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Game Notes

1) Good to see Ben performing well. One cannot tell he had any type of surgery recently.
2) Another holding call on DeCastro, but overall the offensive line is playing pretty well.
3) Green has arrived in the nick of time to provide a big target behind Brown. No longer concerned about his injury status.
4) Burns is really stabilizing the secondary and showing some great potential.
5) Still amazed at how much pass rush Harrison can generate, and worried about how little Dupree has.
6) Defensive line depth has been impressive, but I'm nonetheless hoping that Hargrave returns quickly.
7) Helluva job by the replacement kicker.
8) Why go for 2 when an extra point puts you up by more than a touchdown and a field goal?

Overall, a nice win. Hopefully, they can keep it going next week on the road.
 
Did they bench Bud and put Jarvis back in late? I thought I saw him.
 
Yeah the continuous square peg round hole of going for 2 decisions are just ridiculous. Go for 2 when it's needed, late in the game, not early in the game to prevent some phantom scoring scenario that you have the entire game to defend. SMH
 
I know it's one game, but Bullock came through for us. I hope he continues to do well.
 
If Williams was available, you give Bell a break. After watching this team blow leads, I don't want the game in the hands of Fitzgerald Toussaint.

Williams was still out but he might be okay to play this week.
 
Our pass rush looked much better and that was without Heyward (IR) and Hargrave (concussion). Green looked good overall but still had 2 drops. If he keeps improving and if one of our other WR's can start to improve, we will be tough to stop. Ben, essentially had Bell and Green to throw to with AB facing minimum of double coverages. That's only three guys needing to be covered. Rogers isn't stepping up (drops and can't get open). Hamilton isn't stepping up (can't consistently get open). And, Coates somehow still has broken fingers after the fact. I don't think he played on offense at all yesterday even though he has been practicing every week. If his fingers are that bad, bench/rest him. Having him on special teams is not helping his fingers and we need him as a WR first. Someone else can risk their fingers on special teams.
 
The problem is, that with the concussion thing going on, the days of blowing players up is over. If he wraps the guy up as he hits him, the flag is never thrown. They don't want players just blowing guys up, especially receivers.

I hear ya but I still don't think it was a dirty play. He blasted him right in the chest and put his *** down. It wasn't a head shot, and he didn't even approach or aim for his head. Like I said, in the heat of that exact moment, Mitchell is playing him as though he's getting the ball. If he backs off and that dude ends up catching it and scoring or whatever, this is an entirely new situation. My opinion is that it was a good pick up by the refs in an otherwise ****** officiated game. Giants fans wanna ***** and moan about how it was called and fail to realize that there was a massive discrepancy in penalties. The penalties were 12-4 and New York should have been called for sooooo much more. Football still is a physical game.
 
Saw LT getting held in plain sight as Jennings runs by for the TD, Harrison getting held at least every other play and AB getting "covered" (DB clutching and grabbing never even looking for the ball, frequently with ball in air)...obviously the standard is the standard and we need the next man up to step up and provide solid above the neck calls from the zebras. NFL officials blow!!!

Yet OBJ is whining about the lack of calls?

We do really need to clean up the stupid penalties which accounted for about 25% ( AB loafing off the field on a punt, TE being covered-illegal formation, false starts, etc.)
And Smith needs to get his ST return units to somehow not get flagged once or twice every time they take the field...

These mental breakdowns will, and have cost us winnable games and our margin of error is too slim to find this trend acceptable.
 
The non officiating game notes I noticed were:

Tomlin again making decisions with his gut, which is 50/50 at best when it comes to decision making. The 2 point conversion to try to go up 13 rather than 12 was stupid as was the calling of the timeout (our first used at the end of first half) with about 1:28 remaining. This TO only gave the opponent the possibility of manipulating the clock and was unnecessary. Keep em in your pocket and don't blow em on first downs while a minute and a half remains when you are in the red zone and have all 3 left.

Again we choose to follow up 1st down gains of 7+ yards with pass, pass on 2nd and short and 3rd and short. This trend is getting predictable as hell. It's ok to establish the run, control the clock and move the sticks in the earlier portions of games. Not advocating to run in all of these situations, but mix it up...it's getting very predictable. At least we weren't bombing it on 3rd and short to broke fingers Coates.

Wanted Bell pulled in the waning moments. I knew it was gonna get chippy and they sure were trying a Vontez impression with that bs on the last drive. If Touissant scares the staff too much to put out there get a competent backup plan. The Tomlin game plan of run Bell until the wheels fall off will ultimately result in the wheels falling off and our O being crippled, left with only AB as a playmaker ( and he won't do **** in a scenario where he is all the opponent has to take away to stop us).

