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[Superman]

Was it Tomlin or Colbert that said, we are here to win games not the draft. So, the cowboys are drafting Pro Bowl talent but can't get into the playoffs or win playoff games? Is 3 playoff games since 96 correct?

I don't care if the FO drafts Pro Bowl players at every spot if the team can't win. Foolish.

to add - when did they last win a playoff game?
Cowboys is awesome!

 

[POP]

For every Cowboys' draft board, you'll find others where guys were rated a round or two higher. It's cool if that is actually their draft board, but really doesn't change anything. Plus, why would we worry how a team that has three playoff wins since 1996 evaluates prospects?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=1200&type=team

They haven't exactly "lit it up" in their drafts.

Byron Jones? Randy Gregory? Chaz Green?

I wouldn't worry much about how the ranked players, but I agree Davis was a reach. The first thing the commentators said when they took him, "He is raw. Like, really, really raw."

I don't prefer "projects" as early as the 2nd round. Not wise.

 

[antdrewjosh]

You also have to factor in scheme fit. As a strong safety Davis fits our scheme. We didn't look at his play as a CB as a negative but as a plus. Yes he had trouble as a CB covering WRs. We will be asking him to cover TEs. That time spent playing CB covering WRs will benefit Davis going forward covering TEs. Now the Steelers can really go with that Big Nickel(3 safeties) defense with way more confidence. Davis can play close to the line of scrimmage against the run and cover and blitz from the slot or go out wide with the Eiferts gronks and other TEs. Something Golden couldn't do which forced us to try to match up with CB. So yes some teams have higher grades on certain players based on how well they fi their scheme..and that is something these draft gurus and message board Coaches myself included don't get cause they don't have that crucial info.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

He was also on their board as a CB at 5 not a safety. This also might reflect the difference in grades. I think he rates much higher as a safety.

 

[antdrewjosh]

He was also on their board as a CB at 5 not a safety. This also might reflect the difference in grades. I think he rates much higher as a safety.

Man WTF as CB.. Jesus Christ he got me again. Forever leaving out crucial info..smh.

Seriously Coach you didn't think that mattered???

 

[POP]

He was also on their board as a CB at 5 not a safety. This also might reflect the difference in grades. I think he rates much higher as a safety.

I don' think he should/would be drafted at ALL at CB. He got fried trying to cover at CB, like burn't up.

But the last thing I am worried about is what Dallas thought.

I think our team has over-valued what Seattle has done, in terms of ensuring they have lanky DBs. It can work, just signing lanky DBs alone is not an iron clad model. Having some length is good, but not if they are weak in other areas, like instincts, quickness, etc.

 

[POP]

Man WTF as CB.. Jesus Christ he got me again. Forever leaving out crucial info..smh.

Seriously Coach you didn't think that mattered???

That's a fair question.

 

[slashsteel]

I think the experts that took exception to Davis was due to his CB play, but the Steelers like what they saw from when he played safety, and having a S with CB capabilities, probably factored into their thinking he was TE coverage capable.

 

[chipped ham]

Let me put it this way, 24 other teams passed on him. If the Steelers did not select Burns, he could slide into round two, where most draft pundits had him. The Steelers could have traded down, picked up a 3rd round pick and still had Burns.

I think Davis will disappoint. His coverage was pretty bad.

Burns 50/50. If he lacks recovery speed / quickness, Burns is in trouble and will be the next Chad Scott. You might not be able to see what I'm talking about in the pre-season games, but others will.

Sure, 24 teams passed on him, but would 31 teams pass on him? Wasn't it pretty well speculated that Arizona coveted Burns at 27 or wherever they picked and that's why they took Nkemdiche? And you still will not give up the fact that just about every draft "expert" was basing Davis' 15 season off the fact that he played corner. Yes, he had a rough time at corner, but You continuously refuse to acknowledge that Davis is going to be a safety for this team and in the 3 seasons before 2015, Davis was pretty solid in that role.

 

[chipped ham]

DeMarco Murray was a great pick in round three. The Steelers miss plenty in rounds 2 and 3. Not quite as bad as Dallas does.

Aside from a bad owner, Dallas' biggest problem is Romo is hurt too often. You can look up their record with him healthy and with him hurt. You must admit they have done very well in round one.

I'll give you round 3, but in the last 5 drafts, the Steelers have just about hit it out of the park(Gilbert, Bell, Tuitt, Worilds was a contributer). Other than Worilds, the other 3 are pretty ******* good at their positions and amongst the best in the league. The only player they really missed on was Mike Adams. And before him you have to go all the way to 2008 and Limas Sweed.

 

[SteelerAl]

For those that haven't read the linked article, you should note that the Cowboys had 16 guys with first-round grades. So even though Artie Burns had a second-round grade, there were only 20 players rated higher than him.

