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Chick with impossible to pronounce last name says in the post game interview that she talked to Tomlin and at the start of the 4th he told the offense "If they wanted this game they had to go out and get it!"

You're ******' kiddin me, right Mike?

Where was the "go out and get it" for the first three quarters? I swear sometimes the guy just needs to be smacked upside the head. Maybe use THAT speech in the tunnel heading out BEFORE THE ******* GAME Mike.

Just a thought.
 
wig said:
Chick with impossible to pronounce last name says in the post game interview that she talked to Tomlin and at the start of the 4th he told the offense "If they wanted this game they had to go out and get it!"

You're ******' kiddin me, right Mike?

Where was the "go out and get it" for the first three quarters? I swear sometimes the guy just needs to be smacked upside the head. Maybe use THAT speech in the tunnel heading out BEFORE THE ******* GAME Mike.

Just a thought.
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Sure did work though didn't it. Those discussions with sideline reporters are almost as important as post game press conference's in evaluating coaching skills.
 
A lot of people loved Cowher, he was a rah rah guy. No difference here.
 
I guess I interpreted the comment as Tomlin and Haley saying "We're abandoning the previous plan of running the **** out of Bell, make something amazing happen like you do!"

Immediately the offense went spread, no huddle and Bell was essentially a decoy while Ben picked the Ravens apart. We need Bell, but we can't keep pounding the **** out of him into the middle of stacked lines for 30+ snaps a game. That is my completely non-professional assessment.
 
We won the game, so hard to criticize, but the only thing I questioned was heading into halftime he said no adjustments need to be made??? Just like the first game, the offense we ran in the 4th quarter tore them up with ease, why so reluctant.
 
wig said:
I guess I interpreted the comment as Tomlin and Haley saying "We're abandoning the previous plan of running the **** out of Bell, make something amazing happen like you do!"

Immediately the offense went spread, no huddle and Bell was essentially a decoy while Ben picked the Ravens apart. We need Bell, but we can't keep pounding the **** out of him into the middle of stacked lines for 30+ snaps a game. That is my completely non-professional assessment.
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Bell had a 26 yard and a 13 yard rush on the final drive.
 
CoolieMan said:
if Mike has to give them a pep talk to get them going, they should get on with their life's work




I would think his comments would have been given to tell the offense that the game was not over yet, it was right there for them to go and take...
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Agreed. Playing in the NFL is motivation enough. Playing for the guy next to you is motivation. Being a Steeler is motivation. If any of us were in those shoes. I think a great pride has to be had to be at that level
 
Yes, predominantly out of a spread offense, giving him room in the middle. His TD run came off a cutback that was designed into the middle of the Ravens defense and it was (shockingly) clogged up.

Bell cut it back and went outside. caught a blocker and cut back in for the TD.

The TD pass to Bell was on a broken play. (Ben had Rogers early but didn't pull the trigger. Rogers would have had to beat a man one on one to get into the end zone anyway, although Bell had to beat half the Ravens defense as it was. As you saw, Ben rolled right, waited... waited... waited some more and finally dumped off to Bell who made something happen.

The last TD, Bell didn't touch the ball once.

And I'm not talking about nitpicking or motivation. I'm talking about Tomlin and Haley doing the stupid "punch the Ravens in the mouth gameplan for 3 ******* quarters while the Ravens kicked the Steelers in the teeth. While I'm not normally on the Spike "5 wide *******" bandwagon, sometimes you have to gameplan against the weaknesses of the teams you face. I can't comprehend why Haley and Tomlin seem to take such pride in shoving **** in division rivals faces for spite. Regardless of whether or not it's working.
 
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Ben had a lot of underneath routes open all game. I think it was James who was open underneath, where Ben nearly ignored him and hit him last second. The Ravens secondary is suspect without a doubt. So yeah I do agree that Tomlin and Haley need to attack their opponents weaknesses. But in their defense, Bell did have a solid game
 
Coryea said:
We won the game, so hard to criticize, but the only thing I questioned was heading into halftime he said no adjustments need to be made??? Just like the first game, the offense we ran in the 4th quarter tore them up with ease, why so reluctant.
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The game plan was working OK, there were some issues that needed to be cleaned up.

