can he Steelers lose to these guys all the time when they have better athletes, but the truth is the Steelers may have that, but they just don't have guys who are as football smart as the Pats, and that is the difference.

So part of what I am saying is that it is easy to blame the coaches. Go for it. But there are a lot of dumb players in the NFL. The Pats go for smart players and that is what separates them.
 
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With the above, I am not a draft guy, but I read the draft stuff a lot of you guys post, and it is funny how I always read about the great athletes, or athletic ability is always debated. But never brains. Never how smart they are. Which tells me that most of you guys if you were in the position to run the Steelers, would make many of the same mistakes you ***** about the Steelers making.
 
To point an official stat on how soft the coverage was, based on the trackers that are now in NFL player's pads,

Tom Brady finished the game with only 2.4% of his passes going into tight windows. That's the lowest of any QB this season #NextGenStats https://t.co/mmAsXwFipa
— Matt Harmon (@MattHarmon_BYB) January 23, 2017

Brady was 32 out of 42 so 2.4% means just 1 pass out of 42 was into a tight window. It must have felt like a preseason game for Brady.

Yeah, but...but...but...haven't you read all the "expert" articles saying that the Steelers were "burned" the three mystery times they played man coverage?

1 out of 42. Lowest of the NFL season. What a ******* joke.
 
Yeah, but...but...but...haven't you read all the "expert" articles saying that the Steelers were "burned" the three mystery times they played man coverage?

1 out of 42. Lowest of the NFL season. What a ******* joke.

And when that one happened it was probably just dumb luck that a Steeler defender happened to be there. 1 out of 42 doesn't give me a lot of faith that it happened on purpose.
 
With the above, I am not a draft guy, but I read the draft stuff a lot of you guys post, and it is funny how I always read about the great athletes, or athletic ability is always debated. But never brains. Never how smart they are. Which tells me that most of you guys if you were in the position to run the Steelers, would make many of the same mistakes you ***** about the Steelers making.

Well, smarts are tough to measure these days. We don't have access to wonderlic scores, the interview or the psychological tests that these prospects are also put through.

For all we know, Belichick is just a better interviewer. He knows what to look for.

One thing I notice a lot about Belichick is he loves to give athletes a shot if they played multiple positions (or even multiple sports). I think he really appreciates non-specialization and the ability to improvise and "learn on the fly". He's made successes of lacrosse players and turned WR's into DB's. Edelman was a QB. Some of his offensive lineman are foreign or just learning the game.

Believe me, the athleticism is there, but it's not as defined by height/weight/speed/explosion numbers that we measure at the combine. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Belichick and the Patriots are one of the few voting to change the whole combine setup (unless they feel they have an advantage over the league right now, so why change things).
 
Deljzc, you have very valid points but the ONE question that always comes to my mind when reading this kind of logic is..... "WHY ALL THE CHEATING"....... Clearly the CHEATRIOTS have an advantage. It's probably a combination of the things you said along with the cheating ways. I don't get and won't condon the cheating facet of that organization. Hating them because of winning is one thing but hating them with confirmed cheating is legitamite regardless of how it is spun.




Salute the nation
 
Deljzc, you have very valid points but the ONE question that always comes to my mind when reading this kind of logic is..... "WHY ALL THE CHEATING"....... Clearly the CHEATRIOTS have an advantage. It's probably a combination of the things you said along with the cheating ways. I don't get and won't condon the cheating facet of that organization. Hating them because of winning is one thing but hating them with confirmed cheating is legitamite regardless of how it is spun.




Salute the nation

I'm not the right person to talk about the cheating part. I'm not nearly as mad or think it mattered as much as many fans here do. And I think it was much more widespread around the league than people think and New England (like almost everything we talk about) just did it better.

And I think deflategate was just a witch hunt bullshit from start to finish.

But that's me.
 
I'm not the right person to talk about the cheating part. I'm not nearly as mad or think it mattered as much as many fans here do. And I think it was much more widespread around the league than people think and New England (like almost everything we talk about) just did it better.

And I think deflategate was just a witch hunt bullshit from start to finish.

But that's me.

Spygate wasn't a witch hunt. And even up to present time people know that radio sets are compromised at their stadium.

So it is this, if they are cheating with one thing, it is very logical to think they are cheating at two things.

Then you add in they never have down years. Even the best of the best in every sport has down years.


Yeah you can think as you want. But I know if it looks and smells like ****,

it's ****.
 
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