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Bradshaw on MT

I appreciate Terry's contribution to the Steelers, as well and he's allowed to have his opinion, but it's an ignorant statement, no matter how true or untrue it is. The word "cheerleader" is where he goes too far.
 
wig said:
But not cool. Not cool at all.



Not THIS was awesome. Holmgren and the Seahawks doing the Chinese Fire Drill and wasting all that time in the SB, letting the play clock run down to like 5 or 6 seconds because they were so disorganized and then, just when they got their **** together - Cowher calls the T.O.

Utter perfection.
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Wrong Super Bowl and team.
 
antdrewjosh said:
I wouldn't expect anything else or less from you.. he was asked a question and he answered it. And did it with grace by saying he isn't a great coach..his resume is not finished..but he felt it was disrespectful and gave a Bradshaw a nice little jab. Well done

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You're missing the point. Bradshaw as a media guy can jab back and might. And he's got some following. Then what? Tomlin isn't focusing on football, Bradshaw is in his head.

How is that helping his team? He didn't need to say anything. Now he's down to the same level, arguing with one of our best-known players of all time.

Tomlin did a similar mistake bit@hing about the refs. Never do that, it doesn't help your team. Possibly the opposite.
 
Steeltime said:
You are correct in your comments about the clock bleeding down while the Rats had the ball. You are also correct that Tomlin insists on keeping at least 1 timeout for his offense - though the offensive team can stop the clock by stepping out of bounds or with an incomplete pass, while the only way the defense can stop the clock is with a timeout.

I also saw the clock grinding down and knew that with their 2 TO's remaining, the Rats had enough time to run 8-10 plays. The clock was not their enemy at that point - the yardage was.

It would have been good strategy to use one of the TO's on defense, to keep 1:50 on the clock for the offense.

Oh, and it's also a good idea not to have to blow a timeout after a long-gainer on offense, simply because the team takes forever getting down the field for the next play and the play clock runs out. Ben using that TO after Rogers' big gain was not optimal.
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Thank you! At least someone gets it.

Coolie should be around shortly to tell you you're just hating on Tomlin.
 
Coach said:
You're missing the point. Bradshaw as a media guy can jab back and might. And he's got some following. Then what? Tomlin isn't focusing on football, Bradshaw is in his head.

How is that helping his team? He didn't need to say anything. Now he's down to the same level, arguing with one of our best-known players of all time.

Tomlin did a similar mistake bit@hing about the refs. Never do that, it doesn't help your team. Possibly the opposite.
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Just stop...he was asked a question he answered it.

You don't know what Tomlin is focused on or what's in his head. Why do you constantly try to talk about things you couldn't possibly know??

Oh by the way since you always claim Tomlin does nothing X and O related Starkey posted an article giving some details on that matter care to discuss that

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Steel G said:
Terry always was a head case, but he is entitled to his opinion. I don't think Tomlin is great either. At times, he's good. And others he is dreadfully brain dead.
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I agree - Bradshaw was always a blockhead, so I don't really pay attention to anything he says.
 
antdrewjosh said:
Just stop...he was asked a question he answered it.

You don't know what Tomlin is focused on or what's in his head. Why do you constantly try to talk about things you couldn't possibly know??

Oh by the way since you always claim Tomlin does nothing X and O related Starkey posted an article giving some details on that matter care to discuss that

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Judging by the response it bothered Tomlin. The media, in general, handles Tomlin with kid gloves. So Tomlin grew up a Cowboy fan. Suppose Tomlin was the head coach of say Tampa Bay and said that.

Be honest, would you defend Terry then?

By replying back, now it's a distraction.

I'll check out Starkey's article.
 
Coach said:
Judging by the response it bothered Tomlin. The media, in general, handles Tomlin with kid gloves. So Tomlin grew up a Cowboy fan. Suppose Tomlin was the head coach of say Tampa Bay and said that.

Be honest, would you defend Terry then?

By replying back, now it's a distraction.

I'll check out Starkey's article.
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It should have most everyone agrees it was disrespectful. Not sure what him supposedly being the head coach of Tampa has to do with anything?? Again the question was brought to him he answered it. Didn't spend his whole press conference on it.. Asked and answered. Having no comment would of just kept it going. He ended it.

Starkey article is posted a couple of pages back

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antdrewjosh said:
It should have most everyone agrees it was disrespectful. Not sure what him supposedly being the head coach of Tampa has to do with anything?? Again the question was brought to him he answered it. Didn't spend his whole press conference on it.. Asked and answered. Having no comment would of just kept it going. He ended it.

Starkey article is posted a couple of pages back

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Judging by his reply, he thought about it. He should have said I'm focus on football not talk and be done with it.

I was saying it Tomlin wasn't a Steeler and Bradshaw said the exact tame thing, you can Tomlin... I think.
 
Coach said:
Judging by his reply, he thought about it. He should have said I'm focus on football not talk and be done with it.