Bell only ran the ball 20 times in the game and had a 6.1 ypc average (13 rushes for 5.2 ypc at the half). This is against the D that was either 1 or 2 in the league against the rush. At the half the Steelers were winning. Doesn't seem to be a bad game plan. If Ben doesn't throw 2 INT's deep in their own end of the field, that game isn't close.
 
The running game worked all day.

Ben threw two picks - both on 1st and 10, deep in Steelers territory.

I get that throwing the ball 50 times seems like an option when Ben is as good as he was in the 4th quarter, but let's not forget that the TD to make the score 20-17 was fueled by two crucial runs by Bell, moving the Steelers from their own 10 to midfield.
 
wig said:
Chick with impossible to pronounce last name says in the post game interview that she talked to Tomlin and at the start of the 4th he told the offense "If they wanted this game they had to go out and get it!"

You're ******' kiddin me, right Mike?

Where was the "go out and get it" for the first three quarters? I swear sometimes the guy just needs to be smacked upside the head. Maybe use THAT speech in the tunnel heading out BEFORE THE ******* GAME Mike.

Just a thought.
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The only thing that pissed me off is when the sideline reporter said Tomlin told her they didn't have to make half time adjustments. WTF. It looked like they didn't make any adjustments until the 4th quarter and part of me thinks it wasn't Haley or Tomlin but BEN who decided to go win the ******* game.
 
Steeltime said:
The running game worked all day.

Ben threw two picks - both on 1st and 10, deep in Steelers territory.

I get that throwing the ball 50 times seems like an option when Ben is as good as he was in the 4th quarter, but let's not forget that the TD to make the score 20-17 was fueled by two crucial runs by Bell, moving the Steelers from their own 10 to midfield.
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I was going to say this same thing. Of all the games to call out the playcalling, I didn't feel there were too many drives or plays I would've called differently. Maybe a little more play action but that's about it.

Bell was getting no less than 4-5 yards at a minimum every time he touched the ball so it's hard to say we shouldn't have given it to him as much.

Seems like the reason we were in a hole early was because of lack of execution (mainly the 2 picks at our end of the field) and not lack of playcalling. And I'm far from a Tomlin homer.
 
pretty sure no coach tells any sideline reporter the exact terms used in the locker room or precisely what is discussed.
 
Wait .. wait. TWO DAYS ... You waited TWO DAYS AFTER the win to post a thread saying that Tomlin/Haley almost waited too long to go no huddle?
Not immediately after the win. Not the next day.... TWO DAYS

The irony is giving me a headache.

Edit: It occurs to me that your original intent was to complain about the timing of an "inspirational speech", not the timing of going to the up tempo no huddle.

That does not make my headache go away.
 
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That's the one super positive about Bell. He's damn near money in the bank to get at least 4 yards, regardless of coverage at the L.O.S.

He never breaks the big 50+ yard play, but he WILL get you somewhere in the zone of 5 to 10. You can damn near bet the bank on it.
 
It wasn't me Buckeye. Ben made the call in the muddle-huddle. I was standing on the sideline chewing gum.
 
Once more... if you want to throw the ball, the QB has to get in a rhythm and it cant just be on obvious passing downs... 9 passes in the first half is not a good gameplan especially when, after the first drive, the holes weren't there for Bell.
The steelers under Tomlin religiously play it conservative until the fourth vs that team. Then they open it up and either win or keep things close. The ravens came out expecting a pass heavy attack... running Bell early was the smart play, but after they drew up to the line to stop him, that is when you spread them out and gash them both ways.

The NFL logic is to keep it close and to go for the win late vs good teams... the Ravens really aren't a good team this season....
 
ark steel said:
The game plan was working OK, there were some issues that needed to be cleaned up.

Bell only ran the ball 20 times in the game and had a 6.1 ypc average (13 rushes for 5.2 ypc at the half). This is against the D that was either 1 or 2 in the league against the rush. At the half the Steelers were winning. Doesn't seem to be a bad game plan. If Ben doesn't throw 2 INT's deep in their own end of the field, that game isn't close.
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I think Coryea is talking about the first 3 quarters we came out with an extra lineman a couple of TE's or sometimes a fullback. Mainly with 1 WR and Bell it seemed. In the 4th quarter we spread them out. Bell still got his yards rushing but the passing game also opened up. So why the wait to open it up?
 
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