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Can we keep winning like this

Cousins crapped in the bed. Did you watch the game? He wasn't accurate. Relative to what he did last year, he underperformed.

I would call Dalton a top 12 QB, just barely, but the wet field and rain limited passing.

Looking ahead, we play two rookie QB's, a backup 2X, a few mediocrities and Luck and Manning

So we should not be giving up 300+ a game against most of them, but if we do it will only underscore my point.

I've never seen a team rank last in sacks, and at the very bottom of pass defense win anything.

so the Steelers defensive plan played no part in Cousin's performance? Yes I watched the game...did you?

Dalton passed plenty but could not find the endzone except once....

as has been said previously...passing yards mean nothing if points, especially TDs are not scored.

Pressure is almost as good as a sack and the defense has provided pressure..which has forced the QBs to throw check down routes or throw inaccurate passes.....
 
LB — A-

Ryan Shazier — when healthy — is unblockable. Against the Bengals, Shazier was all over the field once again, leading the Steelers in tackles with 11 (five solo) and one tackle for a loss.

Much like I am with DeAngelo Williams, I’m running out of superlatives to describe Shazier at this point. “Beast” is a good one for this article.

Outside of Shazier, Lawrence Timmons had a strong game finishing with seven tackles (six solo) while fellow inside linebackers LJ Fort and Tyler Matakevich recorded special teams tackles.

At outside linebacker James Harrison came up with a forced fumble on Tyler Boyd late in the fourth quarter (it might not have been a fumble, but oh well), while Arthur Moats recorded a sack on a scrambling Andy Dalton.

Jarvis Jones also had a strong game off the edge with pressure and almost had an interception in coverage that bounced right off of his numbers.

Anthony Chickillo recorded two tackles in the win and continues to get quite a bit of run as a pass rusher in this 3-4 defense.

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Jarvis didn't have a sack again he sucks SMH. There are factors to determine

Are you trying to be funny? I know this is someone else's thoughts, but come on. Jones did not have a strong game. He blew an easy interception and was nowhere close to sacking the quarterback.

I did not see the defensive snaps counts, but I hope the Steeler limit Jones role even more. He's a non-factor in almost every game,
 
Cousins crapped in the bed. Did you watch the game? He wasn't accurate. Relative to what he did last year, he underperformed.

I would call Dalton a top 12 QB, just barely, but the wet field and rain limited passing.

Looking ahead, we play two rookie QB's, a backup 2X, a few mediocrities and Luck and Manning

So we should not be giving up 300+ a game against most of them, but if we do it will only underscore my point.

I've never seen a team rank last in sacks, and at the very bottom of pass defense win anything.

And you can't give the Steelers any credit for his under performing?? None. The Redskins expected us to blitz. They prepared for it probably all off season. They probably had to throw the whole gameplan out the window. And even though there was no sacks there was pressures and he wasn't able to get comfortable. When do you give the defense some credit.

Also this

Cockrell up to the challenge


HIGHLIGHTS: Week 2 vs Cincinnati Bengals
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CB William Gay came up with the theory, CB Ross Cockrell put it into practice and WR A.J. Green was more than contained in what became a 24-16 victory over the Bengals.

"He's a one-of-a-kind talent in the NFL," Cockrell explained late Sunday afternoon at Heinz Field. "We made an effort, we made a gameplan structured to not let him beat us. We threw the bus at him. We played zone, man, blitz. We threw it all at them to try to limit his touches."

Green wound up with two catches for 38 yards on eight targets.

This was the same Green who caught 12 balls for 180 yards and a touchdown in the Bengals' opener against the Jets and CB Darrelle Revis.


GAME PHOTOS: Week 2 vs. Cincinnati Bengals
This time it was Cockrell following Green from side to side, as Revis had done, per Gay's instruction.

"I talked to William Gay (last week)," Cockrell said. "He's our defensive captain. He told me he wanted me to do this and I just followed his lead."

Cockrell wasn't solely responsible for Green.

He covered other receivers on occasion and often had help on Green.

But Cockrell was nonetheless critical to the Steelers' executing their defensive gameplan in a winning fashion.
"We liked the matchup because of the physical stature but we still did a lot of things schematically to hopefully minimize (Green's) impact on the game," head coach Mike Tomlin explained.

"(Cockrell) did a nice job."


Cockrell appreciated the responsibility that was thrust upon him but wasn't overstating his contributions in relation to those of the group.

"We're the Steelers' defense and I'm proud to be a part of it," he said.

What did you think about Cockrell game sunday?
 
so the Steelers defensive plan played no part in Cousin's performance? Yes I watched the game...did you?

No, not when he's badly missing open guys. If I were to show you all his throws on video, you'd quickly understand Cousins was terrible that night.
 
Are you trying to be funny? I know this is someone else's thoughts, but come on. Jones did not have a strong game. He blew an easy interception and was nowhere close to sacking the quarterback.