I was saying it Tomlin wasn't a Steeler and Bradshaw said the exact tame thing, you can Tomlin... I think.
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So because he didn't do what you thought he should do he is wrong. Got it.

Bradshaw comments were disrespectful no matter who Tomlin is coaching for. Know why?? ? Because if you are not in the building, if you never seen the man everyday do his job, if you haven't taken the time to find out if he brings more to the table then what your are claiming your opinion is disrespectful and irresponsible.. especially in the light that Terry is in position to see all those things if he chose. Pretty sure he could stop by the Steelers facility and find out just what Tomlin does if he wanted.
 
antdrewjosh said:
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...rgh-steelers-great-coach/stories/201612270044

Joe Starkey: Terry Bradshaw couldn't be more wrong about Steelers coach Mike Tomlin

December 26, 2016 11:12 PM

By Joe Starkey / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Thomas “Hollywood” Henderson, an old Dallas Cowboys linebacker, once said Terry Bradshaw “couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him a ‘c’ and an ‘a’.”

Given his asinine take on Mike Tomlin, I’m not sure Bradshaw could pull it off even if you threw in the ‘t.’

What a bumbling fool. But before we get to the silliest football conversation you will ever hear — thank you, FS1 — let’s put one of Bradshaw’s remarks to the test in the wake of Tomlin’s Steelers clinching their second AFC North Division title in the past three years.

“He’s really a great cheerleader guy,” Bradshaw said, in mock praise, on the show “Speak For Yourself.” “I don’t know what he does.”

OK, we’ll spell it out for you, Terry.

First and foremost, Tomlin W-I-N-S.

He T-E-A-C-H-E-S.

He helps devise G-A-M-E P-L-A-N-S.

He lets assistants D-O T-H-E-I-R J-O-B-S, which is always the mark of a secure L-E-A-D-E-R.

He has a direct hand in personnel acquisitions (we can learn those words next week, Terry). He M-O-T-I-V-A-T-E-S, for sure, and he E-D-U-C-A-T-E-S.

Every Friday, for example, a bunch of defensive players visit with Tomlin for a post-practice strategy session. It used to be just the defensive backs. Others soon joined. They sometimes talk for more than an hour, cornerback Ross Cockrell explained after the dramatic win Sunday.

“Since I was 7 and started football, I’ve never been around a coach who talks football like that, little tips, game-planning, strategy, everything,” Cockrell said. “He gives you all the insight you could want. Much more than a ‘cheerleader.’*“

“We learn a lot [during the Friday sessions] — what the coaches are thinking, understanding certain calls,” linebacker Ryan Shazier said. “[Tomlin] knows the game so well. It’s almost like he’s too football-smart. He’s very calm under adverse situations.”

One would expect such sentiment coming from the home team’s locker room, of course. Who’s going to say something bad about their coach? But these weren’t just platitudes. They were passionate endorsements.

“If you watch him, he spends hours upon hours in his room — or as he calls it, the hole — and he’s a real student of the game,” guard Ramon Foster said. “Come spend a week with him. See how it goes down. Then you make an opinion about him. But to say [what Bradshaw said] is ludicrous.”

Or just look at the facts. Tomlin in 10 years has won 102 games. And two AFC championships. And a Super Bowl. And as we sit here today, only two other teams — Green Bay Packers pending — have made the playoffs three consecutive years (New England, Seattle).

One time in Tomlin’s 159 regular-season starts have the Steelers gone into a game eliminated from playoff contention (Week 17, 2012). One time. He presided over a total rebuild of a decrepit defense and did not suffer a losing year. Twice he made the playoffs when his quarterback missed a full quarter of the season.

This year, Tomlin was without maybe the best player in the league (Le’Veon Bell) for three games, lost his two best defensive linemen, was 4-5 and still won the division as the Steelers ride a six-game winning streak — their longest in 12 years — into the playoffs. The three-year playoff streak is the franchise’s longest since a six-year run in the early 1990s.

Is he a “great” coach? Depends on your definition of great. Is there a great coach in the league right now besides Bill Belichick? I just know Tomlin’s pretty damn good by any sane measurement. Yet we have Bradshaw and Jason Whitlock insinuating that he is merely a cheerleading Rooney puppet.

And I say this knowing full well that Bradshaw often makes no sense. In the recent documentary on Chuck Noll, for example, he said, “I don’t know why [Noll] drafted me. I never was his kind of guy. I’m cows and horses and dogs. He was wine and Russian literature and stuff I have no clue.”

Right, so a coach is supposed to draft a player based on common interests. Good. That was about the level of insight displayed Friday on the FS1 panel. After Bradshaw said he doesn’t think Tomlin is a great coach “at all,” biting off the “at all,” Cris Carter asked Bradshaw if he thought Bill Cowher was a great coach.

“Yeah … Bill was,” Bradshaw said, thus giving every card-carrying Cowher-ite license to rip just a little more on Tomlin. “I have more identity with Cowher than I do Tomlin. His teams were tough. Tomlin came in from Minnesota, and I didn’t know anything about him, so maybe it’s unfair for me to make the comparison.”

