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Chuck Noll On NFL Network Friday 9:00 pm

One of my favorite Steelers wins was in 84 when we gave the 49ers their only defeat for the season. I always thought it showed noll's genius for not only preparing a team but for game management. He had promoted tony dungy to defensive coordinator, the first black coordinator and the youngest at the time who would go on to be a hall of fame coach himself. Knoll saw the rise of the west coast offense and built a 3-4 defense to defend it and it was really obvious in this game. Though he was the father of the cover two defense that he taught to dungy, against Walsh and the west coast offense he used cover threes and even fours, dropping fast smallish linebackers in and out of zones. The game ended in a Montana pick to save the game. We all know Walsh was a genius but he, and he'd be the first to tell you, was no chuck Noll. He was in nine championships as a player and a coach I think. God bless Pittsburgh, god bless the Steelers, and god bless chuck noll !!! Go steeellllerssss!!!!
 
MTC said:
Those **** are as fake as the pats super bowl wins
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a once friend of mine got married in Altamonte Springs. His soon to be wife's bride groom had some beautiful fake titties. I flirted with her, and end up playing with those titties all night. As they looked mighty niiiiice up close.

Squeezy squeezy.
 
I worked with a girl years ago who got fake titties. She had a good sense of humor, thankfully, or I probably would have gotten fired. I asked to see them. I figured it's kind of like remodeling a room in your house, I argued. When you do that, you bring people over to see the room. I felt that fake titties should be in the same realm. After all, she was remodeling.

I never got to see those titties.
 
slashsteel said:
a once friend of mine got married in Altamonte Springs. His soon to be wife's bride GROOMhad some beautiful fake titties. I flirted with her, and end up playing with those titties all night. As they looked mighty niiiiice up close.

Squeezy squeezy.
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Slash, I always knew you were special, just not to what extent......................... I think you meant Bride's Maid............ LoL



Salute the nation
 
I loved it.

Chuck was a very astute coach. He had a quiet genius about him and knew exactly what his hand was. Outside of football, he was a renaissance man.

You can say Belichick is a bit like Noll, as his teams are always prepared. Both men didn't like the media.

Unlike Belichick , Noll had to work with Bradshaw, a wild stallion type with some learning disabilities. But he did. His advice to Bradshaw in the super bowl to " go deep vs the Rams" , calling play Terry himself didn't like or practice well shows true coaching genius.
 
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Coach said:
I loved it.

Chuck was a very astute coach. He had a quiet genius about him and knew exactly what his hand was. Outside of football, he was a renaissance man.

You can say Belichick is a bit like Noll, as his teams are always prepared and he disdains the media in general as well.

Unlike Belichick , Noll had to work with Bradshaw, a wild stallion type with some learning disabilities. But his did. His advice to Bradshaw in the superbowl to " go deep vs the Rams" , calling play Terry himself didn't like or practice well shows true coaching genius.
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He called that play twice in the 4th quarter. Worked twice for the go ahead TD and set up Franco's last 1 yard TD.

Noll. Was a great coach, a leader of men who demanded respect unlike our current weak coach.
 
Noll had amazing ability to get his team to focus. During the 6 year Superbowl Run, the Steelers were 50-1 vs teams .500 or below.
 
What a great tribute to Coach Noll. After watching it, it gave me a little better understanding of my Dad. He was just like Chuck in regards to being what appeared to be emotionally unavailable but really was quite the opposite. Chuck's varied outside interests away from football were also similar to my dad. Both guys were roughly the same age and were raised in an era of tough love with no frills.
 
POP said:
I thought it was interesting that Mrs. Noll said, in that piece, that after 1980, he told her, "We are old, we don't have high draft picks, and it's going to be pretty rough here for a while." He was fully aware that, after the glory of the 1970's, that they were not going to be very good for a while, and he was right. But as I pointed out previously, the 80's were bad compared to the 70's, but overall, they still had a better decade than many teams do, continuously. They had four playoff seasons, and won two playoff games. Can the Browns make this claim since the late 80's? No, they cannot.