I did not see the defensive snaps counts, but I hope the Steeler limit Jones role even more. He's a non-factor in almost every game,

Trying to be funny how..someone thought he had a strong game. It's funny how someone looking at him with out hate or bias can see there more to the game then stats and in his case sacks. Really we are going to harp on a OLB dropping a pass in the rain. Cmon Coach. And that guy wasn't the only person who thought Jones had a strong game. Dale Lolley also mentioned Jones in his report on the game
 
Post Steelers-Cincinnati thoughts
September 18, 2016

Pittsburgh Steelers outside linebacker Jarvis Jones (95) reacts following a missed interception against the Cincinnati Bengals during the first half of an NFL football game in Pittsburgh, Friday, September 18, 2016. (AP Photo/Jared Wickerham)
I didn’t think there would be a lot of ugliness when the Steelers and Bengals teed the ball up today.

But I also didn’t expect the game to look like one between, say, the Steelers and Lions.

That, however, is what Sunday’s 24-16 win by the Steelers over the Bengals looked like. There was no pushing. No shoving. No real jawing going on back and forth.

That was largely a good thing. These two teams just played football.

Maybe the reason for that was because Vontaze Burfict was watching the game from home, or a cave or wherever it is he rests his head each night.

Or maybe the Bengals finally learned that talking tough or playing dirty doesn’t get the job done. The Steelers have made some big hits against the Bengals over the years. Ask any Bengals fan, they’ll give you the laundry list.

But when they give you Keith Rivers, Carson Palmer or any of the other list of players injured by the Steelers over the years, they came on hits that were legal at the time they occurred.

The Bengals are a good team. They don’t need to play that way.

All of that said, neither of these teams looked particularly sharp in this game.

The Steelers didn’t consistently control the line of scrimmage as they did a week ago at Washington and left tackle Alejandro Villanueva had some issues, but they generated enough of a rushing attack to win this game.

In contrast, Cincinnati’s run game was non-existent.


That put a lot of pressure on Andy Dalton, who had his best weapon, A.J. Green, taken away by the Steelers defense.

Ross Cockrell will get a lot of credit for that. And he played well shadowing Green. But he also had a lot of help over the top, though there were times when they were locked up one-on-one where Dalton just didn’t look the way of his best option.

It seems the Steelers had Dalton convinced they were going to double Green all the time. And that wasn’t the case.

The Steelers defense allowed three trips into the red zone. All three ended without the Bengals scoring touchdowns.

That included a first-and-goal situation from the Pittsburgh 1 after two very questionable pass interference penalties.

Ryan Shazier, who’s playing like an All-Pro two games into this season, dropped Jeremy Hill for a 2-yard loss on first down and the Bengals threw incomplete into the end zone on the next two plays.

Third down was an interesting call for the Steelers. They rushed three guys and dropped eight into coverage.

Dalton couldn’t find anyone open and couldn’t find any running room, nearly throwing an interception to Cockrell.

Punter Jordan Berry was the unsung hero of this game for the Steelers.

Berry punted eight times for a 47.1 yard average. But five of his punts were downed inside the 20, with four of those being downed inside the 10.

That left the Bengals, with no running game, a very long field to navigate again and again.

Cincinnati had drives start at its own 9, 3, 8 and 9 thanks to good punts by Berry and good coverage by Pittsburgh’s special teams units.

Mike Tomlin said after the game that the Steelers weren’t perfect in any of the three phases. They certainly weren’t so on offense or defense. But the special teams were pretty darn good.

Jarvis Jones draws a lot of teeth gnashing from Steelers fans. But he’s played well the first two games.

Jones hasn’t recorded a sack - the Steelers have just one in two games - but he’s had some pretty good pressures and the sacks will come.

Everything else Jones has done has been pretty solid.


We saw more of him paired with James Harrison in this one, with Harrison on the right side and Jones on the left.

I like that pairing.

Through two games, by the way, I’m not seeing a lot from Anthony Chickillo in that outside linebacker rotation. But again, it’s early.

Robert Golden is playing a very solid strong safety. In fact, the entire secondary is playing pretty darn well, all things considered.

Yes, the Steelers are allowing yards, but many of them are empty yards at the end of games. The secondary as a whole is doing a nice job. When you allow two touchdowns in two games in today’s NFL, you’re doing something right.

The front is completely slamming the door on the run - the Steelers have given up 101 yards on 30 attempts - but opposing QBs have a 79.2 passer rating.

The Steelers will win a lot of games this season if that keeps up.

It says a lot about this defense that the Steelers won Sunday against a good opponent in a game in which quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was nowhere near as sharp as usual.

How about big Javon Hargrave chasing down Hill from behind on a dumpoff pass?

Yes, Hargrave got called for a horse collar tackle at the end of the play - which was iffy - but that’s an athletic big man.

One of these days, he’ll actually get an opportunity to get on the field for more than 20 plays.

DeAngelo Williams runs hard. And his 32 carries in this game were a career high.

He’s been everything you’d want in a running back in these first two games. But you can bet that he’ll be more than happy to welcome Le’Veon Bell back in two weeks.

