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Le’Veon Bell don't you worry about his FOCUS.

Sometimes it's easy to overlook the fact that with as many misses as a drafting team may make, the ability to draft some of the best players the league has seen in rounds outside of 1, is absolutely amazing. Bell and Brown is a 1-2 punch that any team would take over their starters.
 
He ain't getting 15 million from the Steelers and I wouldn't give it to him. Brown will get paid first with top 5 and probably top 3 money. I doubt Bell gets top 3 money from the Steelers. He might get top 5 but we shall see.
 
antdrewjosh said:
Bell also said on twitter he would never leave the Steelers.


http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...eon-bell-tweets-hes-never-leaving-pittsburgh/
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LOL, what an athlete says and does once the situation and money changes can make him look like a liar. I put very little stock in this quote. Time stamp it, and check back in when his career is over. I bet you he does leave the Steelers or play for another team.
 
Litos said:
If I were the FO I'd only extend Timmons if he takes a serious paycut, he's getting long in the tooth and we just invested a 1st rounder on ILB
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The cap money allocated for Pouncey and Timmons this season is significant. Timmons though overpaid has played hard and stayed healthy.
 
Coach said:
The cap money allocated for Pouncey and Timmons this season is significant. Timmons though overpaid has played hard and stayed healthy.
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Yeap, I've always defended his hard work, availability and constant play but giving him a new contract anywhere close to what he previously got in average per year would be crazy. He has peaked since a couple of years back, how long can he stay at that level? A mid level ILB contract should be in order, maybe 15M for three years with 7 guaranteed?
 
Coach said:
LOL, what an athlete says and does once the situation and money changes can make him look like a liar. I put very little stock in this quote. Time stamp it, and check back in when his career is over. I bet you he does leave the Steelers or play for another team.
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But if he does something you perceive as negative you hold him to it til their death.
 
Right now Bell is staring at the prospect of making just over $1 million to play the upcoming season. He's coming off a significant knee injury. Just imagine that he has an incredible season and leads us to a Super Bowl victory but blows out his knee in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. His career could be over at that point and he will have "only" banked a 4-year rookie deal for a 2nd round draft pick.

He should be motivated to do a long term deal right now (or as soon as he's shown in training camp that his knee is 100%)...
 
POP said:
It doesn't help his cause that when he was out of the line up, the offense didn't miss a beat. As a matter of fact, I think it actually got more productive.
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That's because when Bell was playing RB, we had Mike Vick and Landry Jones playing QB. DeAngelo Williams got the vast, vast majority of his carries with Big Ben at QB.

Bell played really, really well given that defenses were keying on him with Big Ben out of the lineup.
 
SteelerAl said:
That's because when Bell was playing RB, we had Mike Vick and Landry Jones playing QB. DeAngelo Williams got the vast, vast majority of his carries with Big Ben at QB.

Bell played really, really well given that defenses were keying on him with Big Ben out of the lineup.
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Exactly..Bell's performance with Vick and Landry at QB with the opposition keyed on stopping him is more or just as impressive as Williams performance with Ben.
 
I have no problem with given Bell $15M, as long as it's his signing bonus!
 
Cope said:
I have no problem with given Bell $15M, as long as it's his signing bonus!
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I'm on record as saying anything between 10 million to 13 million I'm fine with. You don't lowball the best RB in the game and he isn't going to come cheap.
 
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LOL, what an athlete says and does once the situation and money changes can make him look like a liar. I put very little stock in this quote. Time stamp it, and check back in when his career is over. I bet you he does leave the Steelers or play for another team.

antdrewjosh said:
But if he does something you perceive as negative you hold him to it til their death.
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I'm glad you brought this up. 3 years is a long time in the NFL. If Bell stays clean for 3 years in a row I won't view him as a risk off the field anymore and think he has matured as a person.

If he can avoid major knee or other injuries for this season I'd be less concerned about his ability to stay healthy.

Fair?

Until then I worry about both. So should all fans.

The truth is he has been injured his knee twice, been arrested and suspended for a two-year period. Bell's hobby as rap music artists makes me nervous as the company he keeps there can tempt him to use stuff that will make him flunk an NFL drug test. I think the fans are casting a blind eye at this, combined with his past off the field issues.

History of the Steelers show the players who have issues with POT hurt their careers. Once a pot smoker, pretty much always a pot smoker. The question is are the players who smoke smart enough to know when the tests are coming and can they stay clean enough for a period of time to pass the test.

Some past Steelers who liked the weed a bit too much:

Bam Morris
S. Holmes
Byrant

Personally, I think a failed drug test for pot should result in a fine only.

But the NFL has the rule in there for a real reason. Pot reduces pain, and it's important to know when you are in pain from an injury perspective, otherwise you can make it worse. So the rule is there to help preserve player health.

In combat sports like boxing Weed is illegal for the same reason. Football isn't a combat sport, but it's the biggest collision sport there is by far.
 
antdrewjosh said:
I'm on record as saying anything between 10 million to 13 million I'm fine with. You don't lowball the best RB in the game and he isn't going to come cheap.
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CRAZY. Williams a pick up past his prime did almost as well a Bell. Are you saying there is a 10-11 million dollar cap difference between the two in terms of performance?

Backs have short NFL lives. Two injuries plus an off the field suspension should signal to the Steelers not to offer a deal over two years. I'd prefer one year deal ( franchise tag ) that allows a team to take Bell and cough up two first-round picks if they do. Then I'd spend the 10-12 million in other areas and draft a back.

