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Jarvis decision today?

So its wrong to hope? I just want the team to do well. Teams over pay in free agency, I can see a number of teams overpaying JJ. Plus his status as a 1st round pick will play into the comp equation as well.

No one overpaid Worilds so he quit.
 
No one overpaid Worilds so he quit.


Any Idea as to what the STEELERS offer was???? I know he was overpaid with the franchise tag pay which I thought the team was going to renegotiate, but obviously not to Worilds liking. AS for Uncle Jarvis, if he gets any kind of a year this season, HE WILL GET OVERPAID and I just hope it's not by the STEELERS. !!!!!



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Any Idea as to what the STEELERS offer was???? I know he was overpaid with the franchise tag pay which I thought the team was going to renegotiate, but obviously not to Worilds liking. AS for Uncle Jarvis, if he gets any kind of a year this season, HE WILL GET OVERPAID and I just hope it's not by the STEELERS. !!!!!
If memory serves they didn't make him an offer, rather they were waiting to see what other teams offered and if they'd want to match.
 
I think you are right. THEN no one made an offer of any significance, Worilds retired. He sat back and was hoping fore another franchise tag......... I am so glad the STEELERS didn't bite.!!!!




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So the amount of players from each draft class that "stick" keep dropping

2008 - None
2009 - None
2010 - Two
2011 - Two
2012 - One
2013 - ??? (Bell, Wheaton, S. Thomas, L. Jones and V. Williams have chances)

That's a pretty rough stretch of drafts for guys you get into their 2nd contracts.
 
I hope they give everybody and anybody a fair chance to out play Jarvis. He just goes through the motions. He doesn't play with fire in his belly. We need someone in that spot with some "fight" inside them.
 
I hope they give everybody and anybody a fair chance to out play Jarvis. He just goes through the motions. He doesn't play with fire in his belly. We need someone in that spot with some "fight" inside them.
I disagree I think he plays with fire and the problem is lack of athletic ability.
 
I'd like to see Chickillo and Jones battle in camp. Tomlin should have kept Howard Jones. He ended up with 5 sacks last year. After 60+ practices and flim, you'd figure Howard was worth a spot. But we let him walk
 
Jarvis is a sunk cost this year, but I wonder if he couldn't be flipped for some other guy on another team who also did not have his option picked up.

From the 2013 draft



2. Luke Joeckel, OT, Jaguars (the Jagurs will not pick up his option)
6. Barkevious Mingo, OLB, Browns (the Browns did not pick up his option)
9. Dee Milliner, CB, Jets (the Jets won’t pick up his option)
10. Chance Warmack, G, Titans (the Titans won’t pick up his option)
12. DJ Hayden, CB, Raiders (the Raiders declined to pick up his option)
16. E.J. Manuel, QB, Bills (the Bills declined to pick up his option)
17. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Steelers (the Steelers declined to pick up his option)
26. Datone Jones, DE, Packers (the Packers declined his option)
28. Sylvester Williams, DT, Broncos (the Broncos will not pick up Williams’ option)
29. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Vikings (the Vikings declined to pick up his option)
32. Matt Elam, S, Ravens (the Ravens declined to pick up his option)

Any of these guys seem interesting enough to try to 1 for 1 trade Jarvis for?
 
We drafted a guy in the seventh round this year that had better measurables than Jarvis, and the kid will play inside linebacker. We have a much faster guy that out grew the safety position they picked this year and is slated to be an outside guy. We have chic from last year who seems to be growing in value and skill while being converted from end. I suspect the steelers already have guys to replace jarvis, moats and james on the roster and might be replacing 3 with 2.
 
I think you are right. THEN no one made an offer of any significance, Worilds retired. He sat back and was hoping fore another franchise tag......... I am so glad the STEELERS didn't bite.!!!!
Exactly. I do think the Steelers would have re-signed him at their price but being that no one else made Worilds an offer, their price was going to be pretty low, like vet minimum. One good half-season in four years does not get someone a gazillion dollar contract now that Al Davis is dead.
 
No one overpaid Worilds so he quit.

I disagree with this. I think it was obvious to everyone involved during his FA period that he would just as soon quit as play football regardless of the $$. Therefore, there were no offers.
 