Williams has carried the ball 58 times in the first two games and has 10 receptions. That’s 34 touches per game, more than the Steelers even give Bell.

Mike Tomlin seems intent on running the wheels off Williams, who moved into 50th place on the NFL’s all-time rushing list in this game.

He’s also just 10 yards short of 8,000 on the ground in his career.


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Here is Lolley's thoughts
 
No, not when he's badly missing open guys. If I were to show you all his throws on video, you'd quickly understand Cousins was terrible that night.

yes the defense helped made him look bad that night.
 
I've never seen a team rank last in sacks, and at the very bottom of pass defense win anything.

It's after week 2.

Does a team ranking in sacks and yards/game passing matter much, if at all, as of 2 games?
 
Steelers building wall against the run

By Dale Lolley
September 19, 2016

Pittsburgh linebacker James Harrison (92) forces Cincinnati wide receiver Tyler Boyd to fumble late in the fourth quarter during the Steelers’ win over the Bengals Sunday at Heinz Field. cu - Associated Press
PITTSBURGH – It’s just two games but a trend is developing with the Steelers defense.

This current group might not be a Steel Curtain, but for opposing running backs, it has proven to be something akin to banging your head against a brick wall.

Though the pass defense is allowing yardage, the Steelers are doing a good job of keeping opponents out of the end zone, thanks in part to that improved run defense.

The Steelers have allowed just two touchdowns in their first two games, including one in a 24-16 win Sunday over the Cincinnati Bengals that improved Pittsburgh’s record to 2-0.

The Steelers have permitted just 101 yards rushing on 31 carries in their first two games. Take away three quarterback scrambles for 15 yards and that falls to 86 yards on 28 carries by running backs, an average of 3.1 yards per carry.

That’s Steelers defense circa 2008, when that unit carried the team to a Super Bowl.

“We realize that the teams that have a lot of success on us, when they’re able to run the ball, play run and pass, it’s hard to compete with those things,” said Steelers outside linebacker Arthur Moats. “When you’re able to make them one-dimensional, you’re able to have a lot of success against them.”

That has been the mantra of the Steelers defense for years, but they haven’t been as stout in recent seasons. In 2013, the team gave up 115.6 yards rushing and 4.3 yards per carry. Last year, it was 91.2 and 3.8.

Most impressive, the Steelers are doing it with largely the same group of players that lined up last season. Rookie nose tackle Javon Hargrave has played sparingly as the Steelers have gone to more nickel and dime defenses, putting fellow rookies Sean Davis and Artie Burns on the field in the secondary.

“It’s great. It really turns the game into 7-on-7 for me,” said free safety Mike Mitchell. “I joke around with them, when you let me play 7-on-7, I’ll diagnose the play and I’ll bang you out plays in the secondary. It just makes our job so much easier when they’re dominating in the run game.”

While the Steelers are allowing 348 yards passing per game, way up from the 272 allowed in 2015 when they ranked 30th in the league, much of that has been empty yards.

The Steelers have given up just 16 points in each of their first two games and conversions of just 7 of 26 third down attempts (26.9 percent), including 4 of 16 against Cincinnati.

Houston led the NFL in third down defense in 2015, allowing a conversion rate of 28.5 percent.

“It made a difference in the football game,” said Cincinnati head coach Marvin Lewis, a McDonald native and Fort Cherry High School graduate. “We didn’t have enough positives on first down, and we didn’t convert the third downs.”

The Steelers are not only finding ways to stop opponents on third downs, their red zone defense has been outstanding.

Opponents have scored a touchdown on just 1 of 7 trips inside the Pittsburgh 20. Included in those stops was the Steelers keeping the Bengals out of the end zone Sunday after even with a first-and-goal from the one.

Ryan Shazier recorded a tackle for a 2-yard loss on first down and the Bengals threw incomplete twice after that before settling for a field goal.

“We’ve got one of the best quarterbacks, best running backs, best receivers in the league,” said Shazier. “We know that when they’re moving the ball, it’s hard to stop them.

“We’ve got to hold them to a field goal or get a turnover. If we do that, with our offense, it’s a big win.”

It’s becoming a recurring theme for these Steelers.

But as they are quick to note, it is a very small sample size.

“I’m not ready to say that just yet. It’s only the second game,” linebacker James Harrison said. “I think we’ll get four games before I feel comfortable deciding what is what.”

Odds and end zones
This is just the fourth time in head coach Mike Tomlin’s 10 seasons the Steelers have started 2-0. The other years were 2007, 2008 and 2010. … Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has thrown a TD pass in 39 consecutive home games, tying him with Dan Marino for the third-longest such streak in league history. Drew Brees (55) holds the record. … Roethlisberger has three touchdowns in each of the first two games. Terry Bradshaw (1982) is the only other Pittsburgh quarterback to do that.
 
31/54, 366 yards, 1 TD. That was Dalton's line. 6,7 yards per pass attempted, couple that with their running game completely shutted and there you have a very efficient D
 
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