Bryant skips drug test; facing full season suspension

[jitter77]

Kudos to Tomlin / Colbert (or Tombert) for planning for this by drafting Sammy Coates. Wouldn't it be GREAT if Coates makes us forget about Martavis?

P.S. Martavis is Chris Henry 2.0. Someone pointed out that they look alike.

I think bryant is better than henry. Bryant is amazing with the ball in his hands.. I think at this point i would keep bryant. He does not seem like he is out partying, but has some issues that were ignored. He might be like ricky Williams

 

[TDX27]

Suspension is minimum of one year. Still just pisses me off. And so many out there say marijuana isn't addicting and isn't a threat. That is BS and it should never be legalized. Bryant is a total bust. I am not sure I even want them to give him another chance. He has had multiple chances to be a Steeler and obviously does not want it. If Coates plays well this year, sign Wheaton and cut Bryant. I can also see them taking a WR in the 6th or 7th round this year.

 

[POP]

Funny this depression has never cropped up during the past two football seasons, and forced him to not show up for a game, or for practice, or for a meeting, etc, etc. He may have depression, but that's just a cover up, he's supposed to check into a rehab clinic as early as of today, but do you go to rehab for depression? He's had trouble with this since high school and can't stop it's a simple as that.
It's not up to the Steelers to help him, I keep hearing fans say they can't cut him, they should help him, why? The dude got a free education, has made good money while here, they've given him the means ($) to get help, something almost all people with an addiction problem don't have.

Those are all my points, as well. Look, if he is TRULY clinically depressed, I feel for him. But if he is just another liar looking for excuses to stay on the weed, then I have no compassion. I think his biggest problem is he just not too bright.

Anyone with a brain would know to lay off the lettuce until you make your millions and then, if you want, enjoy it after your career.

Just like the liars who claim they NEVER TOOK PEDs ON PURPOSE! (and do so with total conviction, only to admit later that they lied).



Stayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy oooffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff the weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddd ddd!

And it is not addictive. You can just quit. And you have no withdrawals from going off. None.

 

[POP]

Suspension is minimum of one year. Still just pisses me off. And so many out there say marijuana isn't addicting and isn't a threat. That is BS and it should never be legalized. Bryant is a total bust. I am not sure I even want them to give him another chance. He has had multiple chances to be a Steeler and obviously does not want it. If Coates plays well this year, sign Wheaton and cut Bryant. I can also see them taking a WR in the 6th or 7th round this year.

 

[hcmd]

Think they keep him. He is dirt cheap on 4th round rookie contract. If, and a huge IF... in a year and change he is changed. Steelers still have a gem. If not, no biggie money wise to part ways, I.E. a win win situation.

 

[slashsteel]

I think he won't play another down for the Steelers. The more I think of it the more I feel we have seen the last of him in Black N Gold.

 

[POP]

Suspension is minimum of one year. Still just pisses me off. And so many out there say marijuana isn't addicting and isn't a threat. That is BS and it should never be legalized. Bryant is a total bust. I am not sure I even want them to give him another chance. He has had multiple chances to be a Steeler and obviously does not want it. If Coates plays well this year, sign Wheaton and cut Bryant. I can also see them taking a WR in the 6th or 7th round this year.

So weed should never be legal but you think it's OK that booze is? Which is more dangerous?

http://www.medicaldaily.com/marijua...-drugs-have-physical-and-mental-health-332094

 

[POP]

I think he won't play another down for the Steelers. The more I think of it the more I feel we have seen the last of him in Black N Gold.

Well, if they want to be consistent, they shipped off Holmes for a warm 6-pack after multiple weed events. So, unless they changed their position on players hitting weed, he should be cut already. If not, their public stance with Holmes and weed has now changed. MB has also had MULTIPLE weed events, so, if they are consistent, they'd cut him. If not, then how can they explain their reaction to Holmes weed use? To me, if they don't cut MB it proves moving Holmes had more to do with his age and contract than puffing.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Hes going the route of Josh Gordon, and the browns. I don't think they want to be held in that light (the steelers org). Anything new on this?

 

[ark steel]

Well, if they want to be consistent, they shipped off Holmes for a warm 6-pack after multiple weed events. So, unless they changed their position on players hitting weed, he should be cut already. If not, their public stance with Holmes and weed has now changed. MB has also had MULTIPLE weed events, so, if they are consistent, they'd cut him. If not, then how can they explain their reaction to Holmes weed use? To me, if they don't cut MB it proves moving Holmes had more to do with his age and contract than puffing.

It could be the weed and the contract. I would think it cost them zero to keep MB on the roster. I don't remember what Holmes' cap hits might have been, but I think MB's will be very low or zero if he is not one of the top 53 paid. If they are on suspension, do their cap hit's count against you? I'd think they do.