I hope they give everybody and anybody a fair chance to out play Jarvis. He just goes through the motions. He doesn't play with fire in his belly. We need someone in that spot with some "fight" inside them.

Actually, I don't think it's a lack of drive or passion as much as it is a lack of talent. He isn't power nor fast; he can't bull rush OR take the outside and get to the QB with any consistency (5 sacks in 3 years). I think JJ tries, he just isn't any good.
 
I disagree with this. I think it was obvious to everyone involved during his FA period that he would just as soon quit as play football regardless of the $$. Therefore, there were no offers.

If anyone threw down a multi-year deal with a big signing bonus, he would have jumped at it. But no one was dumb enough to do it.
 
If anyone threw down a multi-year deal with a big signing bonus, he would have jumped at it. But no one was dumb enough to do it.

And you know this how? He could of got millions to stay. Some of you act like even regular contracts are chump change.
 
I disagree with this. I think it was obvious to everyone involved during his FA period that he would just as soon quit as play football regardless of the $$. Therefore, there were no offers.

And you know this how? He could of got millions to stay. Some of you act like even regular contracts are chump change.

He didn't retire when the season ended. He retired a week or so into the FA period when no big offers came in.
 
He didn't retire when the season ended. He retired a week or so into the FA period when no big offers came in.

If it was common knowledge how he felt, why would anyone give him a big offer? Clearly, they wouldn't.

In any event, how do you know he didn't get any offers?

He didn't drag it out for months. He knew what he wanted out of life and it wasn't football.
 
He didn't retire when the season ended. He retired a week or so into the FA period when no big offers came in.

Even an average offer would of been 4 million a year average. If money was really a priority for him he would of taken that in a heart beat

The guy left to take up ministry work. I doubt the money is flowing in doing that kind of work.
 
In any event, how do you know he didn't get any offers?
Because I watch and read the news and pay close attention to the experts www.steelernation.com.

He didn't drag it out for months. He knew what he wanted out of life and it wasn't football.
A while ago there was a Player X article in ESPN Magazine. These are articles written anonymously by pro athletes in different sports. The NFL guy said that while most players love the game, there are a number who really don't like it, don't like the pounding they take, but realize they are good athletes and it's way more money than they'd ever make doing anything else. They can't wait to have enough in the bank to retire then go do something else...or do nothing. I would put Worilds (and Mendenhall) in that category....for $4 million...for $10 million he's still a player.
 
Jarvis is a late round talent taken in the first round. Every coaching talent evaluation team misses sometime, this guy was a big miss. He had good production in college and it seems the steelers want to give him every chance to be the player he was in college. I suspect that was as good as he could get, and he matured early in talent level. Many of the other kids he played in college continued to develop and became good nfl players as well as good college players. It is likely in my opinion that were he to face those same players that went on in the ranks of the nfl that he would not be as dominant now as he was then.

He also had injuries to deal with and that could have been a set back as well. Some players seem to recover to a point after injuries but never get back to being as good as they were prior to being hurt. I think jarvis is just not going to pan out. I suspect Chick maybe better and I think we likely have 3 more linebackers on the team now that will end up being superior to jarvis rather quickly.
 
Jarvis is a late round talent taken in the first round. Every coaching talent evaluation team misses sometime, this guy was a big miss. He had good production in college and it seems the steelers want to give him every chance to be the player he was in college. I suspect that was as good as he could get, and he matured early in talent level. Many of the other kids he played in college continued to develop and became good nfl players as well as good college players. It is likely in my opinion that were he to face those same players that went on in the ranks of the nfl that he would not be as dominant now as he was then.

He also had injuries to deal with and that could have been a set back as well. Some players seem to recover to a point after injuries but never get back to being as good as they were prior to being hurt. I think jarvis is just not going to pan out. I suspect Chick maybe better and I think we likely have 3 more linebackers on the team now that will end up being superior to jarvis rather quickly.

Exactly. The problem I have is not that we busted in Rd1. My issue is that the Steelers talked all offseason about how Jarvis is actually great despite bad film and Michael Sam-level atrocious workouts. Then they ran to the podium with about 9 minutes left on the clock to take him.

If you miss, you miss. But we were locked onto that miss from Day 1 and didn't really consider alternatives.
 
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