RGIII Visits Stains

[deljzc]

I can't believe they gave him that much money. Holy stupid....

 

[Drink IRON City]

The Browns are the Browns. As for the poster thinking rg3 is going to give our defense the scramble mamble,..........I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT!!
We will "BREAK" him again. He's a run first / read second type QB. We will defend him with ease.




Salute the nation

 

[stillwright]

The Browns are the Browns. As for the poster thinking rg3 is going to give our defense the scramble mamble,..........I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT!!
We will "BREAK" him again. He's a run first / read second type QB. We will defend him with ease.




Salute the nation

From what I read he can't read a defense.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

I think RGIII gets a bad wrap. Coaching ruined him. Putting him out there with a bum knee was a terrible call. I would not trust the coaches or organization after that either. He could of handled the situation a little better, but the media constantly baited him looking for that golden sound bite. I think Cleveland can at least be competitive.
As for Camp Newton he had no receivers last year. This year will show a lot about him. He will have his top receiver back and it will be interesting to see how he handles the SB loss.

RG3 got a bad rap. But he ****** his career going to the Browns. He should have taken a backup role. Osweiller is not what people think he is. I think there's a good chance he gets exposed. Going someplace like that, where the QB situation could be in flux, was his best bet. Philly, Miami, Los Angeles (feels good to say that again). The Browns are where QBs go to die.

And it's too bad. The kid had some magic. But by going to the Browns to start and refusing to take a backup role on a competitive team he told me something about his character: Gruden is probably right about his ego. He's not going to sacrifice. He's going to demand special treatment and if he doesn't get it, he'll pout. He's not a team player.

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

Two coaches wanted nothing to do with him after his rookie year. Doesn't that tell you all you need to know?

To be fair, the first coach never wanted to draft him in the first place.

But then he went on to win ROY...

 

[wig]

I think RGIII gets a bad wrap. Coaching ruined him.

Well, Cleveland will certainly fix THAT!

 

[POP]

But Wilson and Young won because they made plays primarily from the pocket and running was their last option. Cunningham became a much better player when he stopped running as much.

Newton still doesn't read defenses like he should and struggles with accuracy. He does have good passing stats but most of his passing success is because defenses are so worried about his running that WRs are single covered. When Cam faces a defense that can stop the run game and force him to make plays from the pocket, he struggles.

Cam's weapons might have been you and I running routes out there. No one has ever done more with less.

They will get him some legit playmakers this season, and he will grow to a whole other level.

 

[Coach]

I can see the headlines now RGIII injures knee at the Saints facility. An early April fools joke, but a good one.

 

[doggfather69]

From what I read he can't read a defense.

Neither could Korky Stinkward and we kept him all those years. I don't think that matters anymore to some of these coaches. In fact I think some of the O Coordinators prefer to force feed these guys the progression they want.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Neither could Korky Stinkward and we kept him all those years. I don't think that matters anymore to some of these coaches. In fact I think some of the O Coordinators prefer to force feed these guys the progression they want.

"Reading defenses" is code for: "he is stupid".

And it's bullshit. Marino and Favre have both repeatedly debunked the idea that you have to be some "coach on the field" film room genius to play great football. Ball placement is far more important. A good throw will get you out of a bad read. The reverse is not true. A good read will not get you out of a bad throw. And watching film you'll find that most incomplete passes come from bad placement, not poor reads. QBs on their worst days still make the right read most of the time. They just tend to make the wrong throw.

As for Kordell, he was a great football player who never mastered passing. I contend that had Chan Gailey stayed with him for a number of years, and had he had the kind of receiving talent around him that Ben has, he could have won a SB for us. When your starters are named Will Blackwell, Courney Hawkins and Troy Edwards, you're really playing with the deck stacked against you. And oh, by the way, Bettis and Bruener were useless as pass catchers.

RG3 needs to be coached up. The question is not about his intelligence but his ego: is he humble enough to learn. Going to the **** Stains because he insists on being a starter tells me the answer is no. You're going to the worst organization in football, which plays in the best division in football. You're asking to get your *** waxed.

 

[SteelerAl]

To be fair, the first coach never wanted to draft him in the first place.

But then he went on to win ROY...

False. As dysfunctional as the 'Skins may be at times, they didn't make an ultra-ultra expensive trade to acquire a QB that their head coach (with 2 Super Bowls rings) didn't want. Things fell apart for Shanny and RGIII after his rookie year (when he injured his knee in a playoff game when he probably shouldn't have been allowed out there).

 

[Steel Vanguard]

False. As dysfunctional as the 'Skins may be at times, they didn't make an ultra-ultra expensive trade to acquire a QB that their head coach (with 2 Super Bowls rings) didn't want. Things fell apart for Shanny and RGIII after his rookie year (when he injured his knee in a playoff game when he probably shouldn't have been allowed out there).

Factually untrue. Shanny has said many times, in many places, that he DID NOT WANT RG3.