D played great especially the old guys Silverback and LT and the rooks Burns and Davis, YES DAVIS WITH ANOTHER SOLID GAME!!!

Green coming along and taking advantage of the space double teaming AB creates.

Another good day for the OL, may have helped that their DL was dropping like flies out there.

Hats off to Bullock for coming in and getting the job done.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!!!
 
I was the Dumbf--- who said that Davis should have dropped the int on that 4th down.

You're wrong. He should have dropped it.

That being said, I like the guy. I have never been on Coach's hate train. He's young and has moxy. I get it. A seasoned vet would have dropped it. That was my point, for him to grow up. He will. I bet we all like the heck out of him for years. He has that potential, IMO.

I'll follow your views on my assessments when I'm dead. Until then . . . .
 
it was a great return by Davis before Burns was tagged with a push in the back....not Davis's fault. solid play by him...and a big one at a critical moment.
 
I see. I had the sound off and didn't know why the runback was waived off. Now I understand.

Burns had a block in the back and it was returned to half the distance.

Well, ****.
 
I was the Dumbf--- who said that Davis should have dropped the int on that 4th down.

You're wrong. He should have dropped it.

That being said, I like the guy. I have never been on Coach's hate train. He's young and has moxy. I get it. A seasoned vet would have dropped it. That was my point, for him to grow up. He will. I bet we all like the heck out of him for years. He has that potential, IMO.

I'll follow your views on my assessments when I'm dead. Until then . . . .

don't take it personal it wasn't directed at anyone particularly. It was a risk to try dropping it, we all have seen **** happen before and even vets make the catch there , we've seen it against Big Ben this very season.
Look how much range he covered to get to that spot and make the play, that's what I'm staying with, not the rest. Cheers
 
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don't take it personal it wasn't directed at anyone particularly. It was a risk to try dropping it, we all have seen **** happen before and even vets make the catch there , we've seen it against Big Ben this very season.
Look how much range he covered to get to that spot and make the play, that's what I'm staying with, not the rest. Cheers

I'm cool.

It was a minor thing IMO. He did what he did, and it was very exciting. This team has been in an INT drought for years. I like him. He has a lot of talent and seems to be improving quickly. I hope we lock him up for years.

And you're right, he covered a lot of green to do what he did. That's the guy I see playing back there.
 
I can defend the 2pt conversion. We were up by 11 which is already over a TD and FG, but less than 2 TDs. 13pts is also over a TD and FG, but less than 2 TDs. Situationally, these scores are equal. We had a hurt kicker, and the weather is cold. Always go for 2.

On the Davis INT. The correct situational play is knock it down (especially deep). Though I can't fault the guy for wanting to catch his first career INT, and he did have an exciting and productive return. I feel the Burns block wasn't illegal, just a poor judgement call by the ref, since it looked to me that Burns' head was across the tackler on contact.
 
I have seen a lot of idiotic returns. Guys int the ball in the end zone and run it out to the 10.
 
I was the Dumbf--- who said that Davis should have dropped the int on that 4th down.

You're wrong. He should have dropped it.

That being said, I like the guy. I have never been on Coach's hate train. He's young and has moxy. I get it. A seasoned vet would have dropped it. That was my point, for him to grow up. He will. I bet we all like the heck out of him for years. He has that potential, IMO.

I'll follow your views on my assessments when I'm dead. Until then . . . .

I don't think anyone is saying that he SHOULDN'T have dropped it, just that, any criticism for not doing it should be tepid, at most.
 
I can defend the 2pt conversion. We were up by 11 which is already over a TD and FG, but less than 2 TDs.

I disagree. Twelve points is an important number in the NFL, since a touchdown, two-point conversion, and field gold will not make up the deficit. It puts a team ahead by two touchdowns, effectively.

So if you go up by thirteen points, guess how the other team can take a lead? Yep, two touchdowns. Adding the extra point to go from a 12 to 13 point lead, particularly so early in the game, made no sense, at all, in any fashion. The failure rate is now getting substantial on these two-point efforts. Kick the damn extra point, and if at some later time late in the second half a two-point effort is needed, then go for it.
 
Did Bud even play? Didn't notice him at all.

He did, and every time I saw him he was getting zero push nor did he ever get close to Eli. He was worthless. Hopefully, he is just working back into playing shape. He was more worthless than JJ. That bad.
 
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