 

[oneforthebus]

I'm sure every guy who's ever tested positive for pot can come up with some sad story as to why he did it. Physical pain being not the least of which and it is experienced by every single NFL player. It's really not relevant. There are rules, you want to play, you follow the rules.

 

[insaniti]

It could be the weed and the contract. I would think it cost them zero to keep MB on the roster. I don't remember what Holmes' cap hits might have been, but I think MB's will be very low or zero if he is not one of the top 53 paid. If they are on suspension, do their cap hit's count against you? I'd think they do.

It's all about money. Holmes signed a 5 year deal worth 8.11 million in 2006, he just finished his 4th year of that contract, and had a career year. He was looking for an extension and he was looking for big money. He then got popped for weed and was hit with a 4 game suspension. You don't pay big money to a receiver that is one test away from a year long suspension. With Bryant, he just finished his second year of a 4 year deal worth 2.7 mil. He still has two years left on that deal, and his cap hits are 700k and 800k. By being suspended for the year, he does not accrue a season, and is therefore still under contract with the Steelers for those two remaining years UPON return (IF he's reinstated). Cutting him saves no money, you hold on to his rights, see if he comes back.

If he is reinstated, that's two years of a top flight talent at less than 1m per year. If he's suspended again, you still don't lose anything, and we've already made contingency plans in case something like this were to happen (Coates, Green). But if he's available in a year, he only adds more to the offense that's already explosive even WITHOUT Bryant.

 

[wig]

Like I said, he has an addiction problem. Too many people are fooling themselves that pot is completely harmless. I'm sure you WANT it to be harmless. And if you use it reasonably it can be harmless enough, but like alcohol, pot can be very very harmful.

I see no reason to cut Bryant. I'm disappointed too. I made a nasty post earlier. I've said some things about how dumb he is, but ultimately the kid has a serious drug addiction. And what you have to do, what HE has to do is wrap the head around that fact. This is a full blown drug addiction issue. Fortunately, drug addiction CAN be treated. Honest it can. Alcoholics can commit to turning away from alcohol one day at a time for the rest of their lives. So can people with drug addictions. It isn't easy but it can certainly be done if those people feel strongly enough that it's important to do so.

The question is, does Martavis Bryant truly believe "pot is a big deal?"

 

[POP]

It could be the weed and the contract. I would think it cost them zero to keep MB on the roster. I don't remember what Holmes' cap hits might have been, but I think MB's will be very low or zero if he is not one of the top 53 paid. If they are on suspension, do their cap hit's count against you? I'd think they do.

Yes, that all comes into play, but if you bought the Rooneys' vibe when they got rid of Holmes, it was if they were taking the "moral" high ground (it happened at the same time as Ben's misadventures so they may have thought they needed to send a message that they were not OK with immoral acts from their players).

 

[stillwright]

Like I said, he has an addiction problem. Too many people are fooling themselves that pot is completely harmless. I'm sure you WANT it to be harmless. And if you use it reasonably it can be harmless enough, but like alcohol, pot can be very very harmful.

I see no reason to cut Bryant. I'm disappointed too. I made a nasty post earlier. I've said some things about how dumb he is, but ultimately the kid has a serious drug addiction. And what you have to do, what HE has to do is wrap the head around that fact. This is a full blown drug addiction issue. Fortunately, drug addiction CAN be treated. Honest it can. Alcoholics can commit to turning away from alcohol one day at a time for the rest of their lives. So can people with drug addictions. It isn't easy but it can certainly be done if those people feel strongly enough that it's important to do so.

The question is, does Martavis Bryant truly believe "pot is a big deal?"

Or he has a major depression issue and uses pot to cope with it. So if he deals with the depression issue it might just take care of the other issue.

 

[swal75]

Appeal was dropped.

 

[Stainless]

He probably made that one catch because his hands were so sticky. I'm kinda surprised he ever dropped a pass.

 

[diver]

I don't want the Rooney's taking the moral high ground. I want then to do what is best for the football team and will win them the most games. If that is keeping Bryant, fine. If not, fine. Winning games is what matters. Does anybody look at the NFL anymore as some beacon of morality? I would think not. I think in this age there are very few things that are looked at that way anymore. So let's just knock it off. The Steelers are in the business to win. I don't need them to be moral leaders. I'll do that on my own.

 

[deljzc]

I wouldn't cut him, but that's me.

I was in favor of keeping Holmes back in 2010 too. No contract extension mind you, but just keep him for that last year of his contract (which was pretty cheap). I said then that the Holmes decision had as much to do with what was happening with Roethlisberger and Holmes was used somewhat as a scapegoat by the organization to prove they had "some moral fiber", but whatever. That was a long time ago.

