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Udfa thread

Meh - let other teams train up the best UDFAs for a change. Then if there's a hole in the roster come roster trimming time, pick them off their practice squads. Not all of these UDFA gems will get on a roster, and will be easy pickings for a team "without any depth" like the Steelers. LOL
I think we have some room on the roster for some to make it.

S - take Sham not so wows ST duties
WR Our late rounder isn't a lock.
RB- they were looking for one (rumored) in the 5th
ILBer - Red headed stepchild isn't a lock
OLber- Speedy late rounder isn't a lock
QB- Unless they sign a vet, which I am thinking they will. As they also were rumored to be looking at the position in the 5th
 
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I don't understand the Steelers' phobia about drafting a QB, or signing one as an UDFA. It's strange. The Seahawks have a good young QB in Wilson, yet want to look at Boykin and Vernon Adams.

BR goes down, and the team is pretty much screwed.

At the least they should have drafted someone to challenge Jones.
 
I don't understand the Steelers' phobia about drafting a QB, or signing one as an UDFA. It's strange. The Seahawks have a good young QB in Wilson, yet want to look at Boykin and Vernon Adams.

BR goes down, and the team is pretty much screwed.

At the least they should have drafted someone to challenge Jones.

rumor has it they tried to trade into 5 for one, but to no avail

perhaps one will get cut before the season, and be brought in
 
They have to do something.

The Gradkowski/Jones - or Jones/Gradkowski, or whatever - combo just doesn't cut it.

I like the idea of looking at young QBs, not retreads.

But the Steelers give off the vibe that they couldn't be bothered. And it's been like this for some time. Even when Batch was near the end of the line, and Leftwich was hanging on, they were cavalier about it.

IF BR pulls a Heath Miller after this season, they'll be scrambling big-time.
 
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We'll know full well when they get serious about finding a replacement for Ben. It won't be a big mystery, probably a first round pick like Ben was.

As far as a back-up, I agree we've got to do better than Landry Jones and even Gradkowski, Vick et al. Hopefully a somewhat decent QB will be signed by the end of the summer. You've got to think they'll be looking at some QB's that get squeezed off of other rosters as the season gets close. Much rather have a vested veteran than some late round prospect.

In the meantime, they'll probably sign a couple of no name QB's soon to get them through rookie camp.
 
In theory I hope you're right.

But they were lucky to have gotten BR. It took a pretty crummy season, and then some goofs by teams that drafted ahead of them.,
 
I wonder - if we were looking at RB in the 5th, what was wrong with Keith Marshall? I see big things for that kid's future.
 
In theory I hope you're right.

But they were lucky to have gotten BR. It took a pretty crummy season, and then some goofs by teams that drafted ahead of them.,

You could say similar things about any of the top QBs. Took a crummy season, anyway.
 
You could say similar things about any of the top QBs. Took a crummy season, anyway.

Except Rodgers and Brady but yeah
 
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How as this guy not drafted, his college tape blows Jarvis's away plus he has great speed and suddenness, could be the steal of the UDFA period.
 
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How as this guy not drafted, his college tape blows Jarvis's away plus he has great speed and suddenness, could be the steal of the UDFA period.

I think, and not to sound "SteelerNation board cliche" he really wasn't used properly much like Chickillo. They far too often had McCord it seems dropping into coverage, and even though he probably did well his clips as a pass rusher show a natural edge player.
 
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How as this guy not drafted, his college tape blows Jarvis's away plus he has great speed and suddenness, could be the steal of the UDFA period.

He was a pass rush specialist, not an every down player. Doesn't set the edge, get his *** handed to him by blockers when there's not a clear lane to the football. Has had injuries.

When evaluating a player, you need a couple of full games to watch, not just highlights. The kid has some explosive QB hits, and I like that. On special teams and as a dime rusher, I can see some value. But he's not nearly an every down player at this stage. Will take some time to develop.
 
He was a pass rush specialist, not an every down player. Doesn't set the edge, get his *** handed to him by blockers when there's not a clear lane to the football. Has had injuries.

When evaluating a player, you need a couple of full games to watch, not just highlights. The kid has some explosive QB hits, and I like that. On special teams and as a dime rusher, I can see some value. But he's not nearly an every down player at this stage. Will take some time to develop.

I scooped this in another thread


but Miami fans have been harping that their players were undercoached, as he was fired this offseason.

As in this players case per fans who watched every Miami game, he was dropped into coverage far too often minimizing his pass rushing opportunities.