Bell suggested he's looking for 15 million.
 
As a fan of hip hop since I was a teenager just cause you listen to it or your an artist or part of the culture in any way doesn't mean you smoke weed and I think it's stupid to say so.
 
antdrewjosh said:
As a fan of hip hop since I was a teenager just cause you listen to it or your an artist or part of the culture in any way doesn't mean you smoke weed and I think it's stupid to say so.
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Just what a stoned guy would say.....

We already KNOW Bell puffs (or has).
 
Coach said:
CRAZY. Williams a pick up past his prime did almost as well a Bell. Are you saying there is a 10-11 million dollar cap difference between the two in terms of performance?

Backs have short NFL lives. Two injuries plus an off the field suspension should signal to the Steelers not to offer a deal over two years. I'd prefer one year deal ( franchise tag ) that allows a team to take Bell and cough up two first-round picks if they do. Then I'd spend the 10-12 million in other areas and draft a back.

Bell suggested he's looking for 15 million.
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Yes I'm saying Bell's performance against teams game planning to stop him with Vick and Landry at QB is more impressive then William's with Big Ben at QB and teams having to prepare for everyone else..

Bell is 24. If Williams was younger and could be counted on to be a long term replacement you may have a point but he isnt. Bell is considered to be to be the best all around back in football and it's not close. If healthy for 16 games this year I have no problem with Steelers paying him what I already stated. You don't let the best back go to look for the next guy. That's dumb. Like others have said then franchise him. He still going to get in between the numbers I stated. If your not getting a Herschel Walker type haul in return you keep him. If Ben is injured Bell has proven he can still put up numbers. Not even Brown has done that.
 
antdrewjosh said:
As a fan of hip hop since I was a teenager just cause you listen to it or your an artist or part of the culture in any way doesn't mean you smoke weed and I think it's stupid to say so.
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Fans, okay. I agree with you! But which of the hip hop artists does not smoke? Give me your best guess please. Bell thinks he's an artist.
 
ark steel said:
Just what a stoned guy would say.....

We already KNOW Bell puffs (or has).
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Ctfu I don't smoke anymore and when I did I knew a lot of people who were heavily into the music and didn't smoke
 
Coach said:
Fans, okay. I agree with you! But which of the hip hop artists does not smoke? Give me your best guess please. Bell thinks he's an artist.
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So because he smoked before and insist he doesn't now he has to stop listening or making music
 
Fans, okay. I agree with you! But which of the hip hop artists does not smoke? Give me your best guess, please. Bell thinks he's an artist. - Coach

antdrewjosh said:
So because he smoked before and insist he doesn't now he has to stop listening or making music
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I was asking you what percentage of the artists do you believe smoke weed? Bell can do what he wishes on his off time, I just think embracing a culture where those who make the music ( As Bell is doing ) openly embrace weed isn't a good idea for him, based on his past background.

I think anyone who thinks this was Bell's first time smoking and he just happened to be caught by the police is very naive
 
What do the percentage has to do with anything??? Why are you singling out hip hop music? Drugs aren't used in other music only hip hop?? So again he has to stop making music because he got caught smoking weed???
 
Coach said:
LOL, what an athlete says and does once the situation and money changes can make him look like a liar. I put very little stock in this quote. Time stamp it, and check back in when his career is over. I bet you he does leave the Steelers or play for another team.




I'm glad you brought this up. 3 years is a long time in the NFL. If Bell stays clean for 3 years in a row I won't view him as a risk off the field anymore and think he has matured as a person.

If he can avoid major knee or other injuries for this season I'd be less concerned about his ability to stay healthy.

Fair?

Until then I worry about both. So should all fans.

The truth is he has been injured his knee twice, been arrested and suspended for a two-year period. Bell's hobby as rap music artists makes me nervous as the company he keeps there can tempt him to use stuff that will make him flunk an NFL drug test. I think the fans are casting a blind eye at this, combined with his past off the field issues.

History of the Steelers show the players who have issues with POT hurt their careers. Once a pot smoker, pretty much always a pot smoker. The question is are the players who smoke smart enough to know when the tests are coming and can they stay clean enough for a period of time to pass the test.

Some past Steelers who liked the weed a bit too much:

Bam Morris
S. Holmes
Byrant

Personally, I think a failed drug test for pot should result in a fine only.

But the NFL has the rule in there for a real reason. Pot reduces pain, and it's important to know when you are in pain from an injury perspective, otherwise you can make it worse. So the rule is there to help preserve player health.

In combat sports like boxing Weed is illegal for the same reason. Football isn't a combat sport, but it's the biggest collision sport there is by far.
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Let's be real here. The only people that I truly hope to have concern with these areas is our front office. Who really cares what us fans think? For instance. You keep going back to Bell and his rap buddy's....thinking maybe he has a higher chance of smoking. The fact is any body he hangs with could be pot smokers. I think you have watched to much MTV in your younger days. Stop believing in what the hip hop industry wants you to believe just so they can sell records.
 
Wait a tick, Players can't smoke pot because it reduces pain? Not nearly as much as the pain pills that the NFL gets athletes hooked on, and is part of a multimillion dollar lawsuit currently against the NFL.

Pot helps you cope with pain, it doesn't remove it like actual neural inhibitors.
 
here is Kirwan on Bell's worth,

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...scusses-market-value-steelers-rb-leveon-bell/
 
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