It's 6 years later and the league is somewhat fighting a growing public opinion that marijuana offenses are stupid so I think they could convince themselves to not maintain the same policy as they did with Holmes.

I'm glad he dropped the appeal. I hope he finds a way to stop being stupid and making bad choices. If that's rehab or therapy or antidepressants, get busy and get better. But I'm not really in the mood for "forgiveness". He let the team and organization down A LOT with his selfishness and refusal to get help the first time. No one defending him seems to want to acknowledge he had an opportunity to get help 10 months ago after his FIRST suspension. For most normal people, you'd think that would be enough of a kick in the pants to make some life changes.

He ****** up big time and has no one to blame but himself.

Now the organization needs to make some tough choices about themselves. They have no obligation about anything else.

 

[warriors42]

Whoever says weed is addicting has probably never smoked a joint in their life. I smoked weed like I was hanging with Willie and snoop at the same time and we were in a contest to see who could smoke the most weed EVER, I did this for about ten years. One day my wife comes to me and says I want to have a baby, BUT I want that **** out of your system first, my wife being the most important thing in my life asked me to stop smoking grass, I put that **** down that day and didn't touch it again until all my kids were grown and gone. Smoked it a couple times and haven't smoked since.

So if you can't stop smoking grass either A) you don't want to or B) you are one simple minded weak *** selfish *****, you can decide which one.

 

[Litos]

Whoever says weed is addicting has probably never smoked a joint in their life. I smoked weed like I was hanging with Willie and snoop at the same time and we were in a contest to see who could smoke the most weed EVER, I did this for about ten years. One day my wife comes to me and says I want to have a baby, BUT I want that **** out of your system first, my wife being the most important thing in my life asked me to stop smoking grass, I put that **** down that day and didn't touch it again until all my kids were grown and gone. Smoked it a couple times and haven't smoked since.

So if you can't stop smoking grass either A) you don't want to or B) you are one simple minded weak *** selfish *****, you can decide which one.

can it be a natural condition in human's DNA that define addictiveness? I have no problem to stop drinking, or smoking a joint (being at least two years since and don't feel any cravings when someone close does it) but maybe is different for other people?

 

[warriors42]

can it be a natural condition in human's DNA that define addictiveness? I have no problem to stop drinking, or smoking a joint (being at least two years since and don't feel any cravings when someone close does it) but maybe is different for other people?

I have had a lot of science classes lately. lots of biology and chemistry, this subject has come up on a lot of occasions and the overall consensus is that THC is not habit forming, now this doesn't mean that smoking weed can't become a habit, but there is no known chemical in weed that will give you cravings for more weed or withdraws.

Almost every science teacher I have had in the last four years thinks weed should be legal, and that alcohol and tobacco are way much more dangerous.

 

[insaniti]

Even if weed is legalized, it doesn't change the rules of employers. They aren't suddenly going to say "oh, it's legal? Smoke as much as you want". Doesn't matter of its legal or not, it's against the rules.

Also, the arguing over weed being addictive or not... ANYTHING can become addicting. Video games can become addicting. Working out can become addicting. Jerking off can become addicting. Saying weed can't be, is just stoner talk...

 

[oneforthebus]

There's psychological addiction, and physical dependence. I think physical dependence is defined by physical withdrawal symptoms. Apparently withdrawal from heroin and opiates is physically a nightmare, and withdrawal from alcohol dependence can actually kill you. Caffeine and nicotine withdrawal have definite physical symptoms. I've never heard of any kind of physical withdrawal symptoms from pot...that doesn't mean there can't be a powerful psychological addiction.

Obviously something like hoarding or gambling can't have physical withdrawal symptoms, that doesn't mean there's not a powerful psychological addiction.

 

[Tibs]

It's not going to be easy to sign Andre Holmes, if they're even interested.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A source says that teams in the mix for Raiders free-agent WR Andre Holmes are <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash">#Vikings</a>, Raiders, Lions, Bengals and Eagles.</p>— Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) <a href="https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/707643902581481472">March 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Damn, Raiders re-signed him. Too bad...



Andre Holmes - WR - Raiders
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6954/andre-holmes

Raiders re-signed Andre Holmes to a one-year contract "worth up to" $3 million.
The deal includes $1 million fully guaranteed. It is an extremely disappointing outcome for Holmes, who played just 335 snaps on offense last season and is likely ticketed for a similar role behind Amari Cooper, Michael Crabtree and Seth Roberts. Once a promising hold in Dynasty formats, Holmes has little value outside of the deepest formats.