Porter seems to like his burst around the edge. He will be a fun one to watch.
 
Steelers Add Two More For Rookie Minicamp Tryouts
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2016/05/steelers-add-two-rookie-minicamp-tryouts/

Since the bulk of undrafted free agents were announced at the conclusion of yesterday’s draft, two more players have been invited to the Pittsburgh Steelers’ rookie minicamp this week. They will participate on a tryout basis.

They are Toledo corner Cheatham Norrils and Penn State running back Brandon Johnson.

Norrils has a pretty wild story. He missed the entire 2014 year with a viral infection that put him in the hospital and caused him to lose nearly 30 pounds. Doctors were never able to pin down exactly a diagnosis but he recovered and saw a productive 2015 campaign. He recorded 66 tackles and three interceptions for the Rockets.

Standing in at just under 5’11, 191 pounds, he had a decent Pro Day. His 40 time was poor, just a 4.6, but earned positive marks everywhere else. A 40.5 inch vert, 11’1″ broad, and 4.20/6.62 agility times.

Johnson rarely saw the field on offense for the Nittany Lions. He has just two career carries to his name, each coming last season. Most of his work came on special teams. Johnson opened eyes though with a tremendous workout. He blazed a 4.43, jumped 40.5 inches, and a 10’7″ in the broad. At 228 pounds, it’s as impressive you can be on paper.

Running back Cameron Stingily earned a tryout out of rookie minicamp last year. Terence Garvin carved out a similar path and much more successful career. So though these might be viewed as just “bodies,” there’s always the opportunity to earn a spot. Kevin Colbert said as much at last night press conference, thinking one or two players could get signed.
 
Amazing this kid never got a shot to carry the ball, other than playing ST. Pretty crazy though maybe he sucks as a RB.

Making The NFL Draft Case For Brandon Johnson
http://onwardstate.com/2016/03/31/making-the-nfl-draft-case-for-brandon-johnson/

Despite recording only four rushing attempts for 23 yards during his career, Brandon Johnson was a regular on special teams and served on the 2015 Leadership Council. But that alone isn’t enough to earn him a shot in the pros; there are countless graduating college players who have NFL dreams. Here’s where Johnson sets himself apart: He’s an absolute freak in the weight room.

Johnson caught the attention of the many scouts on hand (31 of 32 franchises were represented) at Penn State’s Pro Day two weeks ago in Holuba Hall, posting ridiculous testing numbers during his one and only chance to impress league representatives. Johnson’s 39.0 inch vertical jump would have tied him with San Jose State’s Tyler Ervin for second place among all running backs at February’s NFL Combine had he been invited.

Johnson also clocked a 4.43 40-yard dash, which would have been good enough for third place in his position group at this year’s combine (behind only Georgia’s Keith Marshall and Ervin), at 6-foot-2, 228 pounds. That kind of size/speed combo could, at the very least, be put to good use on a variety of special teams units for an NFL squad.

Though some have stated that the pressure associated with each program’s respective pro day can’t come close to that of Indianapolis, it should be argued that this year’s premier prospects — like Christian Hackenberg — at least had a second opportunity to drive up their draft stock. Guys like Brandon Johnson simply don’t have that luxury. Sure, the venue is obviously familiar, and they’re surrounded by teammates, but that doesn’t mean pro day is any less stressful for the fringe prospects.

The Harrisburg native played his high school ball and ran track at Middletown but missed his sophomore and junior seasons due to injuries, which meant there wasn’t much film for college coaches to comb through when offering scholarships. But Johnson found a home at Penn State as a walk-on midway through the sanctioned 2013 season when the Nittany Lions were nearly desperate to field a practice roster.

Even if Johnson goes the undrafted free agency route, which is a strong possibility, that doesn’t mean he couldn’t catch the eye of enough coaches to warrant his signing. There were 22 running backs selected in last year’s draft, and coincidentally, the 174th overall pick was fellow Harrisburg product Cameron Artis-Payne, who played in Super Bowl 50 with the Carolina Panthers. Though Johnson and Artis-Payne played on different classification levels (the Auburn Tiger suited up for Harrisburg High), meaning they’ve never squared off before, it would be fun to see the two meet on a Sunday or Monday night.

It’s crazy to think that the last Penn State running back to be drafted was Evan Royster, who went 177th overall to the Washington Redskins in 2011, but perhaps a franchise will take a shot on the elite athleticism of Brandon Johnson.
 
Amazing this kid never got a shot to carry the ball, other than playing ST. Pretty crazy though maybe he sucks as a RB.