 

[SteelerAl]

Let me put it this way, 24 other teams passed on him. If the Steelers did not select Burns, he could slide into round two, where most draft pundits had him. The Steelers could have traded down, picked up a 3rd round pick and still had Burns.

I think Davis will disappoint. His coverage was pretty bad.

Burns 50/50. If he lacks recovery speed / quickness, Burns is in trouble and will be the next Chad Scott. You might not be able to see what I'm talking about in the pre-season games, but others will.

The ultimate DRAFT DOUCHE argument is the old "we could have traded down and still got [Player X]." You don't have any idea whether that's true or not. The Cowboys had just 20 players rated higher than Burns.

 

[Coach]

Or Kansas City could have taken him who the **** knows who cares? Oh you do cause you still butt hurt about the draft. SMH.. That was May. No one cares about the what ifs could haves it's over. I wanted Billings I'm not crying about it or wishing Hargrove sucks to make me look right for wanting Billings. Let it go already..

Also don't talk in circles about Burns or Davis. Just write Bust if that's what you are calling. Say it "I think" no this coach I'm talking too. Say I know they will be bust. Put it on record Coach.

It's a good thing I'm not trying to agitate you. LOL

Kansas City took Peters the year before...the player I wanted. I doubt they would pick another corner in round one in 2016. I'm okay with Hargrove. If you read the post 23 in this thread, I think Davis will disapoint. To be a bust, that's Archer, a pick I hated.

Burns to me is 50/50.

 

[Coach]

I'll give you round 3, but in the last 5 drafts, the Steelers have just about hit it out of the park(Gilbert, Bell, Tuitt, Worilds was a contributer). Other than Worilds, the other 3 are pretty ******* good at their positions and amongst the best in the league. The only player they really missed on was Mike Adams. And before him you have to go all the way to 2008 and Limas Sweed.

I agree with much of what you said, except for the last part.

Jarvis Jones was a swing and a miss. What does he have, 5 sacks since 2012? The Archer pick was a bad one. You can get a return guy very late or as a rookie free agent. The Steelers traded their 3rd round pick to get S. Thomas, correct?. I wasn't a fan of that and it's pretty clear he has been a bad pick.

 

[SteelerFan448]

It's a good thing I'm not trying to agitate you. LOL

Kansas City took Peters the year before...the player I wanted. I doubt they would pick another corner in round one in 2016. I'm okay with Hargrove. If you read the post 23 in this thread, I think Davis will disapoint. To be a bust, that's Archer, a pick I hated.

Burns to me is 50/50.

You never know. They still spent two of their first four selections on cornerbacks. Also, the Steelers recently spent three straight first-round draft picks on linebackers.

 

[antdrewjosh]

You never know. They still spent two of their first four selections on cornerbacks. Also, the Steelers recently spent three straight first-round draft picks on linebackers.

And they also had to replace their other starting CB Steve Smith but whatever right Coach.

 

[stillwright]

I agree with much of what you said, except for the last part.

Jarvis Jones was a swing and a miss. What does he have, 5 sacks since 2012? The Archer pick was a bad one. You can get a return guy very late or as a rookie free agent. The Steelers traded their 3rd round pick to get S. Thomas, correct?. I wasn't a fan of that and it's pretty clear he has been a bad pick.

Seems you have not liked every bad move the Steelers have made since they moved up and drafted Troy in the 1st round all those many years ago. Good job Coach. One can only hope and dream to have someone like yourself and Pop in ones FO. If only the Steelers had both of your insight into the draft.

 

[Steelz]

Interesting they have Burns rated a full round higher than WJ3.

 

[Steelz]

bloggingtheboys.com/2016/7/18/12208248/all-seven-rounds-of-dallas-cowboys-2016-draft-board-possibly-revealed
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This really interest me the more i look at it, it shows that there must be some inside info or secret pre-draft alliances going on, they were spot on on a few projected pics including ours. You see they have the player at thier talent grade round then they have the projected picks they're expected to go. Its interesting that they have Artie Burns not going past us and being drafted anywhere between 1-25 and have WJ3 not going past the Bengals at 1-24, so they pretty much knew the Bengals would take him if he was there and we'd take Artie at our pick. They predicted Goff would be the first pick too having him 1-1. and Wentz not going past pick 2. Thier whole board is pretty accurate to how the draft actually played out.

 

[chipped ham]

I agree with much of what you said, except for the last part.

Jarvis Jones was a swing and a miss. What does he have, 5 sacks since 2012? The Archer pick was a bad one. You can get a return guy very late or as a rookie free agent. The Steelers traded their 3rd round pick to get S. Thomas, correct?. I wasn't a fan of that and it's pretty clear he has been a bad pick.

You're absolutely right on this, they have missed BIG TIME on some guys, especially the three you mentioned. However, I was just talking about our success in Round 2 in my last post.