Wait.*What?

Up stepped Whitlock: “I happen to agree with Terry.”

Thanks, Jason.

Are there legit criticisms of Tomlin? Of course. He loses to bad teams too often. Some of his key draft picks in combination with general manager Kevin Colbert have flopped. His clock management is often questionable (can you imagine the outcry if the Steelers had run out of time Sunday?), and one playoff win in five years isn’t enough.

But dry stretches aren’t abnormal. Cowher missed the playoffs three years in a row. Noll made the playoffs once in his final seven years. Other coaches tied long term to great quarterbacks (Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rodgers, Sean Payton with Drew Brees, Tony Dungy with Peyton Manning, to name three) have maxed out at one Super Bowl victory.

In a bottom-line league, Tomlin wins. His team is resilient. It has fought back from major adversity this season and from large deficits the past two weeks.

“He has his fingerprints all over this team,” defensive end Cam Heyward said. “Those comments were just reckless. They were stupid and didn’t need to be said. I hope this win reminds everybody how good of a coach we have.”

I would like to think so, too. But we both know better.

Joe Starkey: jstarkey@post-gazette.com and Twitter @joestarkey1. Joe Starkey can be heard on the “Starkey and Mueller” show weekdays from 2-6 p.m. on 93.7 The Fan.



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Nice read.
 
antdrewjosh said:
I wouldn't expect anything else or less from you.. he was asked a question and he answered it. And did it with grace by saying he isn't a great coach..his resume is not finished..but he felt it was disrespectful and gave a Bradshaw a nice little jab. Well done
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I thought MT responded well. Remember, Bradshaw is a media guy and hasn't been a Steeler for 33 years.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
I thought MT responded well. Remember, Bradshaw is a media guy and hasn't been a Steeler for 33 years.
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Like I said what makes Terry's comments so bad is if he wanted the see or know what Tomlin does he could ask or come see better then most media because he played for the damn team.. SMH

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antdrewjosh said:
So because he didn't do what you thought he should do he is wrong. Got it.

Bradshaw comments were disrespectful no matter who Tomlin is coaching for. Know why?? ? Because if you are not in the building, if you never seen the man everyday do his job, if you haven't taken the time to find out if he brings more to the table then what your are claiming your opinion is disrespectful and irresponsible.. especially in the light that Terry is in position to see all those things if he chose. Pretty sure he could stop by the Steelers facility and find out just what Tomlin does if he wanted.
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It's just ridiculous to call an opinion about a coach disrespectful unless offered by someone who works with them, or otherwise spends time in the building and watches them work. So I guess a grounds keeper or janitor can have an opinion that is not disrespectful. This whole disrespect thing has just gotten out of hand.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
It's just ridiculous to call an opinion about a coach disrespectful unless offered by someone who works with them, or otherwise spends time in the building and watches them work. So I guess a grounds keeper or janitor can have an opinion that is not disrespectful. This whole disrespect thing has just gotten out of hand.
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Tomlin sucks

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CharlesDavenport said:
It's just ridiculous to call an opinion about a coach disrespectful unless offered by someone who works with them, or otherwise spends time in the building and watches them work. So I guess a grounds keeper or janitor can have an opinion that is not disrespectful. This whole disrespect thing has just gotten out of hand.
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Joe Greene worked upstairs during Tomlin's tenure. Terry could of easily of gotten the inside scoop from him. Would that of been too hard

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antdrewjosh said:
Joe Greene worked upstairs during Tomlin's tenure. Terry could of easily of gotten the inside scoop from him. Would that of been too hard

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Agreed, but not doing that doesn't make the opinion disrespectful. Anyway, maybe he did talk to him and just isn't going to share it. I think it's disrespectful to make that characterization of Terry without actually being in contact with him while he formed that opinion. :smile:
 
We have went round and round with Tomlin, hell if it wasn't for some ribbing of SV I would have dropped Tomlin from my negativity for the year.

And from time to time sure we all have our discussions on this or that.

But Terry has too many problems with the Steelers for this or that.

I am glad the players stuck up for him.


Shows me he hasn't lost them.

And then when I read some of these other positive reports on Tomlin, I like it.

That emotion I have seen from him on the sideline I like.

The winning streak I like.

I hope my likes for Tomlin continue to grow.

Terry STFU
 
Tomlin trolled Bradshaw so hard today at his presser, Bradshaw may need smelling salts to recover. So proud of coach for putting batty Bradshaw in his place. Now that we got that out of the way, enough with the Steelers infighting, geez. Tomlin has been nothing but 100% class, Bradshaw was way out of line with his remarks. Show some class and professionalism, it's not too late Terry.
 
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CharlesDavenport said:
Agreed, but not doing that doesn't make the opinion disrespectful. Anyway, maybe he did talk to him and just isn't going to share it. I think it's disrespectful to make that characterization of Terry without actually being in contact with him while he formed that opinion. :smile:
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Touche

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