Making The NFL Draft Case For Brandon Johnson
http://onwardstate.com/2016/03/31/making-the-nfl-draft-case-for-brandon-johnson/

Despite recording only four rushing attempts for 23 yards during his career, Brandon Johnson was a regular on special teams and served on the 2015 Leadership Council. But that alone isn’t enough to earn him a shot in the pros; there are countless graduating college players who have NFL dreams. Here’s where Johnson sets himself apart: He’s an absolute freak in the weight room.

Johnson caught the attention of the many scouts on hand (31 of 32 franchises were represented) at Penn State’s Pro Day two weeks ago in Holuba Hall, posting ridiculous testing numbers during his one and only chance to impress league representatives. Johnson’s 39.0 inch vertical jump would have tied him with San Jose State’s Tyler Ervin for second place among all running backs at February’s NFL Combine had he been invited.

Johnson also clocked a 4.43 40-yard dash, which would have been good enough for third place in his position group at this year’s combine (behind only Georgia’s Keith Marshall and Ervin), at 6-foot-2, 228 pounds. That kind of size/speed combo could, at the very least, be put to good use on a variety of special teams units for an NFL squad.

Though some have stated that the pressure associated with each program’s respective pro day can’t come close to that of Indianapolis, it should be argued that this year’s premier prospects — like Christian Hackenberg — at least had a second opportunity to drive up their draft stock. Guys like Brandon Johnson simply don’t have that luxury. Sure, the venue is obviously familiar, and they’re surrounded by teammates, but that doesn’t mean pro day is any less stressful for the fringe prospects.

The Harrisburg native played his high school ball and ran track at Middletown but missed his sophomore and junior seasons due to injuries, which meant there wasn’t much film for college coaches to comb through when offering scholarships. But Johnson found a home at Penn State as a walk-on midway through the sanctioned 2013 season when the Nittany Lions were nearly desperate to field a practice roster.

Even if Johnson goes the undrafted free agency route, which is a strong possibility, that doesn’t mean he couldn’t catch the eye of enough coaches to warrant his signing. There were 22 running backs selected in last year’s draft, and coincidentally, the 174th overall pick was fellow Harrisburg product Cameron Artis-Payne, who played in Super Bowl 50 with the Carolina Panthers. Though Johnson and Artis-Payne played on different classification levels (the Auburn Tiger suited up for Harrisburg High), meaning they’ve never squared off before, it would be fun to see the two meet on a Sunday or Monday night.

It’s crazy to think that the last Penn State running back to be drafted was Evan Royster, who went 177th overall to the Washington Redskins in 2011, but perhaps a franchise will take a shot on the elite athleticism of Brandon Johnson.

I remember a certain undrafted RB that never played in college, and he made the Steelers squad eventually becoming the starter. Here is a hint if you haven't figured it out yet (I'm sure most have), he owns the record for longest TD run in a super bowl.
 
I remember a certain undrafted RB that never played in college, and he made the Steelers squad eventually becoming the starter. Here is a hint if you haven't figured it out yet (I'm sure most have), he owns the record for longest TD run in a super bowl.

This is why I'm confident with some of our late round picks. We develop talent here. It's hard to argue that the guys we took aren't talented, so let's see what kind of soup we can make with these ingredients.
 
I remember a certain undrafted RB that never played in college, and he made the Steelers squad eventually becoming the starter. Here is a hint if you haven't figured it out yet (I'm sure most have), he owns the record for longest TD run in a super bowl.
rumor has it that he has sweet titties.
 
Johnson never carried the ball at PSU because they have a great RB Saquon Barkley. Steelers have nothing at RB after Deangelo. If this kid is great on special teams, he won't have to show much at RB to beat out Toussaint because he's nothing special.
 
Johnson never carried the ball at PSU because they have a great RB Saquon Barkley. Steelers have nothing at RB after Deangelo. If this kid is great on special teams, he won't have to show much at RB to beat out Toussaint because he's nothing special.

Croussaint showed pass catching capable.

Johnson will have to show something on the field, besides great measurable s...
 
I'm actually surprised that every PSU player entering the draft isnt given a gold blazer and a bust.
 
McCord certainly flashes some on tape. Plays with a nasty demeanor which you love to see. Athletically, he's got something to work with. Has a nice 1.60 10-yard split, an impressive 36.5" vertical, and an elite 6.69 3-cone
 
Not sure why Toussaint has been wrote off by many. He played well in his time.
 
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