Cowher followed up with 6 straight playoff seasons to start his career, 6 in a row. Not to beat a dead horse, but by the time Noll hung it up, he did re-build the team for Cowher to coach. Among those players Cowher inherited were:

Woodson
Lloyd
Lake
NOD
Foster
Hoge
John Jackson
Love
Dirt
Haselrig
Tunch
Gerald Williams
Hardy Nickerson
Little
DJ
Perry

Not exactly chopped liver.
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Noll was an astute judge of talent. When he took over the team, he warned his wife they were bad.

But Cowher had to replace a legend, and that's not easy. He built up his own team. Most of the players you listed did not play in the super bowl vs Seattle.

First draft. 1992 Searcy, Kirkland, Steed...with Perry in the 8th round. Outstanding.

But the drafts most responsible for putting us back in the super bowl was 1998 Faneca, Ward, Townsend, 2003 Polamalu and Taylor, and of coruse 2004 with Roethlisberger and Starks.

Cowher's biggest problem was he did not have Bradshaw, and only had Ben for two years. Winning with Tomzack, Stewart, Miller and Graham starting at quarterback is something only a very good head coach can do. While Cowher had O'Donnel for a few yearsl, he was taken in free agency. That's on Rooney. With Neil retained in free agency, we likely play in another super bowl as he was solid. Heck, we had an all-time Cowboys team in their prime sweating bullets. Hastings just ran the wrong route, and a very out of position Larry Brown made millions because of it!
 
Only one of the top three or four coaches in NFL history...

What took 'em so long?

(Oh, of course, they had to do shows on jokers like Terrell Owens and Deion Sanders first.)
 
Coach said:
Noll had amazing ability to get his team to focus. During the 6 year Superbowl Run, the Steelers were 50-1 vs teams .500 or below.
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Yea, but that one loss was INEXCUSABLE!!!!!!!! **** him, he sucks...
 
Finally got to watch it thanks to the Steelers posting it on facebook. Very emotional thing to watch. Glad I got to see those great years as a young boy.
 
Cope said:
Yea, but that one loss was INEXCUSABLE!!!!!!!! **** him, he sucks...
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Do you know which team it was? If it was the Browns *#$(#)!

I might watch the doc twice. It was fascinating.
 
I was being facetious. That's how I expect some steelers fans to answer.

They lost to a bad Cincy team in 79. We were their first win of the season in week 7.

They also lost to the 500 Houston Oilers in 74. So that stat is wrong. 2 losses to teams 500 or worse as their final records.
 
I thought it was excellent and tried to capture the truth of the man. Bradshaw perspective was important. As was Mean Joe who clearly had a special place in Noel's books. I really think somewhere Belichik learned a lot from Noll or at least is a lot like him.
 
Coach said:
Noll had amazing ability to get his team to focus. During the 6 year Superbowl Run, the Steelers were 50-1 vs teams .500 or below.
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This comment is just wrong if you watched the documentary and listened to the things Noll said and his players have said. He didn't get them to focus. He taught them how to play and to be successful. He left it to them to focus. That is one of the central points of the whole thing. As Noll said, "If I have to motivate you, I will fire you."

This is one thing I have always found interesting in being an older guy and remembering those years well. In the '70s, if a player screwed up or they had a bad game, I just do not recall blaming the coach, or saying things like we do today, i.e. this loss is on Noll (Tomlin). I don't remember my Dad yelling at the TV anything about Noll not having them prepared or something. He called Bradshaw stupid on occasion, for example, but blame for screwups was on the players.

When did this change take place? I think in the '80s, when coaches like Walsh and Ditka and others became self promoters. If you do that, with it comes more blame when things go wrong. Now we seem to blame the coach more than the players for things.

An epiphany I had last night when watching the documentary is that anyone who professes to be a huge fan of Noll cannot then turn around and say things like, 'It's all on Tomlin." Because Noll knew the simple truth that the responsibility for the game rests overwhelmingly with the players. It is up to them to be motivated and to know what the hell they are doing out there.
 
When players started getting big money and treated like prima dona, and started being me first instead of team first. In the 70's players needed to play to support their family, so it meant more.
 
diver said:
This comment is just wrong if you watched the documentary and listened to the things Noll said and his players have said. He didn't get them to focus. He taught them how to play and to be successful. He left it to them to focus. That is one of the central points of the whole thing. As Noll said, "If I have to motivate you, I will fire you."

This is one thing I have always found interesting in being an older guy and remembering those years well. In the '70s, if a player screwed up or they had a bad game, I just do not recall blaming the coach, or saying things like we do today, i.e. this loss is on Noll (Tomlin). I don't remember my Dad yelling at the TV anything about Noll not having them prepared or something. He called Bradshaw stupid on occasion, for example, but blame for screwups was on the players.

When did this change take place? I think in the '80s, when coaches like Walsh and Ditka and others became self promoters. If you do that, with it comes more blame when things go wrong. Now we seem to blame the coach more than the players for things.

An epiphany I had last night when watching the documentary is that anyone who professes to be a huge fan of Noll cannot then turn around and say things like, 'It's all on Tomlin." Because Noll knew the simple truth that the responsibility for the game rests overwhelmingly with the players. It is up to them to be motivated and to know what the hell they are doing out there.
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You cannot give reputation to the same post twice
 
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You have to unlike the post, give rep, then like it again.
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diver said:
This comment is just wrong if you watched the documentary and listened to the things Noll said and his players have said. He didn't get them to focus. He taught them how to play and to be successful. He left it to them to focus. That is one of the central points of the whole thing. As Noll said, "If I have to motivate you, I will fire you."
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That's called coaching. Call it making them focus, whatever. He taught and expected and they delivered or were gone. Belicheat is the same way. Tomlin is not.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
That's called coaching. Call it making them focus, whatever. He taught and expected and they delivered or were gone. Belicheat is the same way. Tomlin is not.
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I guess. If you want to criticize Tomlin, to me it is fair game to look at the kind of guys he is bringing in. Maybe he needs to do a better job of evaluating if these guys he brings in are internally motivated. Are there lots of guys like that anymore? It is a hell of a different world now than it was in the 70s.

The truth is that unless you are there at practice, you have no damn idea how well he is or is not teaching them. It could be the teaching is fine, but the learning or retention is lacking. I don't know. I do know that if you lthought Noll was a great coach, you just cannot turn around and rip Tomlin by saying things like it is all on Tomlin. It just doesn't jibe with the way Noll conducted his business. And another truth is Tomlin is quite a bit like Noll, whether you like it or not. He really isn't a self-promoter. I don't think he does endorsements, for example. He expects his players to be men, and approach the game like men. The problem for him is that there are less men today. These guys are like 14 year olds.
 
diver said:
I guess. If you want to criticize Tomlin, to me it is fair game to look at the kind of guys he is bringing in. Maybe he needs to do a better job of evaluating if these guys he brings in are internally motivated. Are there lots of guys like that anymore? It is a hell of a different world now than it was in the 70s.

The truth is that unless you are there at practice, you have no damn idea how well he is or is not teaching them. It could be the teaching is fine, but the learning or retention is lacking. I don't know. I do know that if you lthought Noll was a great coach, you just cannot turn around and rip Tomlin by saying things like it is all on Tomlin. It just doesn't jibe with the way Noll conducted his business. And another truth is Tomlin is quite a bit like Noll, whether you like it or not. He really isn't a self-promoter. I don't think he does endorsements, for example. He expects his players to be men, and approach the game like men. The problem for him is that there are less men today. These guys are like 14 year olds.
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You're right. Different times and different attitudes all around.
 
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